"I got BIG tires and I cannot lie"

[Dumke]

"You other brothers can deny".... Sorry that was my worst sir-mix-alot impression. you dont even want to see the best either.

So here is my problem I have my tires on WAHOO and had to cut a bit of the cladding up front. But have a problem with the front tires still. The rear of the wheel well is rubbing. All I an see is a bracket. My question to you "bigger tire" folks is what did u do? Take bracket off and beat with a hamer?? Or just beat with a hammer?

Where it rubs on front tire rear of the wheel well

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02061.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10778)


A upward view of it.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02062.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10779)


And now the red-headed-step bracket

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02063.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10780)



So any suggestions would be awesome. I am thinking its a simple removal of the bracket and maybe hammer a bit.

[ZEUS]

If I remember correctly, the bracket is spot welded to the body - I hacked mine in half with a sawzall where it turns to horizontal. Remove the inner liner and you get a great look at what can be done. I pulled the cladding away from the bracket when I started cutting to protect it. It is glued to the metal and one of those little white plastic plug things secures it to that bracket - I cut my plug off with a pair of dikes to save time, then I carefully pulled until I could wedge something between the steel and the cladding. I used my Roto-Zip to cut the liner and the cladding to shape. I sprayed bedliner stuff very thick onto the metal that is under the liner. Then I hammered the hell out of it! When I got the shape I wanted I sprayed some more to fill the seams and cover the pounded metal. I think it looks pretty clean! I'll take a pic of the finished result when i get a chance... don't hold your breath though!

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Tires_010.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/515/Tires_005.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/515/Tires_009.jpg

[JoFotoz]

Yup...SAWZALL...a grinder...then a cocktail!

jo

[rowhard]

Well, I had the same problem. I took a dead blow to it, it is bendable. One came out looking like that is the way it should be, the other, well, you can tell I took a dead blow to it, oops :smack::smack::smack:

[Ldub]

Yous guys & yer fancy power tools & such...:rolleyesg

Being predominantly of the cave man persuasion, I just beat mine into submission with a two pounder, trimmed off whatever plastic that was still in the way with a tin snips, & finished with liberal applications of bed liner...it's my fender well, I don't care if it's purdy...UGHHHH!:naughty:

[Ldub]

Oh, and what about some pics that AREN'T close ups???:rotate:

[cyronman]

You just lifted, right?

I wanted Terras but they wouldn't fit the AR's without lifting.
I still had to get down and dirty in there.

I had to bend back some of the front-rear wheel well (underneath the lining) and then zip-tied the lining out of the way.

Cy

[Dumke]

Oh, and what about some pics that AREN'T close ups???:rotate:

Because its dirty and that would ruin my suprise lol....




Thanks for the input will check it tomorrow after work and get to hammering and cutting.



Dub speaking of I am looking on jcwhitney @ the fender extension and you go with 3' or the 1-3/4?

[Dumke]

You just lifted, right?

I wanted Terras but they wouldn't fit the AR's without lifting.
I still had to get down and dirty in there.

I had to bend back some of the front-rear wheel well (underneath the lining) and then zip-tied the lining out of the way.

Cy

Ya I had them put on to see how much tires stuck out of the wheel well with AR's I have. Lol no way it would work unless I was only going in a straight line :)

So ya lift required just didnt know how squirrely it felt driving that high up. I feel like I am floating...

[Ldub]

Because its dirty and that would ruin my suprise lol....




Thanks for the input will check it tomorrow after work and get to hammering and cutting.



Dub speaking of I am looking on jcwhitney @ the fender extension and you go with 3' or the 1-3/4?

1 3/4" :_wrench:

[Dumke]

1 3/4" :_wrench:



Other post you said in came in a roll but they only offer a set or pair in reinforced 1-3/4

[Ldub]

Other post you said in came in a roll but they only offer a set or pair in reinforced 1-3/4

That means they will send enough material to do either two, or four fender wells...I ordered the one in the top right pic...the one with the wire in the lip.
I ordered a set, not two...maybe roll was the wrong word to use...think more like coiled into a flat box.:smilewink

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/001fendrflares.gif

[cyronman]

Ya I had them put on to see how much tires stuck out of the wheel well with AR's I have. Lol no way it would work unless I was only going in a straight line :)

So ya lift required just didnt know how squirrely it felt driving that high up. I feel like I am floating...

