PDA

View Full Version : GI: Turbo Kit



jdm monkey
03/08/2008, 07:58 AM
Like the title says, just gaging interest in a VX bolt-on turbo kit. Price will be around $2,500 approx. for the complete kit good for +50-100 hp (on a stock engine).

etlsport
03/08/2008, 08:43 AM
id probably be interested once it was proven... id still rather get ahold of a supercharger though

kpaske
03/08/2008, 11:32 AM
Are the Alpine kits no longer available? They cost just a little bit more and have already been tested and proven.

Joe_Black
03/08/2008, 12:46 PM
I'm sure the interest is there but among those that are you're going to need to provide a lot more details, such as how it's going to be plumbed.

justatwinturbo
03/08/2008, 01:06 PM
details details details. what turbos will you use? will it be single or dual? i was thinking about trying a custom made turbo kit with the 2 wrx 13T turbos i have with 19T wheels......for the best bang for the buck, you cant beat dual 13Ts on a 3.5 liter. i'd be interested, the price is good but it needs to look nice, not something that looks like i could have made it in my garage

CoastieCosta567
03/08/2008, 01:46 PM
Are the Alpine kits no longer available? They cost just a little bit more and have already been tested and proven.

Well they do still sell the supercharger, just in another website. here it is. I would buy it if they did payments not all at once.

http://www.alamomotorsports.com/alpine/alpine_isuzu.html

Thmstec
03/08/2008, 02:30 PM
If there is one thing I like more than superchargers, its turbo chargers! Work on the details, you've gotten my attention

Chopper
03/08/2008, 07:05 PM
Better figure on a tranny upgrade to go with it. 50-100hp boost will grenade the stock one.

So-CalVX
03/08/2008, 07:12 PM
I know that the supercharger is out of my rpm range... I rarely get over 3K. Where does the power come in on the turbo?

Can u do both??? :D

jdm monkey
03/08/2008, 10:37 PM
I know that the supercharger is out of my rpm range... I rarely get over 3K. Where does the power come in on the turbo?

Can u do both??? :D

yah you can have a supercharger and a turbo charger... its called twin charged.

jdm monkey
03/08/2008, 10:38 PM
Better figure on a tranny upgrade to go with it. 50-100hp boost will grenade the stock one.
what gives? the torque converter?
how much hp do supercharged vx have and all of them have tranny problems?

Chopper
03/09/2008, 07:58 AM
The 5psi blower makes LESS than 50hp..... Mr. Apollo or one of the S/C'd guys will straighten me out...but the real number is more like 25 or 30. The Aisin unit in Axioms will take 300, but alas, the humble 4L30E will begin to shred around 265 or so. It was used in modestly powered things, like 3 series an such. It'll last a lot longer at 215hp. than 250.

jdm monkey
03/09/2008, 08:29 AM
I can probably set the psi to a modest level and call it a stage 1 kit to keep the trans from grenading... I think what kills the trans is the increase in torque... I have the same issue in my Lexus SC400 I'm about to turbocharge; its auto tranny was never designed to handle 400hp but its stock 1uzfe engine will.

etlsport
03/09/2008, 10:02 AM
i think the max torque rating for the 4l30e is 285, but yea like u said chopper, the more power you put to it the less life it will have

Solitude
03/09/2008, 11:17 AM
Is that an accurate page?

jdm monkey
03/12/2008, 06:14 AM
The initial plan for Stage 1 kit will use single T3/T4 mid mounted turbo that will replace the stock muffler and will use an oil pump for oil return, 38mm wategate boosting 5-7psi, BOV, FMU, Aluminum charge pipes, Stainless steel braided oil lines, boost gauge etc.

WormGod
03/12/2008, 08:18 AM
I'm with Chopper on this. You may want to plan on stockpiling some trannys as well.

Plus, before I did too much thought work, I would at least take some close looks at the Mooncraft. That plumbing was pretty damned serious and actually called for a custom made front cladding to house the FMIC. There is no way you are gonna get a TMIC in there unless you go hoodless, heh.

In the end, S/C is the best choice with it's modest power and ease. ya ya, I know, not an easy thing to find, but, occasionally, one will pop up.

Good luck. Can't say it has never been brought up before.

