The Roof scoop project has started.

[CoastieCosta567]

Here are some of the results of the roof scoop installed, but still gots way more left to finish the project but got the whole idea finished in my head, now i need to find all the right stuff to finish it.


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/march2009068.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/march2009069.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/march2009071.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/march2009072.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/march2009073.jpg

[VehiGAZ]

Looks good Coastie! Good luck with the plumbing...

[CoastieCosta567]

thanx, i have a very good idea and well plan, but just need to find the proper and strong material to get the project rolling, and for hiding the plumbing in side the VX i have a great idea aswell, just again, i need to get off my arse and start looking. but everything seems very well though. hopefully, ;)

[LittleBeast]

Honestly I wasn't sure when you mentioned this how it would look, but I think you can pull it off now. Can't wait to see the finished product, looking good so far! :bwgy:

[don moore]

That Looks Great...Ive been thinking of a smaller on the roof area and put led driving lights in it
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13348&cat=3196 .since im not going to cut a hole in the roof.....i got one of the smaller ones for the hood ..but im not happy with the look.

[PittVXr]

Looks good Coastie! I think it really works with the rally look you are going for. Keep us posted on your progress.

[pbkid]

i love it!

i think it looks amazing!!!

glad to see that someone has done something serious with their VX...

i thought i was doing decent by cutting huge holes in my dash to fit a 2-din radio.

you definately have the biggest b@lls around here...

[nfpgasmask]

It looks totally sick, man! You've done a wicked job rallying your VX out! I wish I could see it in person.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Gotta say...I thought it would look UGLY...


..But I really like it!

I cant wait to see the plumbing...:o

Great job;)


jo

[Gussie2000]

Hi costie,I'm surprise you are determind to pull off this plan,yet still I do have my reservations about that air induction to the engine.
Remember that air dams were designed to provide air to the engine bay,not to be use as a air intake.You may regret having that stuff done to your engine if air bone debries gets thru the dam & makes his way to the throttle,what about water on rainy day or bugs,even small birds.I mean common costie,i think you're pushing things beyond limits.
The VX is a "rally inspired" SUV,that's why it comes with a special suspension system & nice aereodynamics design so no big mods is needed to "transform" your nice looking toy to go rally;Plus ask your self if rallying will be a huge part of the VX life,unless you'are thinking becoming a professional rally racer I'll focus more on improving the engine's power & the drivetrain reliability/dependability more then a air dam over the roof.
Adding a dam over means you'll be forced to modify the front side of headliner,less windshield vision,less head room.
The last thread you mentioned this project you asked what we do think about it,many of us answered your ?? 'bout it negativetly & i guess all us can't be wrong.

However good luck costie....PURA VIDA

[CoastieCosta567]

thanx guys, well Gussie, i have it all planed out, don't worry about the bugs, rain, air supply, i have all the things figuered out. trust me i have thought of it all and i was scared to cut, but once you dive in, all you can do is wait till you hit the water, so i'm in the air and i got to go through with it. now that i got the scoop up, i'm more sure it will turn out better then i imagine. Also this is not really a scoop for air induction to supply the engine with more air. this is really just a fanzy hide the snorkle look and make it more usable then normal.
1: it will supply fresh cooler air no matter what.
2: will keep it from the lower dust and get cleaner air.
3: will keep it from hydro-locking with water up to the roof, even though i won't ever go underwater more then past my mirriors if i have to. So making it a go anywhere SUV if i have to and in flooding it will surve really well.
4: gives it a sweet look and diffrent. :bwgy:

[JHarris1385]

Coastie - your VX is awesome - simply put.

Do what you want and dont listen to opinions of others when it comes down to making you happy. Your VX really does the rally thing well.

I am also highly certain you would not cut and go through with this project if you did not have a plan in the first place.

[CoastieCosta567]

now i have thought of the filter, but was not sure of what 2 use, cuz i have two methods. 1st idea is have the filter inside the VX and being abale to change it from inside and stuff. 2nd idea, whitch i like better is having to use an old stock airbox that will fit the VX and is small but big enough to modifiying it and if for some reason water still goes in, it will collect under the box and when i check under the hood and if any water has added up in there, just clean it out. plus the 2nd idea will give me more room inside the VX and make it easier aswell.

