Autopia Lighting Xenon White Fog Light Kit

[Pepino]

Has anyone bought these fog lights? im thinking about getting them but dont know how hard are they to install or if i will have to take them to a shop to get them installed any opinions?

[Ldub]

Has anyone bought these fog lights? im thinking about getting them but dont know how hard are they to install or if i will have to take them to a shop to get them installed any opinions?

Maybe post a link so we can see what you're talking about?:thumbup:

[Pepino]

here is the link sorry!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ISUZU-VEHICROSS-FOG-LIGHTS-vehi-cross-lamps-lamp-hid-b_W0QQitemZ180210533460QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180 210533460

[Ldub]

If you do get them, you'll need to search the forums for Scotts(Moncha) write up on how he installed his Hella Micros.
The same method of bracket modification could be used with these.:_wrench:

[MSHardeman]

Pepino,

I installed some similar lights a while ago, but of course I didn't take any pictures. I fabricated some brackets out of some aluminum flat bar that I bent into a "U" shape, painted black, and bolted to the top of the turn signal housing like Moncha outlines in his Hella install. The lights I installed had an "angel eye" ring and to get them to fit in correctly I had to cut the lip that the stock running lights seat into out. It was really a pretty easy install. If you need me to I might be able to get some pictures of the whole set up.

[BeeVenom]

Pepino,
I purchased from autopia since their advertisement stated they were for the VX. Unfortunately, when they arrived they turned out to be too big for the original holes in the front bumper cover. I don't want to do any cutting since i want to keep everything as it came from the factory.
I did contact them and they did an exchage for 2.75-inch units with no additional charges other than my cost to return the other ones. I have not tried to install yet, but will do soon.
If you get any, get the 2.75" units since they are the smallest ones they make and i'm pretty sure they should work OK.
I can let you know how it goes,
Scott

[Pepino]

do the 2.75" units come with the halo around?

[BeeVenom]

Yes, exactly what i got. Can't wait to see them working.
If you do order them make sure you put a note in your order request stating "include Halo please" otherwise they won't include the right lites.
Scott

[Dumke]

Pepino,

I installed some similar lights a while ago, but of course I didn't take any pictures. I fabricated some brackets out of some aluminum flat bar that I bent into a "U" shape, painted black, and bolted to the top of the turn signal housing like Moncha outlines in his Hella install. The lights I installed had an "angel eye" ring and to get them to fit in correctly I had to cut the lip that the stock running lights seat into out. It was really a pretty easy install. If you need me to I might be able to get some pictures of the whole set up.

Any chance you could take some pictures of the outcome. I know there was another with angel eye lights and was thinking of same. Either post a picture or two on your profile or on your other post which is found here:

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=11213&highlight=angel+eye


... Thanks

[MSHardeman]

Dumke,

I will take some pictures this weekend and post them up. I'll have to do a quick wash down of the front end as it has been snowing here in Colorado and my baby is absolutely CRUMMY.
I still haven't found a gasket material to put around the lights to really seat them into the opening in the front cladding, but they really don't look too bad right now. I have the blue angel eye, and it looks really cool at night, but I keep waiting for the cops to pull me over.
As I said earlier; to get them in I had to cut the mounting flange for the stock lights out, so now I can't go back unless I get a new front cladding.

Mark

[Dumke]

Dumke,

I will take some pictures this weekend and post them up. I'll have to do a quick wash down of the front end as it has been snowing here in Colorado and my baby is absolutely CRUMMY.
I still haven't found a gasket material to put around the lights to really seat them into the opening in the front cladding, but they really don't look too bad right now. I have the blue angel eye, and it looks really cool at night, but I keep waiting for the cops to pull me over.
As I said earlier; to get them in I had to cut the mounting flange for the stock lights out, so now I can't go back unless I get a new front cladding.

