View Full Version : Bump Steer
tom4bren
11/10/2008, 03:32 PM
Several members in the past have mentioned severe bump steer (vehicle jumps to the side when encountering a significant bump at speed).
Several members in the past have indicated that their rear axle is shifted to the right (due to lift or for any other reason).
Question: If you experience bump steer with your VX, is your rear axle shifted?
Mine is not shifted and I don't experience bump steer. I'm just trying to figure out if a panhard rod drop shakle will help with this problem.
Tom
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mdwyer
11/10/2008, 04:10 PM
The entrance to my datacenter has a severe crest where the gutter meets the pavement. My not-lowered Subaru sedan scrapes underparts when I try to go over it.
I went over it in the VX a little too fast and I swear I almost tipped it over!! The front was fine, but the back leapt up and I probably ended up turned 30 degrees when I landed.
So, yeah. There's a problem there.
Now, just eyeballing the VX Butt, I don't see anything off-center -- not at all like some of the pictures I've seen of lifted ones, at least. Any idea what I could measure from?
JHarris1385
11/10/2008, 04:54 PM
Lifted and exp the bump jump.
Thmstec
11/10/2008, 05:01 PM
My VX is still stock, not sure if the axel is shifted:confused:
I wouldn't say I experience bump steer... but when I catch some air flying over a certain set of railroad tracks:rotate:, the rear end might jump up to 5 degrees on the rebound.
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nfpgasmask
11/11/2008, 09:05 AM
You know, I have never experienced any of this on road, but off road, when hauling tail over a dirt road that has lots of "ribs" from being washed out, my rear end will shift back and forth all over the place.
I was talking to a friend about this, and he thinks it is because we have such stiff coils in the rear. Basically, we are bouncing off the ground. If we had mushyier (is that a word?) springs, or leafs back there, out rear tires would essentially cling to the ground better, instead of catching air all the time. I don't know if he was right, but it sounds good. :)
I do not think the lift makes a difference, I had this problem lifted and not lifted, and in fact, I think it was worse when I was still stock. I can recall a specific moment on a dirt road was before I lifted where I almost went into the ditch because of this...
Bart
Solitude
11/11/2008, 09:14 PM
It has a little to do with the short wheel base too.. I drove over a steel bridge in oakland once that caused it to kinda porpoise sideways over the bridge
tom4bren
11/12/2008, 07:35 AM
Bart,
Yes, short wheelbase vehicles HATE washboard. Mushier springs will help some but will not solve the problem.
The bump steer I'm talking about is a single bump at speed that some have mentioned is bad enough to cause an inadvertent lane change.
Thmstec,
Thanks for the tip. Judging by the responses, it doesn't look like I need to start a poll on this thread but I'll try to 'member for the next time.
I'll have 'Welder Guy' fab up a prototype to try out on CSTYLES' VX since he has both symptoms. I'll let you know how it goes.
Tom
Chopper
11/12/2008, 08:06 AM
Look at Baja trucks. They're so soft, they are difficult to drive on anything other than straight pavement. Isuzu realized these things would spend %90 of their life on pavement and built accordingly. I'd hate to soften this thing up.
nfpgasmask
11/12/2008, 12:21 PM
Bart,
Yes, short wheelbase vehicles HATE washboard. Mushier springs will help some but will not solve the problem.
The bump steer I'm talking about is a single bump at speed that some have mentioned is bad enough to cause an inadvertent lane change.
Tom
Well, then I can safely say I have never experienced what you are talking about. It sounds scary. :eek:
Bart
Knigh7s
11/12/2008, 06:43 PM
I experience this on a daily basis. But I have to say It scared the snot outa my nose the first time it happened.
There is a crease between the off ramp and the bridge where I exit the freeway everyday and if I get the green light, I’m coming in at least 45mph and hit the bump mid way in the turn; my back end always pops up and shifts to the right throwing off my "line" of driving. But I’m so used to it now that I already know how to compensate for the bump. I’ve got the Rancho 9000xl installed and set to number 9 and sitting in the stock stance btw. Setting it any lower I float around like a semi truck cab sitting on springs or something…
evillecutter
11/22/2013, 01:53 PM
when i hit a bump on certain roads my vx pulls to the right and sometimes i have to hold the steering wheel at about a 15 degree angle for the yellow gremlin to go straight - it did not do this before i bent the inner passenger tie rod end - going to try to replace it this weekend and have it aligned and see if that fixes it
how do i know if my rear axle shifted?.
and wtf is a panhard rod drop shakle? (other than a kick *** name for a rock band)
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