[CoastieCosta567]

That Looks Great...Ive been thinking of a smaller on the roof area and put led driving lights in it
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13348&cat=3196 .since im not going to cut a hole in the roof.....i got one of the smaller ones for the hood ..but im not happy with the look.

i used to have that scoop in my old Silver Rodeo LSE.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/caro_002.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8725)

[WormGod]

Allow me to be the first to swim against the current and be unpopular opinion (as usual)...

*facepalm*

First off, too big. Looks like an eyesore to me and I am a Subaru guy. :eek:

I saw the other thread (and that is the scoop I voted LEAST likely), and I am still REALLY completely unsure of what purpose a ram air of any sort will do for you from there at all. :confused: You will REALLY need to be ramming some heavy air and going pretty fast to force air through all that plumbing to do anything at all for your engine bay (which will still really do nothing, so too many of us have found out, heh).

The work involved will seriously hamper any chances you have in resale.

Sorry dude, gotta say it.... rice. Just my opinion of course, but when you are embedded in the Subaru show/autoX community as much as I am, you see some absurd stuff (that even makes your project look golden).

Don't mean to pi55 on your picnic, but sometime ssome wisdom can be found in various opinions, heh.

[Gussie2000]

Allow me to be the first to swim against the current and be unpopular opinion (as usual)...

*facepalm*

First off, too big. Looks like an eyesore to me and I am a Subaru guy. :eek:

I saw the other thread (and that is the scoop I voted LEAST likely), and I am still REALLY completely unsure of what purpose a ram air of any sort will do for you from there at all. :confused: You will REALLY need to be ramming some heavy air and going pretty fast to force air through all that plumbing to do anything at all for your engine bay (which will still really do nothing, so too many of us have found out, heh).

The work involved will seriously hamper any chances you have in resale.

Sorry dude, gotta say it.... rice. Just my opinion of course, but when you are embedded in the Subaru show/autoX community as much as I am, you see some absurd stuff (that even makes your project look golden).

Don't mean to pi55 on your picnic, but sometime ssome wisdom can be found in various opinions, heh.

That's exactly what i meant;If he is so focus on being rally oriented then spend those $$$$ on the engine,trans & drivetrain.
Costie also mentioned flooding & by experience,because i'm. also from a tropical country i can assure you once you get into a flooding there's no snorkel that works,only a winch,however Mrharris told him to do whatever costie is happy with which i'll agree with,but since he consulted us about this proyect many of us provide him some insight.

[JHarris1385]

The air recived from this will be comparable to the air a snorkel recieves on a jeep.

[CoastieCosta567]

Allow me to be the first to swim against the current and be unpopular opinion (as usual)...

*facepalm*

First off, too big. Looks like an eyesore to me and I am a Subaru guy. :eek:

I saw the other thread (and that is the scoop I voted LEAST likely), and I am still REALLY completely unsure of what purpose a ram air of any sort will do for you from there at all. :confused: You will REALLY need to be ramming some heavy air and going pretty fast to force air through all that plumbing to do anything at all for your engine bay (which will still really do nothing, so too many of us have found out, heh).

The work involved will seriously hamper any chances you have in resale.

Sorry dude, gotta say it.... rice. Just my opinion of course, but when you are embedded in the Subaru show/autoX community as much as I am, you see some absurd stuff (that even makes your project look golden).

Don't mean to pi55 on your picnic, but sometime ssome wisdom can be found in various opinions, heh.

Well like i said before, i like it, some like it and like the rest of the people that have seen our VX's not so many like it, so by just owning a Vx, you are swimming against the current anyways. Its cool that you feel that way, it's what you think and i respect that. But i didn't post pictures of it to have people judge it, just look at it. and like i was brought up, if you don't got something nice to say, don't say it at all, it won't get you anywhere but just put rinkles on peoples forheads. and i was not asking for an openion on this thread, just keeping the people interested involved thats it. I'm not upset, but ricer, i think thats a little to far. Its a functional scoop. Rally vehicals have them, eather for fresh air inside for the drivers or for ram air on very modified Rally vehicals. This scoop is for a snorkle reason mainly like i said before, if nothing else works, at least the snorkle will work for the true intension of this project. Also just cuz rally vehicals have not done a scoop for just a snorkle don't mean i can't. Hay maybe i'm the first to start something new :bwgy:. Well anyways a snorkle does work Gussie, thats why they are made. I understand your from Columbia and you know about vehicals back at ur home counrty have snorkles for flooding reasons, but they do make them for the reason your vehical won't hydro-lock. it's not like i'm going scooba diving or anything, just for emergancy perpose and fun offroading.