Oh, you got some AR's too? didn't know...which ones?

[tomdietrying]

Dumke,
This is going to be a nice surprise. Any ideas when the unveiling will be?
Peace.
Tom
012009

[WormGod]

Sawzall'd the hell out of mine. Not the prettiest job but you cant see it and it isnt obviously noticeable.

[Pepino]

what size tires did you put Dumke?

[Dumke]

Oh, you got some AR's too? didn't know...which ones?

Way to ruin the suprise lol. Actually posted in another post but they are the AR thugs. Dont have center caps yet for them as they have to be ordered seperately


what size tires did you put Dumke?

This is sad. I dont know I ordered it awhile back and cant remeber i will look at the tire tonight and also as for rims sizes I am sure people will want to know I dont know that eaither to be exact I will get demensions to them tonight and post them.

[Dumke]

Dub thanks... LOl ya now it makes sense and thank you.


Tom soon VERY soon I hope. I wanted to get to cutting and hammering before I put picture but I do picture now cladding wont be all shiney for all of you. I dont want to shine it up before cutting as I dont want tire shine all over my hands lol.



But i am having to fight not to go ahead and show a picture of it because it looks sooooooooooooo....<pause for breath>... oooooooooooo awesome. Dunno my impatient side may win :p

[Dumke]

Tires are Grapplers 285/65/18 rims are AR Thugs 18x9 6x5.5

[cyronman]

Way to ruin the suprise lol. Actually posted in another post but they are the AR thugs. Dont have center caps yet for them as they have to be ordered seperately


Dude...Congrats!

I can't WAIT to see what some teflons look like on a Kaiser! :_drool:

and the Thugs at that...they looked like they would look awesome...
HURRY UP WITH SOME PICS!!!

[LittleBeast]

Tires are Grapplers 285/65/18 rims are AR Thugs 18x9 6x5.5

That is exactly what I was originally thinking when I wanted to get a lift and bigger tires. I can't wait to see what it looks like! Hurry up!!!!!

[WormGod]

Tires are Grapplers 285/65/18 rims are AR Thugs 18x9 6x5.5

I didnt see anywhere, where you mentioned whether you were lifted or not (or I am simply blind). With a 9" wheel and no lift, I am VERY curious to see just how much you will be cutting. I have 18x8.5's on 285/60's with no lift and my cutting was (and still needs to be since I have a new front clip now) considerable. Whatever you do, dress it up well after you cut. I found a good metal file did a good job at really flushing it all out.

[Dumke]

Worm I do have a lift on it.


I did the front cladding all sloppy because was in a hurry to get to the alignment shop so i have to dress it up a little nicer. But like Dub said its a wheel well who cares.. I really just need to straighten my line out that i cut.

[JHarris1385]

Your having that much troubles with those tires and a lift??? I did not think it would be that bad. I barely had to cut any cladding with my set up.

[Dumke]

Your having that much troubles with those tires and a lift??? I did not think it would be that bad. I barely had to cut any cladding with my set up.

Well I never could color in the line when I was younger lol. I was actually in a hurry in the front and instead of marking it off and taking my time bringing out a drimmel i used the ol first saw i could find in tool box method. it worked good just a little crooked. I had to hurry to get it to alignment shop before they closed.


Now the rear of the front wheel well I havet done because it rained yesterday :( . That and wasnt sure of what bracket was but now I am because of you all and well pictures should be up by this weekend.

[phxsunfan]

it looks good! :D

[LittleBeast]

Now the rear of the front wheel well I havet done because it rained yesterday :( . That and wasnt sure of what bracket was but now I am because of you all and well pictures should be up by this weekend.

We need to have a lifted VX Texas meet! Give me about another 2 weeks and I should be done as well.

