Just out of curiosity...

[iamironman]

Did a search for and could not find these specifics

Would anyone know what would be needed and what/which engine is best used if, say, I wanted to replace the stock engine with a (small enough) V-8 engine that would fit in a VX? What would be needed to "match" it up to the tranny? I have availability on almost an engine of my choice for free, (within reason, like, I couldn't get a corvette engine but something reasonable), and I am thinking I'd like to put a V-8 in. Can it be done within reason? Or what about a better i.e. more HP V-6. Maybe even the tranny too?

[kodiak]

There’s not a lot of V6’s out there with significantly more power then the V6 that’s already in your VX. If you wanted to put a V8 in there you would need to replace the whole drive train. There is a member that’s doing this with an LS1 drive train. I think he was close to finishing the project.

[VCrossfan]

Coachreed started the project on the LS1 Install and he got to the point of installing the motor and I thought he had an adaptor made to mate the LS1 / Isuzu Tranny. But I couldn't find those pic,s but below are pic's of how it sat in 04 before he sold it. If you wanted to keep it 4WD it would take some work, but if you wanted just a RWD street VX drop in a SBC w/tranny and a cut to fit Driveshaft and even going carbureted would eliminate some headaches...

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/medium/406ls1invxunderview.jpg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/medium/406ls1invxsideview.jpg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/medium/406ls1invxtopview.jpg

[etlsport]

there are a few v8s that would theoretically mate directly to your stock transmission.. problem would be that our stock trans is only meant for up to 285 ft lbs of torque.. anything over that and you are going to probably cause some damage..

the possible engines would be the
4.0L v8 from an olds Aurora
4.1, 4.5 and 4.9L pushrod v8s from caddy
4.5L northstar v8 from caddy

http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/trooper/AuroraSwap.html

[kodiak]

Aurora V8?......hmmm.:rolleyes: Dam it; stop putting ideas in my head!:_brickwal


there are a few v8s that would theoretically mate directly to your stock transmission.. problem would be that our stock trans is only meant for up to 285 ft lbs of torque.. anything over that and you are going to probably cause some damage..

the possible engines would be the
4.0L v8 from an olds Aurora
4.1, 4.5 and 4.9L pushrod v8s from caddy
4.5L northstar v8 from caddy

http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/trooper/AuroraSwap.html

[VCrossfan]

Great info...Get ya a couple of shoehorns, grease and a BFH to get those in a VX...



there are a few v8s that would theoretically mate directly to your stock transmission.. problem would be that our stock trans is only meant for up to 285 ft lbs of torque.. anything over that and you are going to probably cause some damage..

the possible engines would be the
4.0L v8 from an olds Aurora
4.1, 4.5 and 4.9L pushrod v8s from caddy
4.5L northstar v8 from caddy

http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/trooper/AuroraSwap.html

[Chopper]

There’s not a lot of V6’s out there with significantly more power then the V6 that’s already in your VX. If you wanted to put a V8 in there you would need to replace the whole drive train. There is a member that’s doing this with an LS1 drive train. I think he was close to finishing the project.

You're trippin'....at 215hp our 3.5 liter was "modest" even by 2001 standards. Modern Hyundia 3.5 is bumping against 275...Nissan's over 300(3.7) much less the serious V6 guys in Germany. You couldn't sell a V6 with only 215 on tap any more....hell, they couldn't sell them then. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, don't take this the wrong way, but, our driveline is a boat anchor....a wheezy, overly thirsty,engine, mated to an overtaxed 4L30E 4 cog that was much happier in the Cimmaron...no matter how you program it. This car crossed some boundries, but the eng/trans certainly wasn't one of them. Strictly a case of what was available already, and cheap to buy.

[kodiak]

You’re right there are some new naturally aspirated freaks of nature out there right now,

but that’s why I said there’s not a lot of V6’s out there with significantly more power.

I didn’t say there wasn’t any. That French monstrosity in the 350z is pretty cool. The

only thing I don’t like about it is it’s French.:rolleyes:

The (N/A) heavy hitters in Germany right now is the Porsche Cayenne V6 at 290hp and the

VW Touareg V6 at 280hp.