[cyronman]

The work involved will seriously hamper any chances you have in resale.

Sorry dude, gotta say it.... rice. Just my opinion of course, but when you are embedded in the Subaru show/autoX community as much as I am, you see some absurd stuff (that even makes your project look golden).

Don't mean to pi55 on your picnic, but sometime ssome wisdom can be found in various opinions, heh.

Coastie,

Although I thought you were a little outta control at first, your VX is absolutely unique and it shows off your love and creativity. Props there. And that's all that should matter--how much YOU like it.

I also completely agree with Wormgod in technical terms.
If it will somehow help performance, she's YOUR ride, MOD away!
However, it seems like a lot of work for an experimental mod. And although it would be 'silly' to just stick the scoop on the roof for looks only...you might get the same results out of just that.

I am impressed with your ambition though, don't get me wrong.

Cy

[JoFotoz]

Coastie......you often ask for opinions from others here;)





But i didn't post pictures of it to have people judge it, just look at it. and like i was brought up, if you don't got something nice to say, don't say it at all, it won't get you anywhere but just put rinkles on peoples forheads. and i was not asking for an openion on this thread, just keeping the people interested involved thats it. I'm not upset, but ricer, i think thats a little to far.



.....so dont be surprised if you get them , even if on "this" thread ya didnt ask.

And hey... ya seem happy with the positive ones:p


jo

[johnnyapollo]

With the exception of old muscle car shaker hoods, most hood intakes are used to provide air to intercoolers. When you look at stock or semi stock, if there's an intake it's on top of a supercharger or velocity stack, normally tall enough to take advantage of some of the additional cool air. I think the placement in this application would provide some cooler air, my only concern is what shape it'll be in when it gets down to the engine compartment.

You do get the added benefit of the snorkling effect, provided the path is well sealed all the way to the intake - however the biggest problem most people drivng thorugh water in the VX has experienced is a failed alternator. Something about the water getting inside the wiring components - read some of the threads of the Ocala off-road meets. You may want to do something to shore up and waterproof the other electrical elements under the hood if there's deep water in your future.

Kudos on trying something different - whether it works the way you thought or not, at least you're doing something about it instead of talking. Tone may not have approved of what you're doing, but I'm sure he'd be on board with the attitude behind it.

-- Best, John

[Gussie2000]

[QUOTE=JoFotoz;153407]Coastie......you often ask for opinions from others here;)








.....so dont be surprised if you get them , even if on "this" thread ya didnt ask.

Thank you !

[Gussie2000]

Well like i said before, i like it, some like it and like the rest of the people that have seen our VX's not so many like it, so by just owning a Vx, you are swimming against the current anyways. Its cool that you feel that way, it's what you think and i respect that. But i didn't post pictures of it to have people judge it, just look at it. and like i was brought up, if you don't got something nice to say, don't say it at all, it won't get you anywhere but just put rinkles on peoples forheads. and i was not asking for an openion on this thread, just keeping the people interested involved thats it. I'm not upset, but ricer, i think thats a little to far. Its a functional scoop. Rally vehicals have them, eather for fresh air inside for the drivers or for ram air on very modified Rally vehicals. This scoop is for a snorkle reason mainly like i said before, if nothing else works, at least the snorkle will work for the true intension of this project. Also just cuz rally vehicals have not done a scoop for just a snorkle don't mean i can't. Hay maybe i'm the first to start something new :bwgy:. Well anyways a snorkle does work Gussie, thats why they are made. I understand your from Columbia and you know about vehicals back at ur home counrty have snorkles for flooding reasons, but they do make them for the reason your vehical won't hydro-lock. it's not like i'm going scooba diving or anything, just for emergancy perpose and fun offroading.