(psst.... I actually prefer turbo myself. :bwgr: )

Ldub
03/12/2008, 03:12 PM
I'm with Chopper on this. You may want to plan on stockpiling some trannys as well.

And before you stockpile trannys, maybe get a VX ???:smilewink

You'll find pics of the mooncraft in my gallery.

jdm monkey
03/12/2008, 06:00 PM
I have a VX I just got it a few months ago and yeah it would have been stupid to design a turbo kit for a vehicle you dont have. :) I've seen the mooncraft turbo kit and I didnt like the design.

Ldub
03/12/2008, 06:33 PM
I have a VX I just got it a few months ago and yeah it would have been stupid to design a turbo kit for a vehicle you dont have. :) I've seen the mooncraft turbo kit and I didnt like the design.

My bad I guess...maybe update your profile.
From where I sit, it still says "none".

jdm monkey
03/12/2008, 07:17 PM
ok, updated.

Petos
03/14/2008, 01:34 PM
Is that an accurate page?

Good question - as far as I know - it is not... :(

BTW, I would be in the market for the turbo kit (as well as for the charger..)

jdm monkey
03/14/2008, 05:16 PM
Prototype kit construction will start this spring. I'll keep you guys updated.

Hotsauce
03/14/2008, 08:42 PM
Rear mounted turbo?

So, you're going to be running water and oil lins back and forth, and charge air forwards under the floorpan?

Thats going to be a HUGE volume of intake and exhaust to pressurise to get boost up. You're going to need a bypass valve for sure.

I've seen it done on other cars, but its always been a kludge.

John C.

jdm monkey
03/27/2008, 07:36 PM
As promised, some pictures of the prototype turbo kit 75% complete....
*some items may vary from the actual kit.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0544.jpg
Took the stock exhaust out...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0554.jpg
Here's the turbo for the proto. kit
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0557.jpg
Charge pipe...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0558.jpg
Proposed chargepipe routing. It requires cutting a hole on the inside fender area.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0549.jpg
Return line tapped on the oil cap. This is for testing only, the kit will have a quick release fitting.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0545.jpg
mocked up...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0546.jpg
rear view...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0550.jpg
more pics to come....

JHarris1385
03/27/2008, 07:44 PM
Nice work....

bigkoala1
03/28/2008, 07:10 AM
keep us updated

WormGod
03/31/2008, 09:16 AM
Interesting in seeing how you plan out the cooling. MOAFMIC (mother of all front mount intercoolers)!!!! I have done front and top mount kits, but NEVER have I had to fab my own plumbing. I do not envy your task, heh.

Curious, what turbo are you considering and are you looking at, at least, a 3" turboback?

Keep it up.

jdm monkey
03/31/2008, 05:28 PM
For 5-7psi low boost intercooling is not really needed and with the use of a relatively large compressor compressed air wont be as hot, also turbo placement is away from the engine bay, there's plenty of cold dense air at the turbo's current location. And yes, single 3" turbo back for the exhaust.
Ok now for more pics....
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0611.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0612.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0613.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0614.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0615.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0617.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/sliva001/Vehicross/IMG_0626.jpg

VCrossfan
03/31/2008, 08:29 PM
Jdm...Looks good, I've been trying to find pic's of a guy in Japan that fab'd one about in the same location as your doing. It might give you some idea's on mounts, locations etc. If any member has any pic's of the Jap VX w/turbo post them. Keep us posted..

Cyrk
03/31/2008, 08:46 PM
jdm monkey, nice work...

check this link for more on the mooncraft VX:
http://vehi.world.coocan.jp/moon/moon.htm

http://vehi.world.coocan.jp/moon/vc4-01b.jpg

http://vehi.world.coocan.jp/moon/vc4-04b.jpg

http://vehi.world.coocan.jp/moon/vc4-05b.jpg

WormGod
04/03/2008, 08:45 AM
I think the stock front cladding has a good capability for using a smaller FMIC. Since it has to be fabbed from scratch anyways, it is possible to get it closer to the chassis than the Mooncraft did. Looks like quite some space in there.... probably to keep it away from any radiator heat, but shouldnt be an issue if JDM's isnt putting out enough compression and only a small dose of cooling takes place with the FMIC anyways. Hell, even something small like the top mounts on the STi might suffice in that location without butchering the front end, heh.

