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ironman#816
01/24/2007, 02:29 PM
Need Help with my 2000 Ironman identity. The Ironman was available only on the Victory White color and Isuzu build only 96 of them in 2000 but only few was Ironman edition VX's. Is any one knows how many of the editions was build in 2000?

Anita
01/24/2007, 02:51 PM
Johnnyapollo has the list of exported VX's (to the US) on his site:
http://www.wildtoys.com/Vehicross/history.asp

etlsport
01/24/2007, 02:58 PM
im pretty sure that all victory white VXs are ironmans... many owners have chosen to remove the ironman badges.. but from the factory i believe the only way to get a white vx is to get the ironman (or the elusive pearl white... but thats a different story)

ironman#816
01/24/2007, 03:03 PM
I seen couple of white ones in the past and they are not Ironman edition

Triathlete
01/24/2007, 03:08 PM
I seen couple of white ones in the past and they are not Ironman edition

De-badged Ironmans :yesy: :yesgray: :yesg:
Look at the front seats...should say Ironman on them.

creeg
01/24/2007, 03:36 PM
Yeah, its pretty easy to remove the outside badges. Its the stitched "Ironman" logo that is in the front seats that give it away.

PHO2GR4
01/24/2007, 03:44 PM
For the record:

1) All Ironman VXs are white
2) All White VXs are Ironman
3) A white VX is an Ironman Edition, and an Ironman Edition VX is white.

No white VXs are non-Ironman. No Ironman Editions are non-white. If it says "Ironman", it's white, and if it's white, it may or may not say Ironman on the outside, but it definitely should say Ironman on the seat, unless the seats were changed out at some point...but it's still technically an Ironman.

To sum up: Ironman = white, and white = Ironman.

Please let me know if you have any questions. But if the questions are about the color of the Ironman Edition, I'll tell you upfront: it's white.

PS: And if it's white, it's the Ironman Edition. In case I wasn't clear before.

cyronman
01/24/2007, 04:00 PM
What if it's white, without Ironman badges, but has Ironman floormats??
Is that an Ironman VX?
:p

etlsport
01/24/2007, 04:13 PM
not all ironmans are still white though.... look at spazz's

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3154/DSC04429.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3154/DSC04430.JPG

PHO2GR4
01/24/2007, 04:34 PM
Dang...I should've been more clear!

All Ironman VXs BEGAN life Victory White.

They may have been sprayed later...

And even the debadged ironman VXs with Ironman floormats should also have the Ironman seats.

johnnyapollo
01/24/2007, 04:49 PM
Actually some Ironman editions don't have the stitched seats - guess they ran out at the factory or something. I've seen many variations but I believe the intent was for all White VXes sold in the US to be Ironman editions. Another exception are those in white sold in Japan - there is a slight difference in the white used if I'm not mistaken (not called Victory White and with a different stock number so it probably has a different paint formula).

-- John

VehiGAZ
01/24/2007, 06:08 PM
Strangely enough, my 1999 Astral Silver VX shows up as "Isuzu Vehicross/Ironman" on my insurance card.

What say you to that, PHO2GR4?!

k4tmc
01/24/2007, 07:13 PM
Well, if the Ironman edition had a higher SRP, then your insurance agent was probably using that value to set your insurance rate at the max for any variation on the Vehicross type vehicle.

Henry

PHO2GR4
01/24/2007, 09:31 PM
Just means your insurance company was covering all of their legal bases, as usual. Or that they didn't know the difference...

...like WE all do, right? I mean, regarding Ironman = white, and white = Ironman?

uncle_asa
01/25/2007, 01:07 AM
For the record:

1) All Ironman VXs are white
2) All White VXs are Ironman
3) A white VX is an Ironman Edition, and an Ironman Edition VX is white.

I'm pretty sure I saw victory white VX on autotrader with standard badges and without Ironman badges where they expect to be (including seats!). So, I think there are few non-Ironman white VXs around.