[tomdietrying]

Ryan,
Are you going to Moab with us?
Peace.
Tom
012009

[LittleBeast]

Ryan,
Are you going to Moab with us?
Peace.
Tom
012009

AHHH still deciding..... Here is the deal I am going to Provo the weekend before the VX only run for a track meet with Houston Baptist University as one of their coaches. We are flying in on thursday and flying out on Sunday I believe. I have been thinking of driving up the VX but that long of a drive 40 days away from the Olympic Trials is not that great of an idea. I have thought about just staying some extra days after the meet and hanging out with everybody and then flying back later after the team has already come back, but I know I will hate not having my VX. So I am still up in the air about everything.....

[Dumke]

Side view.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02067.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10851)

close up.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02068.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10852)

How far they stick out in front..

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02070.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10853)

and back..

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02071.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10854)



Lower profile view


http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02075.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10855)


I will get day pics if want. Also as always I have no idea how to do the big pictures on the pag so u get thumbnails.


Oh and used this on cladding havent used yet not sure if new or not will see how it works out and holds up.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC02079.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10856)

[ZEUS]

THAT LOOKS FREAKIN' TOUGH MY MAN!!! Good job! How much of a hack job did you have to do to the fenders?

[Dumke]

Well after worrying I just said screw it and cut basically what you did. Hammered the hell out of it but not muchjust kindda shaping and making sure no sharpedges really. I did have to cut a bit of the wheel well liner but eh no biggie no going back now. Rubs a small bit but only a few minor things let to trim. The front of the rear looks like it may need some work. i am worries about the rub when I goto moab so we shall see. I will flex it later to see where it rubs and make adjustments there.



And thanks. I cant tell you how many more people have stoped me and look and flag me down before I get back in my truck to ask what it is. The thing is made to be lifted, doesnt look right without it. I am very happy with outcome. lol so far anyways a few tweeks on the suspinsion to get the water bed feeling out of it when driving down the hwy.

[Ldub]

DOOD ! ! ! . . . T H A Z.....B A D A Z Z !:thumbup:

Looks great & those rimz iz da shiz...:cool:

Look for a drop down menu in the top bar where it sez "My Pics" when you open your gallery... Click on it & select "full size image".

Really nice job Man !

[ZEUS]

And thanks. I cant tell you how many more people have stoped me and look and flag me down before I get back in my truck to ask what it is. The thing is made to be lifted, doesnt look right without it. I am very happy with outcome.
I couldn't agree more. Stance is everything! And the VX still handles really well with a lift. If I ever get a second VX it will be the dark silver with gray interior. Those wheels of yours look so good with that color... I could see me copying your setup but with the fantasy SAS and 35's.

[JHarris1385]

Looks awesome...........is your front lifted up higher than the rear?

[CrnCnn]

That looks sweet. I am gonna be using Barts 265 to see if I want that size but I really like the 285's you fit. I dont mind trimming at all. HMMMMM

[Ldub]

That looks sweet. I am gonna be using Barts 265 to see if I want that size but I really like the 285's you fit. I dont mind trimming at all. HMMMMM

I'm with you...I tried the "middle of the road" approach for a while with 265/70's... because I had all the same concerns that Bart has...didn't want to lose cornering, didn't want to lose mileage, etc., etc.

But after going to 285/75's there is no return...welcome to the dark (dirt) side.:smilewink

[Dumke]

Looks awesome...........is your front lifted up higher than the rear?

Dunno I measured it but, will measure again thanks for noticing...




As for conering pfft liek Dub said in another post with enough hammeringa nd trimming you can turn just as sharp... But not at high speeds. Plus as far as gas goes still testing it. But we all didnt by our Vx's for thier gas effientcy <sp>.

[LittleBeast]

Looks pretty sweet man!!!!! Yeah definitely post up some day shots as well. We will be waiting

[tomdietrying]

Sweet! That is NICE!

O.K. maybe I missed it in the other post. Tell me:
1) name of rimes and size,back spacing etc.
2) name of tire and size
3. price would be nice, but I understand if you don't want to.

Peace.
Tom
012009

[nfpgasmask]

Wow dude, looks great! Those rims are pretty bitchin. Congrats!