Back in 2001 the most powerful (N/A) v6 you could buy was in the Acura NSX-T

3.2 L V-6 engine with 290 hp @ 7,100 rpm and 224 lb-ft of torque and it

still had less torque then the Isuzu 3.5.

In 2001 The most powerful (N/A)V6 made in America was the Chrysler

EGG. High-Output 3.5L in the Plymouth Prowler. at 253hp and it was the

only American V6 with more power then the Isuzu 3.5.

In 2001 The most powerful (N/A) V6 made in Germany was the Mercedes 3.2L E32 at 218hp.

PS: You’re right about the transmission, but the engine is hard to beat.;)

[Triathlete]

The new owner of CoachReeds VX is AlaskaVX! You can probably shoot him an email for some info. I don't think he has done anything with it since he bought it. I think the main thing it needs is wiring. I remember pic in which CR had basically hacked all the wiring off to start fresh:eek:

[Triathlete]

This should fill the engine bay nicely (http://turnkeyenginesupply.com/or_70780.htm):bwgy:
http://turnkeyenginesupply.com/images/products/thumb/60700_1_or.jpg

700 H.P 427ci 780 Ft Lbs. Torque
Displacement: 427 ci
Compression ratio: 9.0:1
Bore x stroke: 4.125 x 4.00
Fuel system: sequential fuel injection
Rev Limit: 6400 rpm
Block: cast aluminum
Connecting rods: Callies
Pistons: Mahle:J.E

[Gussie2000]

Once i was told that the acura MDX's engine would perfectly fit the VX along with RDX turbo,since honda were once related to isuzu

[kodiak]

When you look at a MDX engine it looks very similar to the Isuzu 3.5 but I don’t think they’re interchangeable. :confused:


Once i was told that the acura MDX's engine would perfectly fit the VX along with RDX turbo,since honda were once related to isuzu

[Gussie2000]

When you look at a MDX engine it looks very similar to the Isuzu 3.5 but I don’t think they’re interchangeable. :confused:

I have no idea if that's true,however it'll be good to confirm that info.

The engine is a 3.7L with 300 HP of course the trans will have to being swapped.

If is possible i think the VX have a partner to rely on :rolleyes:

[Bieredalsace]

You’re right there are some new naturally aspirated freaks of nature out there right now,

but that’s why I said there’s not a lot of V6’s out there with significantly more power.

I didn’t say there wasn’t any. That French monstrosity in the 350z is pretty cool. The

only thing I don’t like about it is it’s French.:rolleyes:

The (N/A) heavy hitters in Germany right now is the Porsche Cayenne V6 at 290hp and the

VW Touareg V6 at 280hp.

Back in 2001 the most powerful (N/A) v6 you could buy was in the Acura NSX-T

3.2 L V-6 engine with 290 hp @ 7,100 rpm and 224 lb-ft of torque and it

still had less torque then the Isuzu 3.5.

In 2001 The most powerful (N/A)V6 made in America was the Chrysler

EGG. High-Output 3.5L in the Plymouth Prowler. at 253hp and it was the

only American V6 with more power then the Isuzu 3.5.

In 2001 The most powerful (N/A) V6 made in Germany was the Mercedes 3.2L E32 at 218hp.

PS: You’re right about the transmission, but the engine is hard to beat.;)

In the early 90's GMC built a cute little S-10 pickup called a Syclone. It had a 4.2 ltr. V-6 Turbocharged to beginning at 290 Hp. The truck was AWD and......it was an Isuzu!
So what else could be the perfect replacement? A turbo V-6 fitting in an Isuzu truck with AWD and a minimum of 290 Hp. Seems like the perfect combination to me!!!!


PS: what do you mean a French engine in a 350Z???