Anyway, the best Ironman is Ironman repainted into Proton :-)

XCross69
01/25/2007, 06:28 AM
I had an Ironman, could tell where the decals where when I got it and the seats did NOT say IRONMAN!

ironman#816
01/25/2007, 08:21 AM
I know i seen my self in person couple white ones with no badges or seat stitching i got Ironman edition my self and i know where to look and how its looks like, i don't see any one in the right mind to pay extra $1000 for Ironman edition and to go and remove all the badges and replace the seats and so on it just doesn't make any sense

ironman#816
01/25/2007, 08:32 AM
So i guess no one really knows the real count of the Ironman editions made and by installing the seats and stickers on your VX is not making it real Ironman (clone) unless you have original window sticker or docs to prove it, if any one know real facts Please let me know and try not to guess Thank you

XCross69
01/25/2007, 09:22 AM
Yeah, I personally removed most of the badges that were on mine. I had a previous post stating that my seats did not say IRONMAN on them and I found that odd. Sure the seats could have been replaced before I bought it but I don't think they were...who knows?

Anita
01/25/2007, 09:38 AM
From watching the various VX forums through the years, a great number of Ironmans were debadged early in life. I've seen here several ironman owners who have purchased regular emblems from others' discards. I have never seen nor heard of a white VX purchased new in the U.S. that was not an Ironman edition, except for the Pearl.

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 09:47 AM
What she said.

Regardless of whether or not a previous owner debadged or de-deated, the Victory Whites were all sold originally in the USA as "Ironman".

They came stock with the roofracks and special floor mats and seats. Otherwise, they are the same as the other colors.

Zorak
01/25/2007, 09:50 AM
According to an article on edmunds.com about the VX, Isuzu planned for 20% of its 2000 MY production to be Ironmans. Assuming they adhered to that plan, most, if not all, of the 96 Victory White models built that year would have been Ironmans, as 20% of the total production of 803 would have been almost twice that number.

If you are only interested in "real facts" maybe you should contact Isuzu...

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 10:06 AM
Zorak has a good point...checking the source.

Westlund Isuzu and Scarff Isuzu in Washington both agree that all Victory Whites sold in the USA were originally intended as the "Ironman Edition", although nobody seems to know why there was a need for such a name or edition.

I owned one of the first-year USA Ironman VXs...a Victory White '99. I purchased it from Bellevue Isuzu, in Bellevue, WA...where they also informed me that white = Ironman and Ironman = white.

Anything else is speculation. Plus, it doesn't really matter, since many of these extra-cost Ironman editions were indeed immediately debadged. Those decals were sort of over-the-top. What, is every driver claiming to be a winner...or even just a participant...of the Ironman Triathlon?

Anita
01/25/2007, 10:19 AM
[QUOTE=PHO2GR4]Zorak has a good point...checking the source.

Westlund Isuzu and Scarff Isuzu in Washington both agree that all Victory Whites sold in the USA were originally intended as the "Ironman Edition", although nobody seems to know why there was a need for such a name or edition.
QUOTE]

Isuzu Announces Title Sponsorship of Ironman Triathlon Series
CERRITOS, Calif.--June 24, 1999--American Isuzu Motors Inc. has announced that it has come to an agreement with the World Triathlon Corporation to expand its involvement with the Ironman Triathlon World Championship and the Ironman series of events through the year 2002.
The multi-faceted, multi-year agreement has Isuzu serving as the Presenting Sponsor of the Ironman Triathlon World Championship event held each year in Kona, Hawaii. In addition, Isuzu will also be the Title Sponsor of three U.S. qualifying events each year.
"Isuzu's corporate philosophy is `Go farther,'" said Bob Reilly, senior vice president, COO, SUV.
"We launched our `Life is too big for cars' campaign to demonstrate that we are truck specialists. Likewise, our sponsorship of the Ironman Triathlon events are the perfect match because we think it represents the strength, durability and performance of our vehicles as well as the personal attitude of the people who purchase and drive them. This race truly illustrates the character and qualities we strive to put into everything we do," concluded Reilly.
"We're excited our involvement will carry into the next millennium."