So the wheel well was the best you could manage for plumbing? Hmm, shame. But hell, good to see you got this far along so far.

Joe_Black
04/03/2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks for the pics, but YIKE! One, I'd like to be able to turn left again and two, have you calculated the pressure drop on that Rube Goldberg plumbing layout? Did you even consider simply fabbing new manifolds before neutering the roadability of the vehicle? :rolleyes:

jdm monkey
04/03/2008, 02:24 PM
There is no clearance issue on the piping under the wheel well so yah, you can still turn left lol...

Ascinder
04/03/2008, 03:17 PM
There is no clearance issue on the piping under the wheel well so yah, you can still turn left lol...

With what size wheels? Most people run larger tires. And is there any option to run that pipe somewhere other than where we would be mounting rocksliders? I know aluminum tubing doesn't take kindly to close encounters with the ground. Not trying to bust your chops, but if I were in your place, I would welcome constructive criticism, so.....:bgwo:

Chopper
04/03/2008, 04:46 PM
With what size wheels? Most people run larger tires. And is there any option to run that pipe somewhere other than where we would be mounting rocksliders? I know aluminum tubing doesn't take kindly to close encounters with the ground. Not trying to bust your chops, but if I were in your place, I would welcome constructive criticism, so.....:bgwo:The last thing you want on an offroaded vehicle is a turbo that isn't there, isn't there, then WHAM!!! It's there! Now my tires are spinnin', 'stead of grabbing. This setup is gonna have some lag in it. Climbing rocks begs a S/C methinks.

Ascinder
04/03/2008, 04:53 PM
Exhaust cutouts=best of both worlds methinks

Chopper
04/03/2008, 05:03 PM
Think?? I've no experience:o Only negatives with turbos in muck

Joe_Black
04/03/2008, 05:43 PM
Generally I agree that turbos aren't very well suited for off-road gasoline applications, but what we've been kicking around for my rally VX is to use two T-14 or T-23 turbos sitting on top of either tubular or log-type manifolds. Simple, robust short tube runs with everything accessible and high to eliminate heat or dousing issues. More than likely I'll end up with a 4JG2 diesel in it, but that's down the road until the big shop is done. :bgwo:

With what is proposed here you'll either set something on fire from radiant heating or the cast-iron section of the turbo will crack from constantly being drenched or packed in mud, especially if you try to implement heat shields in an area that's a "catch-all" underneath the chassis. What's your plan for addressing vibration on what looks about 20' of tube? When it's all said and done you'll need the extra horsepower to offset the added weight. ;)

spitfire5454
04/03/2008, 05:48 PM
this is a very cool project. i had planned on doing this last year, but after all the bugs were worked out, i the supercharger was just easier. i used to have all sorts of data on set ups like this. ill see if i can dig some up. this is pretty much the only way to do it - i just dont see the room under the hood for a traditional turbo and manifold. STS systems are turbos like this and they seem to work fine. there will be a little lag, but it wont be a deal. also, the long charge pipe running under the car acts as a little intercooler as well. i love turbos, but you cant beat the mean looks of roots:)

WormGod
04/04/2008, 08:36 AM
Right'o. Turbo for tarmac. S/C for insta-grab (that be dirt to ya'll city folk.... like me :D ).

Still, as a city to rural/suburban city transplant now, T/C and S/C appeal. Thus, the Rex and the Vex, heh.

I still think you are gonna wanna take a look into the pressure cause that setup really does concern me when it comes to lag. And without a proper tune (REALLY good luck on that one), I fear you wont see a bit of gain. But please, prove me wrong and make it work. I love an ongoing project. :cool:

Hotsauce
04/04/2008, 04:51 PM
Part of the issue with doing a proper turbo setup(turbo just after header) is getting it emission certified.

The setup he's trying to build is more like a cat back exhaust.

I'm curious what the ECU will think when the BOV opens and metered air reverses through the MAS. I'm thinking that it will read as additional air intake, and dump in fuel for it as you lift the throttle.

With the BOV spring set stiff enough to remain closed at idle you may get some surges.

I do give props for trying though.

John C.

WormGod
04/07/2008, 08:56 AM
Part of the issue with doing a proper turbo setup(turbo just after header) is getting it emission certified.

The setup he's trying to build is more like a cat back exhaust.