Costie,I don't know how much rallying knowlegde you may have,however when your compare an jeep with a VX you are making a mistake,the problem with the VX is that the designers didn't had on mind a snorkel to it,plus there's no accesories avalaible to do a professional snorkel system for it,many fellow VX'ers here told you go ahead & do what makes you happy,however if you ask them if they'll follow you on this i bid none wouldn't.

The VX is one of a kind SUV,so special that few regular mods on other vehicules just don't fit for the VX. And the fact that the VX is a SUV that not many people wouldn't consider as a vehicule because is like swimming agains the stream shall make think about it.

By the way,i'm from venezuela,not colombia.I belongs to the venezuelan national 4x4 isuzu club & also had a nice toyota named "MACHO" which looks very alike the tropper 2 doors,just with a V6 engine & i can also tell you i had a snorkel system designed by toyota.

Rally for years on differents locations across the country in very tough terrains & got vertical lock even with my well designed snorkel,so don't take this snorkel stuff as a "life saver" to get you outter all stucky situation.

You must also do few mods related to electrical exposed at the engine,such as alternator & the starter & wiring.

I saw few months ago a VX in england thru youtube with a snorkel,very rookie looking,the guy made a hole on the driver front fender & runned a flex plastic pipe all the way up to the door pillar.

However costie no hard feelings,what can i say ? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just go for it & keep us posted on the progress :)

[Marlin]

Man, your Vx looks sweet, but I too am not sure how much good a roof mounted snorkel will do. I Wish my Vx looked half as cool as yours...

[JoFotoz]

Coastie...how about some Pics of your ride...


...actually OFF-ROAD?


Just a thought...and if I missed 'em...please re-post;)



jo

[MustangO4]

I like it. I was actually considering a small scoop backwards in the rear of the roof as a vent to pull air through the cab better with the windows down.

[pbkid]

Sorry dude, gotta say it.... rice. Just my opinion of course, but when you are embedded in the Subaru show/autoX community as much as I am, you see some absurd stuff (that even makes your project look golden).


what is it with subaru people and thinking everything else on the road is rice??

newsflash- subarus come with a huge hood scoop and a SQUARE wing, doesnt get any more ricer than that...

sorry wormgod, its nothing personal, i just read the subaru forums because im considering a subaru as my next vehicle and all of them have their heads so far up their own arses that they are gonna need windows put into their stomachs so they can see where they are walking...

[cyronman]

what is it with subaru people and thinking everything else on the road is rice??

newsflash- subarus come with a huge hood scoop and a SQUARE wing, doesnt get any more ricer than that...

sorry wormgod, its nothing personal, i just read the subaru forums because im considering a subaru as my next vehicle and all of them have their heads so far up their own arses that they are gonna need windows put into their stomachs so they can see where they are walking...

I think what Wormgod meant by "rice' was in regards to people going overboard with useless mods on vehicles in the sense that it's SUPPOSED to create this (rally) image rather than function. It drives true autoX/rallyists up the wall, as well as the everyday person, because people that don't understand what true performance enhancing mods are can't understand or respect the difference. To many, they are nothing more than ridiculous eyesores.
There are some Subaru jackasses out there as well, ricing out their wrx's instead of autoXing it or just being happy to have one of the best all around street cars that come stock.
Hood scoops and spoilers that come on Subarus are performance inspired, beneficial additions. Although they might not be totally necessary to most of the everyday owners, neither are a lot of the features that come in a lot of vehicles.
However, it does get way, WAY more ricer than that.

Cy

[WormGod]

what is it with subaru people and thinking everything else on the road is rice??

newsflash- subarus come with a huge hood scoop and a SQUARE wing, doesnt get any more ricer than that...

sorry wormgod, its nothing personal, i just read the subaru forums because im considering a subaru as my next vehicle and all of them have their heads so far up their own arses that they are gonna need windows put into their stomachs so they can see where they are walking...

pb, they would be what you call Elitists. Not all, but MANY (not as bad as BMW forums.... you should check THOSE out sometime... WOW). Many Evo and STi owners tend to put themselves on a pedestal even over Lancer and WRX owners. THAT is sad. Like I said, not all, but enough to take notice, as you have. I fall into the class of folks who tend to stay in the "sleeper" class. Bare bones looking on the outside, top secret on the inside. ;) My WRX is solely for DD use so there is nothing special to brag about. Even autoX last year it was fairly close to stock. Fairly. ;)