[Bieredalsace]

I forgot to mention that I think they were all automatics (could be wrong)

[Bieredalsace]

Some info I just found:

An absolutely exceptional and beautiful example of this original southern California rare, coveted and extremely collectable completely stock 1991 GMC Syclone AWD pickup with it's original matching # 4.3L turbocharged V6 engine with only 35K original and babied miles - obviously never abused! No history of any accidents and absolutely no rust whatsoever! Imagine what this 3500 pound truck drive likes - how about better than when Porsche builds a car with an intercooled turbocharger and four wheel drive! This truck must be seen to be believed and driven to be fully appreciated - the engine is as new, unbelievably responsive with excellent oil pressure and no oil leaks and which sounds absolutely magnificent, the 4 speed TH700 R4 (same as found in the Corvette) transmission shifts smoothly through the gears and the engine temperature always remains cool. #2,503 of only 2,995 Syclone trucks produced by GM in 1991! If you are unfamiliar with these beasts, go to www.google.com or www.youtube.com and check out "GMC Syclone" and see for yourself how this truck achieved the distinction of being the quickest and fastest truck ever produced - an absolute wonder of engineering that produces 0-60 in under 4.6 seconds and a top speed of over 160MPH and burns up Ferrari's (see Car and Driver magazine - in 1/4 miles test the Syclone beat a Ferrari 348TS and at the Bandimere Speedway near Emich, Colorado the Syclone beat a Ferrari Testarossa with a 385 HP 12 cylinder engine in two 1/4 mile tests hands down!), alos will rip Corvette ZR-1's and Porsche Turbo's with ease!! Weighing only 3500 pounds, the Syclone was the first production truck to receive a 4 wheel anti-lock braking system and featured sport modifications and a lowered beefed up suspension and full time AWD which help keep the Syclone planted on the pavement meaning that these fastest production trucks in the world handle pretty good too! The Syclone has a liquid-cooled intercooler and although unconfirmed the club support sites rate the engine's actual horsepower at around 330HP. Capable of 0-60 in 4.6 seconds (Stock!!) and a quarter mile run in 13.4 seconds at 98 mph. 2,995 models were produced in 1991 and were only available in black.

[Bieredalsace]

Wish I had a bigger garage!

[kodiak]

Yep, The 350z V6 was designed by Renault.
The 4.3 was a GM 350 small block V8 with 2 of the cylinders cut off. Tuff little v6.


PS: what do you mean a French engine in a 350Z???

[Bieredalsace]

Well I'll be French-fried!!

[kodiak]

lol! It’s still a good engine.:p


Well I'll be French-fried!!

[Gussie2000]

Some info I just found:

An absolutely exceptional and beautiful example of this original southern California rare, coveted and extremely collectable completely stock 1991 GMC Syclone AWD pickup with it's original matching # 4.3L turbocharged V6 engine with only 35K original and babied miles - obviously never abused! No history of any accidents and absolutely no rust whatsoever! Imagine what this 3500 pound truck drive likes - how about better than when Porsche builds a car with an intercooled turbocharger and four wheel drive! This truck must be seen to be believed and driven to be fully appreciated - the engine is as new, unbelievably responsive with excellent oil pressure and no oil leaks and which sounds absolutely magnificent, the 4 speed TH700 R4 (same as found in the Corvette) transmission shifts smoothly through the gears and the engine temperature always remains cool. #2,503 of only 2,995 Syclone trucks produced by GM in 1991! If you are unfamiliar with these beasts, go to www.google.com or www.youtube.com and check out "GMC Syclone" and see for yourself how this truck achieved the distinction of being the quickest and fastest truck ever produced - an absolute wonder of engineering that produces 0-60 in under 4.6 seconds and a top speed of over 160MPH and burns up Ferrari's (see Car and Driver magazine - in 1/4 miles test the Syclone beat a Ferrari 348TS and at the Bandimere Speedway near Emich, Colorado the Syclone beat a Ferrari Testarossa with a 385 HP 12 cylinder engine in two 1/4 mile tests hands down!), alos will rip Corvette ZR-1's and Porsche Turbo's with ease!! Weighing only 3500 pounds, the Syclone was the first production truck to receive a 4 wheel anti-lock braking system and featured sport modifications and a lowered beefed up suspension and full time AWD which help keep the Syclone planted on the pavement meaning that these fastest production trucks in the world handle pretty good too! The Syclone has a liquid-cooled intercooler and although unconfirmed the club support sites rate the engine's actual horsepower at around 330HP. Capable of 0-60 in 4.6 seconds (Stock!!) and a quarter mile run in 13.4 seconds at 98 mph. 2,995 models were produced in 1991 and were only available in black.