Building on last year's participation as the Official Vehicle Sponsor, the new sponsorship agreement will have Isuzu's participation kicking off with the Isuzu Ironman USA Lake Placid qualifying event Aug. 15, 1999. Isuzu Ironman Florida is scheduled to take place Nov. 6, 1999, and a third event to be announced.
Isuzu will present a strong presence throughout the events via on-site signage, vehicle displays at each location, athlete-targeted advertising, and the Isuzu company logo on all event-related collateral materials and event merchandise.
NBC's coverage of last year's Championship in Kona, Hawaii, drew an estimated 50 million television viewers. This year's event is expected to draw even more viewers. The 1999 Championship broadcast will be tagged "Ironman Triathlon Presented by Isuzu" and will air Nov. 14 on NBC, with a re-airing to be broadcast during the spring or summer.
The television package also includes four ESPN showings of the Ironman qualifying events. The ESPN broadcast dates are still undetermined but will also include re-airings of the events.
To commemorate sponsorship of these prestigious events, Isuzu will bring to market an expanded lineup of special Ironman Edition sport-utility vehicles. Isuzu launched an Ironman edition VehiCROSS as part of last year's Official Vehicle Sponsorship, and this year's expanded sponsorship will add Ironman editions of both the Rodeo and Amigo sport-utility vehicles.
An Ironman VehiCROSS will serve as the lead vehicle for the event, with various Ironman vehicles serving throughout the event.
In addition, Isuzu will provide a number of Isuzu vehicles as awards to the top finishing participants. An Isuzu VehiCROSS will once again serve as the "Go farther" award for the athlete selected as most representing the "Go Farther" spirit. The top male and female athletes will also receive an Isuzu vehicle for one year.

uncle_asa
01/25/2007, 10:26 AM
What she said.

Regardless of whether or not a previous owner debadged or de-deated, the Victory Whites were all sold originally in the USA as "Ironman".

They came stock with the roofracks and special floor mats and seats. Otherwise, they are the same as the other colors.
They also had Sony Xplod music in stock.

Anita
01/25/2007, 10:35 AM
They also had Sony Xplod music in stock.

Thats a new one on me. VX's all started with the same stock radio/cd equipment - at least the ones imported to the U.S.

etlsport
01/25/2007, 10:47 AM
i have heard/read that 2000 ironmans came with sony xplode speakers and badges... never seen it though

Zorak
01/25/2007, 10:48 AM
Thats a new one on me. VX's all started with the same stock radio/cd equipment - at least the ones imported to the U.S.

It was just the speakers and only on the 2000 models, according to the below which is from johnnyapollo's site, www.wildtoys.com/vehicross (which is a great source of VX info)


Ironman Edition:
Victory White Paint
Hood Insert Decal
Side Pillar Decals
Rear Hatch Decal
Factory Yakima Roof racks
Embossed Ironman Seats
Embroidered Ironman Floor Mats
Sony Xplod speakers with a Sony Xplod decal above the Ironman decal on the sides only on 2000 models

JHarris1385
01/25/2007, 11:02 AM
Thats the reason I opted for a 2000 Ironman. Came with an upgraded stereo system.

Zorak
01/25/2007, 11:20 AM
Thats the reason I opted for a 2000 Ironman. Came with an upgraded stereo system.

Which seems to have been replaced with aftermarket system, so the advantage is??? :confused:

Triathlete
01/25/2007, 11:43 AM
Those decals were sort of over-the-top. What, is every driver claiming to be a winner...or even just a participant...of the Ironman Triathlon?

What? Your not? ;Dy;





































I guess all you Ironman owners will just have to give me your VX's! :yesy:

JHarris1385
01/25/2007, 11:46 AM
When I was looking for my VX I was strictly looking for a 2000 IronMan under 50K. Found one but later found out that the stereo was upgraded. So I lucked out.

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 01:09 PM
Which seems to have been replaced with aftermarket system, so the advantage is??? :confused:

BWAAAA-ha ha!

Sorry, that just seemed funny. ;)

Hey, I didn't know that bit of Ironman trivia...the upgraded speakers in the 2000. Sony's XPlode line was black-and-red anyway, so that's a good fit! Pretty cool.