I'm curious what the ECU will think when the BOV opens and metered air reverses through the MAS. I'm thinking that it will read as additional air intake, and dump in fuel for it as you lift the throttle.

With the BOV spring set stiff enough to remain closed at idle you may get some surges.

I do give props for trying though.

John C.

Ya, a good performance tune should be able to keep it from running ultra rich, but.... that's the question right there isnt it? Tune a VX? I remember years ago we had a member who programmed access ports for GM or something and he was gonna try to get around to putting together an access port for us to harness up to the ECU. I never did hear the end of that. :(

I took my VX to my WRX guys here in town to see what they thought about a post S/C tune and after 10 mins, they just threw their arms up and said "sorry dude". Damn shame cause I thought that if anyone could find a way, it would be them since they are one of the most renowned mid atlantic import tuner shops.

JHarris1385
04/07/2008, 09:40 AM
Visit: http://hpheaven.street-directory.com.au/

reptiles
04/16/2008, 07:08 PM
Wow, this is fascinating. More power would be great on these vehicles.

Although the large FMIC looks good, I might prefer a smaller side mount (in the front of the wheel well.) Or maybe cool the pressurized charge with an Aquamist water/methanol injection pump?

Like someone said elsewhere in this thread; water or mud hitting a red-hot turbo housing is never a good thing. Even a titanium housing couldn't take much of the thermal shock of that.

I'm thinking that this project will get expensive (much more than $2,500) because of other upgrades... like a bigger brass radiator, electronic boost control (with AI fuzzy logic), new MAS, bigger fuel pump, injectors, air/fuel control, and associated stuff.

jdm monkey
04/17/2008, 10:03 PM
Just a quick update... everthing is installed. I'm just waiting for my wideband sensor installed before driving. Sorry I had no time to take pics of vid. But I will as soon as everything is good to go.

jdm monkey
05/09/2008, 03:58 PM
I'm dishing out the whole remote mount turbo thing... I'm not happy with the lag , the use of electric oil pump and the intake placement (under the car... bad for an off road vehicle). I'm going to redo the whole turbo system and place the turbo under the hood where it belongs! :)

jdm monkey
08/10/2008, 08:23 AM
pics of new setup soon...

So-CalVX
08/11/2008, 01:37 AM
I'm not gonna claim to know anything about setting up a turbo system but I am gonna ask a question... Why not do it Impreza style and mount the inter cooler under the hood insert and cut a hole under a scooped insert? Would that work? I'm asking this without opening my hood to see if there's any room there so I hope I don't sound stupid

WormGod
08/11/2008, 08:25 AM
I'm not gonna claim to know anything about setting up a turbo system but I am gonna ask a question... Why not do it Impreza style and mount the inter cooler under the hood insert and cut a hole under a scooped insert? Would that work? I'm asking this without opening my hood to see if there's any room there so I hope I don't sound stupid

No room for an IC under our hood. It would have to be one hell of a tiny one, and I mean TINY. Even if one did fit, I dont think the aero of our hood design is proper for the right cooling induction so we would probably need one hell of a high scoop (thinking no smaller than the '04-'05 STI scoop).

Front mount would work, granted you could design a new front clip like the Mooncraft, heh.

Definitely one of those mods/tasks I am glad to see someone else try out and not me, heh. :cool:

zachary.berrier
10/07/2008, 01:26 AM
Please send me pics, i can help with your layout if you want. Im very knowledgeable about forced induction, turbos especially have built dsm's and currently have a 500hp wrx. i can help u with getting it under the hood. a front mount isnt that big of a deal. to locate the turbo you will need to fab an uppipe off the collector of equal lengths from the manifold. after that its simple. what size turbo are u using, and another thing the stock td04 is super small that people are talking about lag.The max flow is 475cfm at 18psi, with a 3.5l motor it shouldnt be a problem pushing it. A 2.0l spools it under 2k rpm. what size injectors are stock in the vehicross , also people commenting about the bov springs. Thats why jdm used an hks ssqv bov its a pull type that works off vaccum so its closed at idle and reacts fast and if people are really worried u can plumb it back into the intake before the turbo. ideal is lower compression to run higher boost, but with tuning and a catless 3 in. exhaust there will be power. good luck with the build and im looking to pick up a vehicross as a fun project now. Dont mean to thread jack, just figured i can help you if you need it in any regards with the subaru turbo system.