OK,after all this i'm not impressed by the SRT-8 grand cherokee with his 6.1L & 420 HP any more.:cool:

If this syclone is capable of making 0-60 mph in just 4.6 seconds with a 4.3L then JEEP SRT performance team should be fired :mad:

[kodiak]

What about this littlie freak.:evil:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-GMC-TYPHOON-LOW-MILES-XTRA-CLEAN-RARE_W0QQitemZ260312000277QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item260312000277&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

[Gussie2000]

What about this littlie freak.:evil:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-GMC-TYPHOON-LOW-MILES-XTRA-CLEAN-RARE_W0QQitemZ260312000277QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item260312000277&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Holy s.... i want that ty :_steering

[Chopper]

GM is probably still sorting out the litigation brought on by the terrible twins....Typhoon and Syclone. They went in a straight line just fine....the excitement started when you turned the wheel...and seemingly nothing happened. The vehicles both were tin-cans with crazy drivelines, and were marketed straight at 16 year-old males (think STI/Evo advertising) The 6000 or so vehicles built resulted in a few hundred deaths and a ton of maiming. Virtually all kids, hence the lawsuits. The GM "Deathtraps" were a story as big and as damning as the Explorer rollover episodes. A childhood friend, Jeff Day, had one for a few months when we were kids. He burried it in some trees on Marianburg rd. one nite. Mangled his little brother pretty good in the process. They were fast pieces of crap, and about as safe as a pair of rocket powered roller skates.

[Pepino]

GM is probably still sorting out the litigation brought on by the terrible twins....Typhoon and Syclone. They went in a straight line just fine....the excitement started when you turned the wheel...and seemingly nothing happened. The vehicles both were tin-cans with crazy drivelines, and were marketed straight at 16 year-old males (think STI/Evo advertising) The 6000 or so vehicles built resulted in a few hundred deaths and a ton of maiming. Virtually all kids, hence the lawsuits. The GM "Deathtraps" were a story as big and as damning as the Explorer rollover episodes. A childhood friend, Jeff Day, had one for a few months when we were kids. He burried it in some trees on Marianburg rd. one nite. Mangled his little brother pretty good in the process. They were fast pieces of crap, and about as safe as a pair of rocket powered roller skates.

I had a Syclone with 20K miles and as you just stated the problem happened when you turned the wheels, i got in a car accident when i was driving it, luckily it was against the sidewalk, no body damage just the front axle bended and driver side rims broke, i didnt feel the ABS working, the brakes locked and lost control in a curve, at the end with the steering wheel straight the right tire was straight and the left front wheel was turned right.
nobody was hurt and no property was damaged but my syclone, got it fixed and sold it after i bought my VX my dad is still planning on getting another one

[Tone]

Ahh, more dreams of the demented "talkers and never doers... "All ya gotta do is.... Have a freakin' clue! There are so many things to change on the vehicle (besides the ENTIRE electrical system) that like Coach Reed's project, it becomes too overwhelming. Seems those who DO, post their projects AFTER they are done, others just talk about gonna dos... I'm pretty sure Alaska VX would be boasting and posting if he had completed the project....

Dreams are great but you MUST take action to make them happen.

[kodiak]

Amen, talk is cheep. :supercool


Ahh, more dreams of the demented "talkers and never doers... "All ya gotta do is.... Have a freakin' clue! There are so many things to change on the vehicle (besides the ENTIRE electrical system) that like Coach Reed's project, it becomes too overwhelming. Seems those who DO, post their projects AFTER they are done, others just talk about gonna dos... I'm pretty sure Alaska VX would be boasting and posting if he had completed the project....

Dreams are great but you MUST take action to make them happen.

[Solitude]

I remember reading a car and driver article when these first came out that said they would beat a 308gts (Ferrari) in a 1/4 mile drag race.. but don't race farther..

Awesome Vehicle..

8000 would be a decent find

[SlowPro48]

Well I'll be French-fried!!


Shhh! Don't say those words! Our VX transmissions are French!