Bart

[Dumke]

Sweet! That is NICE!

O.K. maybe I missed it in the other post. Tell me:
1) name of rimes and size,back spacing etc.
2) name of tire and size
3. price would be nice, but I understand if you don't want to.

Peace.
Tom
012009

was on previous page :p no worries i dont mind talking about em.
1.)rims are AR Thugs 18x9 6x5.5
2.)Tires are Grapplers 285/65/18
3.) Pfft i dont mind that way you can say wow nice price or point and laugh because paid too much. Price, well I got them from 4 wheel parts next to the house, was thier march sale. Got the online price I think outthe door was almost 2400. I forget exact price if you want to know will have to wait till I get home to look at invoice. But keep in mind that price is for 5 rims and tires... ya I didnt want to have a odd ball rim so I ponied up and bought 5. Course the sale was 25 % off so basically got the 5th wheel free. The tires were free shipping but probably could have gotten that anyways buying from store so not a deal. That price was for 5 tires and rims, wheel locks and to mount and balance tires. That doesnt include center caps as they cost me a extra 24 bucks because they have to spray teflon on them. I will have to get those this weekend.


Day pictures will be posted when I get home today.


As for the rest of you thanks I am super happy with them and the look even tho I scratched near the lug nut on one of the rims but oh well its only noticable to the user right??

[Scott Harness]

Looks fantastic!! Can't wait to see them in person.

[tomdietrying]

I looked at your pictures again and all I have to say is "that is some money well spent" Looks awsome!

Does this mean you might be going on the ON and OFF again VX LIFTED RUN????

Peace.
Tom
012009

[Dumke]

I looked at your pictures again and all I have to say is "that is some money well spent" Looks awsome!

Does this mean you might be going on the ON and OFF again VX LIFTED RUN????

Peace.
Tom
012009

YA that isnt all I did to the truck did some more... And heck ya I am going on whatever. I am just tailing along will try "just" about anything trail wise. But ya cant wait to see what the puppy can do now. Had a few scares running stock on hotel rock last year as that was my first outting... Look out here I come nothiong but a big bolder can stop me now.

[tomdietrying]

LOL! "Look out here I come nothiong but a big bolder can stop me now." LOL

You gotta like that attitude!:yeso:

Peace.
Tom
012009

[Ldub]

LOL! "Look out here I come nothiong but a big bolder can stop me now." LOL

You gotta like that attitude!:yeso:

Peace.
Tom
012009

No doubt...:thumbup:

But it's not the things sticking up OUT of the ground that'll give ya the most trouble sometimes.:smilewink

[Dumke]

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC02080.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC02083.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC02084.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC02086.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC02088.JPG



various images. Some are after work and thougth lighting wasnt too good so took a few more this morning..



EDIT:: AND HAHA finally got them big thanks Dub been trying to do that for awhile now :)



Ya Dub I know I need to be more warry of the side of my truck hitting the ground... Man I soo wish I could have stayed a week last year. However it is sad tho you got a few scratches on your truck, but it is nothing a little elbow greese cant get out right?? Speaking of you get all that squared away?

[JHarris1385]

Looks great....Now get some tint.

ps. nice wiper blades.

[Ldub]

EDIT:: AND HAHA finally got them big thanks Dub been trying to do that for awhile now :)



Ya Dub I know I need to be more warry of the side of my truck hitting the ground... Man I soo wish I could have stayed a week last year. However it is sad tho you got a few scratches on your truck, but it is nothing a little elbow greese cant get out right?? Speaking of you get all that squared away?

Lookin' Great Dood...I've been lusting after those X-HD lower links since they first came out...:_drool:

Naaa, she still needs some "hammer time", bondo & paint...not gonna fix it till at least after Moab this year.:smilewink

Sure do like them BIG pics...way to go!:thumbup:

[Dumke]

OH I dont get it whats wrong with whiper blades besides they needing replaced and arms needing to be painted.

Ya when I bought truck drivers side was never tinted.. Also spent enough money I have none for tint but that is one of the next items on my list is stip it all and tint it way I want it.