Lizardmen3477
10/10/2008, 07:19 AM
I am deff in for this I am only in Md I will drive down there to have this done sounds great.

jdm monkey
10/10/2008, 08:57 AM
Sorry guys I got side tracked a bit...
We are currently on a swap (k20 rsx engine in a toyota mr2 spyder + turbo) and a NSX turbo.Hopefully when the project is complete, i can give my 100% attention to the VX. Its just a matter of time... its going to happen. Sit back and relax.

Griffin
10/11/2008, 10:53 AM
I heard about this MR2 setup, I wanna see this turboed VX more though. Get that thing running and we can test it. :D

I have a nice tow strap. Turbo's do work underwater right? lol

xman
10/11/2008, 11:36 PM
dude that would be an amazing accomplishment for th vx... atleast until alpine decideds if they are doing the S/C stage 1 upgrade. even then i still think youll get more power from a turbo... besides they sound bad anus!

Petos
05/25/2009, 09:05 AM
Hey, JDM Monkey.. its been over six months since your last post... any progress on the turbo kit? very curious...

Petos
06/25/2009, 07:04 AM
Just wondering.... anyone ever installed THIS on a Vehicross???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Isuzu-Vehicross-T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a16Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a5 0QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem518a8f260bQQ itemZ350216988171QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fParts Q5fAccessories

WormGod
06/25/2009, 08:31 AM
Just wondering.... anyone ever installed THIS on a Vehicross???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Isuzu-Vehicross-T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a16Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a5 0QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem518a8f260bQQ itemZ350216988171QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fParts Q5fAccessories

It doesn't come with a transmission, so no. :p

Robbomaz
06/29/2009, 06:46 PM
Just wondering.... anyone ever installed THIS on a Vehicross???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Isuzu-Vehicross-T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a16Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a5 0QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem518a8f260bQQ itemZ350216988171QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fParts Q5fAccessories
Petos you KNOW you need a supercharger....:bwgy:

jdm monkey
07/04/2009, 12:35 AM
Hey, JDM Monkey.. its been over six months since your last post... any progress on the turbo kit? very curious...
My engine is leaking coolant in the spark plug hole. Its either a bad head gasket or a cracked cylinder head. Gotta fix this first. Everything has been sorted out but i cant boost it yet.

pbkid
07/04/2009, 12:53 AM
hmmm...cant wait too see the progress!!!

Triathlete
07/14/2010, 02:43 PM
Kid...your still alive! You've been quiet on here lately.:wave:

Ldub
07/14/2010, 03:40 PM
Kid...your still alive! You've been quiet on here lately.:wave:

Dude...you just replied to a post from last 4th of July...:laughing:

You fell for the old "somebody voted on a poll trick"


Who luvs ya baby...:heart:...:smilewink

Triathlete
07/14/2010, 06:13 PM
Sooooo, he could be dead? Oh my!:bwgy:

Bob Barker
07/14/2010, 06:42 PM
Aaaand you're welcome.

Chopper
07/18/2010, 05:39 PM
hahahahahahahahaha

SouthJ1
01/18/2011, 06:08 PM
what happened to the turbo JDM i actually am looking into this

yellowgizmo99
01/18/2011, 08:25 PM
I think he had engine problems.

jdm monkey
01/24/2011, 10:41 AM
yeah first coolant was getting into the spark plug hole. Now, it may have spun a rod bearing. I'm currently rebuilding it and also mating a 5 speed and turbo. :)

vt_maverick
01/24/2011, 10:46 AM
Before or after the Datsun in the garage? ;)

SouthJ1
01/24/2011, 04:01 PM
I hope before

jdm monkey
01/24/2011, 11:37 PM
Most likely before the datsun. :)

jdm monkey
01/24/2011, 11:39 PM
Im also planning a piggy back engine management fir proper fuel/ignition mapping.

vt_maverick
01/26/2011, 10:11 AM
You know with all the threads/posts on here about LS1 swaps, superchargers, etc., I would bet you could make GOOD money if you could get a turbo kit together before Alpine gets their *** in gear.