I will defend the scoop at least by saying it is fully functional, heh. Until they come with front mounts, those scoops will remain. As for the wing.... NO wing, small or large, is functional for everyday use. No clue why the manufacturer even offers them, other than putting another $800 on the sticker for it. :confused:

Coastie, no offense was offered in your direction. Whether you asked for opinions or not, people will offer them for the sake of learning/R&D, especially since you are planning some pretty major hack-and-slash work. The last thing any VX owner wants to see is someone take a saw-zall to a VX and then step back and go "whoops". You don't appreciate the opinions expressing concern, yet you praise and accept the opinions that merit your own opinion about your project? You won't learn that way. Open your mind up man. ALL opinions are being offered to you, free of charge, from people that know these vehicles inside and out, and you should be grateful enough for that much. Nobody wants to see a VX butchered just for the sake of looking a baja/rally vehicle. Like Gussie said, it would probably be far more worth all this kind of time, trouble, and money to do some actual mechanical/performance work to BE a baja/rally instead of just candy coating it.

I say rice because "I" consider candy coating to be just that. Scoops, wings, decals, hood pins, intakes (in most cases), chrome dressing.... basically fluff, on every day vehicles. Stuff with no real purpose or functionality other than standing out to get some attention. And you know, that's still fine if that's your thing, but I would rather see you put this effort into maybe some solid offroading applications, since that appears to be your original focus. All this money spend on "dressing" could add up to some pretty solid suspension or skid plates. See what I'm saying? ;)

But hey, like you said.... it's your VX. I only offer my thoughts as tools for your R&D. Better to offer them now before you have a gaping hole in your roof. ;)

Seriously though, no offense. I have crap on my VX that I am sure people don't agree with, so I know your situation. Don't let it stop you though. Do what you are gonna do, but know that any opinions are there for you to either take into consideration or to ignore.

[CoastieCosta567]

Don't see this if you can't handle the pain of seeing VX's turned riced, cuz thats what people call it now it day. RICED to every kind of touched up Vehical out there.Coution ..... SEE THIS IN YOUR OWN RISK.

riced out car....Below....
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/Beforeandafterricer.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/ricer_civic_1.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/Ricer.jpg

Riced out VX's(thats what some think) :rolleyes:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/darlenesoldfotos1326.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/darlenesoldfotos1472.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/2001vehicross_02.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/bobland1-me.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/pelle2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/vehicross.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/vhei-further02031001.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/14.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/10.jpg

HERE I"LL throw mine in there, cuz i guess I'm that "RICE" catagory now.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/march2009068.jpg


Well i know what you all are saying, trust me i'm opened minded, giving the fact of creativity, i do have more in my mind then just Black & White. I'm by no means trying to go "RICER", just following the Rally scene, and i don't know if you guys have notice, but most rally vehicals explode with colors and decals and sponsers and mods, so on. now if i took my yellow s2000 and did add home made and useless scoops on it, then yes call me a "RICER", but i'm not. And I do know the diffrence of a sleeper and a "RICER". I don't have 250,000 bucks to spare and finsh my ride completly rally, but with do time it will turn out to be one, i have many projects, mechanical wise and cosmetic wise, just that cosmetic is faster and cheaper for now, later i'll start with mechanical projects, trust me i have planty in my so you call " CLOSE MIND" of mine ;) .

And on this forum we have pretty much 2 main types of VX'ers out there.

1: The Creative and Artistic mind.
2: The plain Black & White, don't give a who Mind.

Example Below.

#1 http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/610x.jpg
#2:http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Puravidahawaii/art1.jpg


NOW where do you fall in?

So no hard feeling, just saying my "OPENION" :bgwo: .

[nfpgasmask]

Seriously though, no offense. I have crap on my VX that I am sure people don't agree with

Yeah, like this:
http://wormgod.8m.com/Images/Ebony/vx_boots.jpg

;puke2; :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

And on this forum we have pretty much 2 main types of VX'ers out there.

1: The Creative and Artistic mind.
2: The plain Black & White, don't give a who Mind.

NOW where do you fall in?

So no hard feeling, just saying my "OPENION" :bgwo: .