Mark



OK asking for more can I get a nigth and day pic plz :) course night with lighst on :p . As for the cops issue. And someone that knows more can chim in and not sure if laws different in different areas but, a patrol cop friend here in frt worth said its a big misconception<sp> that you cant have lighst on your car. He has even gone to his cop buddies who have writen tickets. he said per the book it doesnt matter what lighst you have you just cant have flashing blue or red lights. You can have solid, or flashing lights of other colors just not those two. We had a long extensive convo about it but I am sure someone will straighten me out here or give more insight.

[MSHardeman]

Dumke,

Got to take some pictures of the angel eyes this weekend so take a look at the pictures below. It was snowing so there may be some flakes in the way, but I think you can get the picture. The angle eyes themselves are hooked up to the wiring for the old running lights, so they come on with the marker lights. I suppose that I could have hooked them up to a switch so they could come on separately, but I didn't. The fog lights ARE hooked up to a factory fog light switch in the dash (didn't take a picture of that), and work fairly well. I still need to aim them a little better, but for now they light up the road ahead pretty well.

Hope this helps.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Angel_Eyes_01.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Angel_Eyes_01.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Angel_Eyes_03.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Angel_Eyes_03.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Angel_Eyes_06.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Angel_Eyes_06.jpg)http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Angel_Eyes_08.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Angel_Eyes_08.jpg)

[Dumke]

Looks really good.

[Pepino]

was it hard to install them were the instructions good? because i have no idea how to change anything electric im not good with wires or anythig so before i buy them i want to know if it was easy

[MSHardeman]

Pepino,

I'm not terribly electrically inclined either, but the install wasn't too bad. The ones that I bought where actually from AutoX (I think) and the instructions where a little cartoonish and vague but relatively easy to follow. If you install per the instructions it shouldn't be a big deal, but I complicated mine by also installing Moncha's auxiliary fuse box and hooking the whole kit and kaboodle to an Isuzu fog light switch. I figure if I can get through it, then you should be just fine. Just take your time and try to diagram it out first because I know that helped me.

Mark

[mdwyer]

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Angel_Eyes_06.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Angel_Eyes_06.jpg)

I'm ambivalent about the lights...

but I *like* that picture... Big ol' meaty tires... you can practically hear it growl. :)

[BeeVenom]

Pepino,
If you do get the 'autopia' lites remember the the "advertised" ones for the VX are too big and do necessitate much cutting. Go smaller. I'll install my 2.75" units when weather gets warmer.
Scott

[So-CalVX]

that only the 2.75" lights will fit without any cutting? I have been planning on going projection in those little holes there, even had some nice '92-'95 civic fog lights in mind... So, is 3" not going to fit without "customizing" my bumper?

[MSHardeman]

So-Cal,

Check out Moncha's Hella Micro D fog light installation:

http://www.vehicross.info/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=2&highlight=hella+micro+d

I didn't see where he talks about altering the bumper, so these might work without any modifications (and they are sort of projection beams).

[Ascinder]

Do you have a part number for the correct size with the halos, maybe somewhere off of either the packaging or an invoice?

[MSHardeman]

Ascinder,

I still have the box that the lights came in, so I will take a picture of it tonight and post it tomorrow.

[MSHardeman]

See the pictures below for the front and back of the box. I haven't heard of the manufacturer before, so I'm guessing that they are some generic brand. The wiring diagram on the back of the box are the only instructions that came with the lights. Little bit of thinking, little bit of trial and error, and a little bit of asking around on the forum here and they went in just fine.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Type_X_Lights_Front.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Type_X_Lights_Front.jpg)
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Type_X_Lights_Back.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Type_X_Lights_Back.jpg)

[VX4EJR]

Hey Mark (MSHardeman), I know this is an old post but just wanted to ask (if you even remember) a question...the fog lights you installed here you said you wired to an Isuzu fog light switch in the dash...how did you run wiring from the lights to the dash? Did you somehow use the existing fog light wiring already there and how did you pick into it before the steering column light switch already there? Or, did you run new separate wiring from the lights to the inside switch through the firewall?
Greatly appreciate the info, or from anyone who has done this...thanks!!
Elliott

[MSHardeman]