Btw, are you doing this as a single or dual turbo?

jdm monkey
01/26/2011, 10:25 AM
Single Turbo.
I also have plans for a better superchager kit. I will be based on Rotrex supercharger. Less parasitic loss with good boost response (almost like a turbo), simple to install (no need to take the plenum out). No more old and heavy roots type supercharger. I just need a volunteer. :)

vt_maverick
01/26/2011, 10:42 AM
Is that similar to the Vortec superchargers for the 350Z and G35? Idea is that it goes beside the engine rather than on top right?

And what constitutes being a "volunteer?" :naughty:

jdm monkey
01/26/2011, 05:37 PM
Yeah similar set up. Get the goods and I'll fab brackets and piping. Its easy.

tjh
02/23/2011, 07:15 PM
yeah first coolant was getting into the spark plug hole.

How does the coolant get into the spark plug hole?

jdm monkey
02/23/2011, 08:48 PM
I suspect cracked head. I replaced both heads.

SouthJ1
02/28/2011, 04:13 PM
jdm how much would it cost to set a vx up with the supercharger kit your talking about?

jdm monkey
02/28/2011, 07:11 PM
There's no fixed price yet but it should go for around $3.5K

Update:
Done with the piggy back fuel controller for the VX!!! I'm trying to make a plug and play solution right now with no ECU wire splicing.

SouthJ1
03/05/2011, 11:29 AM
3.5k isnt bad... im liking the sound of that lol

Lizardmen3477
06/27/2011, 09:48 PM
Sooo if i come visit ya for a weekend can we get it done : D

jdm monkey
07/09/2011, 10:34 PM
Sooo if i come visit ya for a weekend can we get it done : D
yeah we'll get it done.... ;)

DutchKiwi
01/07/2012, 04:00 AM
Well, I was poking around on the web (nah, I don't crawl.... haha) and gues what I found in the North-Western Island called "Australia"?

You guessed it - A SUPERCHARGER KIT

(see below)
The quoted power (185kW / = 250Hp) is based on the lesser 6VD1 from the Trooper, factory rated at 142kW = 190Hp)
That's a 60Hp increase, meaning that your 6VE1 would max out at about 270-ish HP or 200kW for us metricans.
Damn - that's close to the max rating for the auto-trans!

CHECK about the re-tuning of the PCM/ECU to suit the Pressure vs. Vacuum and the extra injector

Worth checking out...

http://www.capa.com.au/kits_holden_rodeo.htm


"Holden 3.2L-3.5L V6 Rodeo Eaton Kit
Retail Price: $6,995.00
Rated Horsepower of Kit: 185kW

Parts Included:
All parts are included, except exhaust
Eaton Supercharger
Cast Aluminium Inlet Manifold
Supercharger driven by factory belt system
Intake Pipework, inc. Throttle Body Adaptor
7th Injector with Aftermarket Management

Comments:
This kit is ideal for standard engines."

vt_maverick
01/07/2012, 04:19 PM
Dutch - Check this out:

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15696&page=13&highlight=supercharger

Leon R
05/22/2013, 08:27 AM
Looks like JDM Monkey hasn't been on since Feb. I wonder if he is still playing with his VX. Since I am thinking about doing my own mid mounted turbo kit, I would LOVE to hear some of his details.

AEM FIC piggy-back engine management appears to be powerful enough to give us everything we need!

Some comments about lag, were the original CATs still used on this system? If so, they could have been a MAJOR contributor of this lag! You really shouldn’t have CATs before the turbo! Now, it isn't 100% legal to move it after the turbo ether, but lets face it, most of us will not have to deal with CARB ;).

While you could get away without an intercooler (under 10 psi), it can still help you! With intercooler, you will be able to ether run lower octane gas and/or run more aggressive timing. So I wouldn't dismiss it "just because you can".

I think that engine management is THE most important part of well executed turbo/supercharger system. I think I will start by installing AEM FIC, wideband O2 sensor and larger injectors, BEFORE I actually install a turbocharger. Learn how to tune it and only then install the turbo, which is actually the easy part of this job ;).