Dub those are not X-HD... They are just the HD ones. I bought Indy4X premium lift kit. Not sure what difference is exactly I know they both look a little different. Also I have two little low profile bump stops or what not which I am not really sure where they go yet as it didnt come with instructions really, and since its all new to me they whole off roading and knowing what is used for what but hey figuring it all out as I go :).



"hammer time":

Please tell me you arent gonna wear the pants to go along with it... LOL, I can see it now you shuffling back and forth. STOP! HAMMER TIME...

[MashyMan]

looks SWEEEET
Where do I get a lift kit like that? I'm sick of sittin' stock...

[JHarris1385]

No i was being serious. I just finally upgraded to the frameless blades and was commenting on yours as well.

I have always wanted to buy the stinkyfab links......

I also like the non-center cap look.

As far as tint. I HATE mine. It will be $250 to rip off and install new tint. Going dark all the way around.

[LittleBeast]

Also I have two little low profile bump stops or what not which I am not really sure where they go yet as it didnt come with instructions really, and since its all new to me they whole off roading and knowing what is used for what but hey figuring it all out as I go :).

Ultra Low profile bumpstops:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/LowBumstop.jpg

Mounting location, (under the upper control arm on the front of the VX), must jack up the VX on the lower control arm to relieve pressure to reach and remove the bumpstop, bolt will be easily acessible on top of upper control arm:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/LowBumpstop3.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/LowBumpstop7.jpg

Increase in downward travel, before:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/LowBumstop4.jpg
After:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/LowBumpstop5.jpg

[pbkid]

ok, so im getting ready to buy my tires and rims....so im basing my spacing and width off of yours, except im going with 16 inch rims, so if i tell them i need 16x9 6x5.5 and 31 inch tires i should be good????
sorry, the guys at the tire shops are freakin idiots and cant figure out what im looking for, so maybe if i bring them in some numbers they can figure it out.
does the 16x9 6x5.5 include offset???? that seems to be the hardest part to figure out.....

[Ldub]

Please tell me you arent gonna wear the pants to go along with it... LOL, I can see it now you shuffling back and forth. STOP! HAMMER TIME...

No man..."Hammer pants" would be MUCH too warm in the desert. :rolleyesg

I do however, have some verry billowy shorts (think jodhpur x about 5) that I'll be stylin' around Moab in...poppin' out of my VX at stop lights & breakin' it day-own...:dance:

[Ldub]

Also, unless I'm looking at this wrong, you should tighten the jamb nut (in red circle) down to the tube.

Pay no attention to the rest of the random doodling...I found out I could make a circle & just went a little nuts.:rolleyesg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/001vxllx.JPG

[Dumke]

looks SWEEEET
Where do I get a lift kit like that? I'm sick of sittin' stock...

indy4x premium lift kit. You can do it cheaper but figured I had money burning a whole so may as well go heavy duty parts on some other things if your gonna do it. But can do it waaay cheaper than I did it but you may have parts break down the road which I didnt want. I dont have exact link as they have already changed thier website. I guess after i bought all that I did they have enough to upgrade it lol... I will try and find link.


No i was being serious. I just finally upgraded to the frameless blades and was commenting on yours as well.

I have always wanted to buy the stinkyfab links......

I also like the non-center cap look.

As far as tint. I HATE mine. It will be $250 to rip off and install new tint. Going dark all the way around.

I dunno blades were with the truck when I bought em... I hadnt even noticed anyone elses or that they were different. But cool none the less then :p . Not sure the diff between frameless and frame as maybe just the look I am sure but I like em.

ya center cap up front looks awesome but the caps didnt come with rism I have to buy them seperate and will have them before Moab.
ya tint sucks that is why its going to have to wait..




..Sweet thanks littlebeast.


Pbkid I will get back to you on how I figure it out about to leave work...



No man..."Hammer pants" would be MUCH too warm in the desert. :rolleyesg

I do however, have some verry billowy shorts (think jodhpur x about 5) that I'll be stylin' around Moab in...poppin' out of my VX at stop lights & breakin' it da-yown...:dance:

Um I have no idea who jodhpur is. I am but 29 :( , but i shall google it when I get home. But if you are gonan bust-a-move dont forget to bring the cardboard to lay on teh ground and the boom box.