VX4EGR, I'm trying to remember what I did for this, so if this gets to be a rambling post it's because I'm "talking" it out to myself as I go. The fog lights that I installed had a blue LED angel eye ring around them and from what I can remember, I wired those into the existing marker light wiring so that they come on with the running lights. The actual fog light part came with a wiring harness that I ran in the engine bay, to an auxillary fuse box (per Moncha's write up) for power, and then ran into the cabin, through the firewall, and then hooked that up to a stock Isuzu fog light switch (again per Moncha's write up). You can get the fog light switch out of a Honda Passport, or a Trooper (can't remember which years), or call Merlin and order a new one from him. I think I got my switch from Merlin, but I did clip the switch pigtail out of a Honda Passport that I found in a salvage yard. I did have to add one wire to the pigtail to make it compatible with the switch, but that was easier than creating a pigtail from scratch.

If you would like I can hunt down Moncha's write ups for you to go from. I know they helped me a lot.

Hope that helps. If you need any more info let me know.

[VX4EJR]

MSHardeman, thank you for the info! What you wrote makes sense and is what I thought. I'm going through options for changing the fog lights but always wondered if it is even possible to use one of those Isuzu fog light push button switches inside but somewhere somehow tap into the wiring that is already there which is controled by the steering column light switch. In other words, normally when you flip that steering column switch, it first turns on marker and stock fog lights, then another turn adds your headlights. So what I'm thinking is somehow taking the fog light wiring out of that mix and running it to a separate Isuzu fog light switch added to the dash....then just adding a new/different fog light assembly to the bumper outside...thus having a separate switch controlling the fog lights, without having to run separate wiring through the engine bay and firewall to do that. Hopefully not confusing but perhaps someone here had either looked into it or done it with success?

[etlsport]

MSHardeman, thank you for the info! What you wrote makes sense and is what I thought. I'm going through options for changing the fog lights but always wondered if it is even possible to use one of those Isuzu fog light push button switches inside but somewhere somehow tap into the wiring that is already there which is controled by the steering column light switch. In other words, normally when you flip that steering column switch, it first turns on marker and stock fog lights, then another turn adds your headlights. So what I'm thinking is somehow taking the fog light wiring out of that mix and running it to a separate Isuzu fog light switch added to the dash....then just adding a new/different fog light assembly to the bumper outside...thus having a separate switch controlling the fog lights, without having to run separate wiring through the engine bay and firewall to do that. Hopefully not confusing but perhaps someone here had either looked into it or done it with success?

I havent messed with that wiring before, but just off the top of my head, i know that the headlight fuse is under the hood and the fuse for the tail lights is in the cabin. I presume that the tail lights and fog lights are probably on the same circuit or at least activated from the same place, which means that the wiring most likely splits before going through the firewall.

That said... why bother? IMHO its not worth messing with the factory wiring behind the dashboard, its just too tight and easy to get messed up. its super easy to run wiring through the firewall, there is a very easily accessible grommet right in front of the steering wheel. No drilling required and protected by the hood and cowl overhang. You can even re-seal it with silicon if you are really concerned about water. I'm only 15 minutes from Collegeville, I would have no problem running the wiring for you someitme.

If it were me, I would put a waterproof relay under the hood that is fed power directly from the battery and going out directly to the new fog lights, and activated by the factory fog light switch. You can run a tiny 18 or 20 ga wire to the switch to activate the relay. Its easy to find a plug to match the factory fog lights, so you could even leave the factory wiring completely in tact, just cover it and secure it behind the bumper so if you ever want to go back, its simply unplug aftermarket, plug in factory.

[VX4EJR]

Hey etl, you're probably right! Guess it's more work one way than another. I can run wiring no problem, just was looking for a logical in and out or something like that. Where are ya located out of curiousity? Every once in a while I see a VX on the road around the area...of course when that happens I'm never in mine!

[etlsport]

Right now im in Spring City and use 113 through Trappe and then cut through evansburg to get to work every day. I just bought a house (with garage!) at the border of Audubon and Norristown on Trooper rd, so ill be moving in within the next month hopefully