EVO
06/28/2013, 06:13 AM
I wish I didn't live in Cali sometimes it really bites!!

jdm monkey
07/28/2013, 08:38 AM
Sorry guys I've been busy at the shop. Another option would be a Rotrex supercharger set up. It is easy to install and very compact. We have successfully fabricated a kit for a Lexus GS400 and can be easily adapted into the VX. I anticipate the kit for the VX to be around $5800.
Here are some pics to get an idea how the setup looks like:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1025446_10153015054315710_334966200_o.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1072242_10153015054235710_194408962_o.jpg
http://youtu.be/FI71dswjRSs
http://youtu.be/R4k4msBP9Uw

Petos
08/02/2013, 12:59 AM
Sorry guys I've been busy at the shop. Another option would be a Rotrex supercharger set up. It is easy to install and very compact. We have successfully fabricated a kit for a Lexus GS400 and can be easily adapted into the VX. I anticipate the kit for the VX to be around $5800.
Here are some pics to get an idea how the setup looks like:


FYI - several VXs in Russia are using Rotrex S/C already.... at least one of them switched from Alpine and claims that Rotrex gives a much bigger boost.. ;)

Vendetta
08/02/2013, 01:05 AM
What about fuel mapping and engine management? Seems to be the biggest bugaboo in my Alpine installation. Maddening.

-V

Knigh7s
08/02/2013, 01:12 AM
FYI - several VXs in Russia are using Rotrex S/C already.... at least one of them switched from Alpine and claims that Rotrex gives a much bigger boost.. ;)

Nice, do they have any pictures/videos of the install posted anywhere?! :bgwo:

Dmitrikr
08/30/2013, 07:33 PM
here it is rotrex on vehicross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vSCOZOk1cg)
on the run (http://youtu.be/0Tmarkr3y6c)
cluster/gauges reading (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiWiMO4lLe8)

Knigh7s
08/30/2013, 07:50 PM
I love it! It looks like the Rotrex fits a lot better than the Powerdyne that Morgen-Tec was using in his Axiom...


here it is rotrex on vehicross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vSCOZOk1cg)
on the run (http://youtu.be/0Tmarkr3y6c)
cluster/gauges reading (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiWiMO4lLe8)

Dmitrikr
09/01/2013, 06:36 PM
good workmanship and design on brackets, measure 7 times before making a cut/hole/move/install))) will make things work and look nice.

jdm monkey
10/09/2013, 09:56 PM
here it is rotrex on vehicross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vSCOZOk1cg)
on the run (http://youtu.be/0Tmarkr3y6c)
cluster/gauges reading (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiWiMO4lLe8)

I have a few questions:
How much boost?
What engine management is he using?
Usually, a draw through MAF with a non-recirculated BOV will cause issues with stalling. Does he have this issue?

Otwobme
07/03/2014, 06:48 PM
Aw Yes Please.....

rtormet
08/26/2014, 12:03 PM
I really want that Rotrex setup! Holy cow

VXCanada
08/26/2014, 12:13 PM
centrifugal superchargers won't produce as much torque on the lower rpms as twin screw SCs do. They do produce good top end HP though. IMO low end torque is much more usable. Hence a twin screw or turbo setup would be much better. That's what pretty much every OEM is doing FYI on FI cars.

T.

NikitaKoval
11/18/2014, 09:57 AM
Roots - very chip and big torque to the lower rpms!!! I can do 6-7 sec, with magnuson MP 90, but my 4l30e not like this :-)))

Leon R
11/18/2014, 10:55 AM
Have you tried upgrading your 4l30e with parts from Level 10 (or some other performance transmission shop)?

NikitaKoval
11/18/2014, 11:41 AM
no I did not make any modifications. what is level 10? I plan to install the switch kit available on ebay.

Mile High VX
11/18/2014, 12:14 PM
no I did not make any modifications. what is level 10? I plan to install the switch kit available on ebay.

Level 10 is a high performance transmission shop located in New Jersey, USA. They make rebuild kits as well.

http://www.levelten.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=36

NikitaKoval
11/21/2014, 08:03 AM
Who used parts from these kits? has anyone modified their automatic transmission? What is the feedback?

what can you say about this ebay set?!
http://m.ebay.com/itm/171544432905?nav=SEARCH

ipd
07/11/2016, 03:05 PM
Nope. Not touching it with a 20' pole. I've seen very, very few good things come from modding a n/a car for forced induction. And it's even worse when the n/a has such a small cluster of vendor support--that you're having to fab everything & find working solutions for everything...on your own.

I'm keeping my VX's powertrain 100% stock.

gingerbreadman
07/12/2016, 10:32 PM
What would u recommend for more HP