The stock '99 Ironman stereo worked and sounded pretty good to me, but I DID end up adding an amp and a subwoofer later. It sounded a bajillion times better after that!

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 01:11 PM
When I was looking for my VX I was strictly looking for a 2000 IronMan under 50K. Found one but later found out that the stereo was upgraded. So I lucked out.

JHarris, you've been doing a lot of upgrades on your Ironman. Do you have any RECENT recent photos showing your VX's current status? You've actually been one of the people on this forum motivating me to get MY ride in shape!

JHarris1385
01/25/2007, 01:25 PM
Not really not since the lift/tires/rims. I need to take some good ones. I seems like every weekend I am doing something to it.

I got the grill badge in the mail yesterday. Got a chrome liscense plate in the mail today.
Put mock- chrome door sills on sunday, as well as the passenger seat extensioner. (GREAT MOD)
I have yet to place the ebay headrest-dashboard emblems on either.
As well as put the scan-guage in a permament spot.


I swear Ill take pictures soon. Honestly Ill try Sunday. And I need to post my stock 18's for sale too.

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 01:31 PM
What? Your not? ;Dy;

I guess all you Ironman owners will just have to give me your VX's! :yesy:

Yeah, Billy, I'm the ANTI-Triathlete! The nega-triathlete! That's why I now drive an Ebony! :cool:

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 01:33 PM
Not really not since the lift/tires/rims. I need to take some good ones. I seems like every weekend I am doing something to it.


I still think your wheels are friggen' AWESOME for an Ironman. I can't imagine any other design looking better. It's way nicer than the stock wheels.

JHarris1385
01/25/2007, 01:39 PM
The chrome 20''s or the Pro-Comp's? Thanks.

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 02:46 PM
I looked at your gallery and saw the white-on-black wheels...are those the Pro-Comps?

JHarris1385
01/25/2007, 03:04 PM
Yes Pro-Comp Extreme Series.

PHO2GR4
01/25/2007, 03:59 PM
That's what I thought. Out of the millions of options, YOU chose WISELY.

:cool:

johnnyapollo
01/25/2007, 05:28 PM
Isuzu also did an Ironman show VX that they would set up at events:

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DetroitAutoShow.jpg
This image is from the Detroit Auto Show - wonder what happened to that one? Appears to be a 2000 model (chrome wheels) so probably the 1999 Detroit show.

-- John

Cyrk
01/25/2007, 05:42 PM
Some other shots from one of the first showings of the Ironman with white borbets CW3's
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/39ironman5.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/39ironman5.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/39ironman4.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/39ironman4.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/39ironman3.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/39ironman3.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/39ironman2.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/39ironman2.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/39ironman1.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/39ironman1.jpg)

JHarris1385
01/25/2007, 05:43 PM
Thanks. I took me a long time to find something I really like and I got them for $121 a piece.

I swear everyone on my blog about what rims should I get told me they would not fit, someone even told me they would stick out 4.5 inches with the backspacking it had. But they are practically flush.

Thanks for the complements. I am also thinking about powdercoating a steel wheel white as well.

ironman#816
01/25/2007, 09:20 PM
That's mine VX Ironman with large logo and white wheels you got in the photo. Wow where did you get this photo?

johnnyapollo
01/26/2007, 12:04 PM
Sounds like you got the promo VX - you have any pics yet?

-- John

JHarris1385
01/26/2007, 12:40 PM
How would you have that IronMan VX? That one was one of the first promo's yours is stated at being a 2000. Sounds to me like the promo would have been a 99.

ironman#816
01/26/2007, 11:35 PM
This is 2000 Ironman has been build in June of 99 i bout it in April of 2001 brand new with 56 mi on the odometer it has been siting for more then a year in the dealer show room with all the promo material stuffed inside the trunk.

Cyrk
01/27/2007, 05:54 AM
What promo stuff do you have, want to sell any of it?

I can remember where I found the photos it was from a site that had auto show photos a while ago.

ironman#816
01/30/2007, 07:28 PM
sorry i like to keep all the promo staff that came with the car i had it for six years now