Hey Coastie, what about just "plain Black"?? That's where I fit in!! ;)

:thumbup: Bart

[CoastieCosta567]

Hey Coastie, what about just "plain Black"?? That's where I fit in!! ;)

:thumbup: Bart

you can never go wrong with plain black, it's all the colors mixed together to make a mutt color. :bwgr:. if i had a black VX, trust me, i would of gone your direction, i love the stelth look.

[Gussie2000]

If you grabb attention on the way the VX's in those pics looks you can figured out that "ANY" one really got any "RICER" mods,all of those VX's are mostly modified inside then outside,suspension & engines are improved for true rally,yes still you don't see any one with "SCOOPS" "AIR DAMS" o big holes on them.

I can bid you 100's of dollars that those mod VX's will dust your windshield without scoops just because they all focus on endurance & dependability. :)

[Gussie2000]

Yeah, like this:
http://wormgod.8m.com/Images/Ebony/vx_boots.jpg

;puke2; :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Bart

Oh no ! :freek:

[Marlin]

Yeah, like this:
http://wormgod.8m.com/Images/Ebony/vx_boots.jpg

;puke2; :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Bart

Dude, do you have the matching purse and holster to go with those!!!! :flame:

[Gussie2000]

Dude, do you have the matching purse and holster to go with those!!!! :flame:

hahahahahahaha man you make my day :p

[CoastieCosta567]

If you grabb attention on the way the VX's in those pics looks you can figured out that "ANY" one really got any "RICER" mods,all of those VX's are mostly modified inside then outside,suspension & engines are improved for true rally,yes still you don't see any one with "SCOOPS" "AIR DAMS" o big holes on them.

I can bid you 100's of dollars that those mod VX's will dust your windshield without scoops just because they all focus on endurance & dependability. :)

bro you focus and focus and focus on 1 thing and 1 thing only, the "scoop", if you read the whole thing throughly, you will read that i said i don't have the cash to throw away in 1 big mondo size project, yes i know those would smoke me, and thats awsome, i give them props, but like i said before, i started with the outside first, then i'm working on the inside and then go deeper to the mechanical side. my pocket only goes so deep ya know, plus like i said the scoop is not for performance to the engine, you understand that right? sorry i didn't put a long black pvc pipe on my side of the fender and up to the side, i just don't like that way it looks on the VX, personally. Again, the engine, are not that many mods you can do other then a s/c that those vx dont have anyways, and tranny, diffrent gears and so on will come later. if you read the thread about the yellow/green rally VX, it didn't really have that much done to it, just really diffrent shocks and extra gas tank. if you look at my gallery and see the process, you will see that i have gone a long way, just money is an issue here, but with due time it will come all together. so whats your openion, now that i truely ask. Do you think my VX is "RICER"? Cuz i don't think it is in my own eyes and what i think a real "RICER" is.

P.S. Sorry about the Columbia comment, i always get the Columbian flag mixed with yours, my bad.:grino:

[JoFotoz]

Coastie...POST pics of your "Rally" VX...


...actually "Rallying"


That'll shut 'em up!......;)


jo

[JoFotoz]

Its called...a "ManBag"



Dude, do you have the matching purse and holster to go with those!!!! :flame:


......:eek::p:eek:


jo

[Gussie2000]

Do you think my VX is "RICER"? ( I never said so neither )

Cuz i don't think it is in my own eyes ( X2)

Sorry if i came lil hard on you about your proyect.

As for me this thread is over

[pbkid]

It drives true autoX/rallyists up the wall, as well as the everyday person, because people that don't understand what true performance enhancing mods are can't understand or respect the difference. To many, they are nothing more than ridiculous eyesores.

so, changing a vehicle because you like the way it looks is ricer now?? because im pretty sure most VX owners bought it because of the way it looked ;)

Hood scoops and spoilers that come on Subarus are performance inspired, beneficial additions. Although they might not be totally necessary to most of the everyday owners, neither are a lot of the features that come in a lot of vehicles.

oh, im very aware of the purpose of the spoiler and the hood scoop on the subaru, im very very interested by the subaru, i love them and think they are great vehicles. i just dont understand why the owners seem to think they are above everyone else...

Cy

:clap: god i love the friendly banter we have on this site...