Also, unless I'm looking at this wrong, you should tighten the jamb nut (in red circle) down to the tube.

Pay no attention to the rest of the random doodling...I found out I could make a circle & just went a little nuts.:rolleyesg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/001vxllx.JPG

Yup you are. Nut goes toward rear tire and that silver peivce is shiney part so its as tight as it can be. When I got it aligned dude tightened it but yes I am going over every part b4 moab make sure all nuts and bolts are tightened even tho the ones in my head are not.


lmfao ya gotta love the extra doodling. Hey look a chicken... :bwgy::bgwo::bgwb::laughing:

[Ldub]

When ya think jodhpur, ya gotta think of the trou worn by the patrolmen in me, myself, & Irene.:smilewink

Also, I wouldn't get too excited about center caps before Moab...center caps are considered a light snack by most of the trailside rocks.:naughty:

[LittleBeast]

Also, I wouldn't get too excited about center caps before Moab...center caps are considered a light snack by most of the trailside rocks.:naughty:

Maybe not the best way to encourage someone to come to Moab....... hmmm..... Depends on how much he likes those rims looking like new I guess:cool:

[Dumke]

Oh no i went last yr just not all week. If they get stratched they get scratched its all part of it. Cant be a sissy about it. It will suck but they can be repainted or will just have scratches. I am not going to go balls to the wall beating the piss outta them. But on teh flip side I am not going to pamper them and leave the truck in the Mc deez parking lot either

[Dumke]

looks SWEEEET
Where do I get a lift kit like that? I'm sick of sittin' stock...

https://id211.chi.us.securedata.net/independent4x.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=1_12_22_26&products_id=192


Almost every piece I bought.


and this is what I did buy

https://id211.chi.us.securedata.net/independent4x.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=1_12_22_26&products_id=11

Course the top has the HD tie rods and such among other tid bits I added to my order. If the top one was available at the time would ahve gotten it.

Now with that the one I bougth did come with the 9000 xl's... that is just and old picture they have.

[Dumke]

ok, so im getting ready to buy my tires and rims....so im basing my spacing and width off of yours, except im going with 16 inch rims, so if i tell them i need 16x9 6x5.5 and 31 inch tires i should be good????
sorry, the guys at the tire shops are freakin idiots and cant figure out what im looking for, so maybe if i bring them in some numbers they can figure it out.
does the 16x9 6x5.5 include offset???? that seems to be the hardest part to figure out.....

Ok now for you pbkid. I basically looked at what Bart had on his set up to see what would fit on mine. Which if I am not mistaken or maybe he can chim in or do search for his chamber rims. I think is was 6x4.4 maybe??? So I basically just used the search function and looked at who was running what and also looked at thier pictures to see how much it stuck out and got my solution from there. If you can get them to be nice enough to try a few different combos then that will work as well. I just got lucky on the first try but it was a try on first to see if it work, even tho I had already paid so I could have gone different ways. My numbers I am running are in the above post, so look in my gallery and that is how much they stick out of wheel well. I would say maybe 1.5 inches maybe a little more. I am going dub route because even tho legal to stick out in Texas its not legal everywhere.

Lasly because i think i just wrote a novel there. I would go else where to find someone that does know. There are sites out there that should tell you and let you play with options to see what fits.

[pbkid]

ok, well i know that i want 16x9...and i know the bolt pattern, i just need to figure out what type of offset to tell the shop who is ordering them. they said it was +25 offset stock so i dont know if that means i need +27 or +23 to get 2 inches of offset outward to fit wider tires under there...

[CrnCnn]

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Almost every piece I bought.


and this is what I did buy

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Course the top has the HD tie rods and such among other tid bits I added to my order. If the top one was available at the time would ahve gotten it.

Now with that the one I bougth did come with the 9000 xl's... that is just and old picture they have.

That top lift is sweet all you need is drop brackets and you are set.... I know what Im saving for next.