[pbkid]

pb, they would be what you call Elitists.
ya i know that there are bad apples in every group it just seems to be very strong with the subaru crowd

I fall into the class of folks who tend to stay in the "sleeper" class.

i agree, sleeper is the way to go when your dealing anything that people view as ricer, otherwise your just asking for trouble...but thats a style decision, not a poor choice in vehicle

I will defend the scoop at least by saying it is fully functional, heh. Until they come with front mounts, those scoops will remain.
ya, i understand the meaning behind the hood scoop...but i just find it ironic that they razz everyone else on the road for having a scoop



its nothing personal wormgod...
if you have payed attention, i love the subaru vehicles...i just dont understand the high and mighty mindset...

[pbkid]

Its called...a "ManBag"





......:eek::p:eek:


jo

hey jo....

do manbag's go well with Ugg boots?? :p

[JoFotoz]

If ya have to ask...


hey jo....

do manbag's go well with Ugg boots?? :p

...ya just aint UGG worthy!


(BTW...Large Rum & cokes go well with Ugg boots!)

JO

[WormGod]

The best part about me is, I can take the crap you all can dish out. Even Coastie's sarcastic reply (which still really made no sense with his sad attempt pic comparisons). Just remember, "RICE" is a personal state of mind. An aesthetic. I say po-tay-to, you say po-tah-to.

And you all know what.... those leather shift boots look even better 5 years later. STILL use 'em and they STILL look good! :cool: (I do wish they were offered in a darker gray or black though.... to match my Gucci bag)

[Marlin]

And you all know what.... those leather shift boots look even better 5 years later. STILL use 'em and they STILL look good! :cool: (I do wish they were offered in a darker gray or black though.... to match my Gucci bag)

You guys gotta stop makin me laugh, I had jaw surgery yesterday and it hurts to laugh...
If they aren't UGG worthy, how about birkenstocks? They come in all colors now, for the metro-hippie on the go.

[nfpgasmask]

The best part about me is, I can take the crap you all can dish out. Even Coastie's sarcastic reply (which still really made no sense with his sad attempt pic comparisons). Just remember, "RICE" is a personal state of mind. An aesthetic. I say po-tay-to, you say po-tah-to.

And you all know what.... those leather shift boots look even better 5 years later. STILL use 'em and they STILL look good! :cool: (I do wish they were offered in a darker gray or black though.... to match my Gucci bag)

Sorry to call you out like that, Wormy. But you know, with your statement I just couldn't help but jab you there! ;) You know I love your VX! (I still don't get the WHITE boots though...) :D :D :D

Seriously though, I'm the same way. I was CONSTANTLY made fun of as a kid (yes, my name rhymes with fart and it was not so much fun growing up with it, thanks to Bart Simpson my name is at least a little more "normal") and as a result I have a very thick hide. It's virtually impossible to offend me. :)

Bart

[WormGod]

In their defense, it's a BAD pic. The flash makes them look a lot more light than they really are. They are really very close to the gray on the seats. Doesn't appear that way in the pic though. Bad flash! Bad! And the ties are not there. The pic was taken when they were installed and the ties were docked and tucked away after. Still, 5 years later though, they are as swanky Studio 54 as ever. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=150TX5uJVCY

Back on topic though. Don't want to hijack this thread with my VX awesomeness. Feel free to start a Worm's Studio 54 Shift Boots thread. :p

[Gussie2000]

You all know what.... those leather shift boots look even better 5 years later. STILL use 'em and they STILL look good! :cool: (I do wish they were offered in a darker gray or black though.... to match my Gucci bag)[/QUOTE]

You can stamp some "FEAR THIS" decals on the boots

[pbkid]

(BTW...Large Rum & cokes go well with Ugg boots!)

JO

hmm....ill x2 on the rum and coke part....

dont think i could pull of the UGG look.

you may be the only one jo.

[JHarris1385]

Where are we at with this project????

[Gussie2000]

Where are we at with this project????


In costa rica ;)

[RallyDude]

I know this is old, but any updates?

I think it looks great, much better than what I would have thought it would look like. With the rack cargo basket, it's less noticeable. Without the rack basket, I don't know if I would care for it as much.

Now I assume most everyone knows what these are for on rally cars, but in case anyone was wondering... Rally's frequently take place in the deserts. You would never want to waste hp by turning on the A/C in a race, and you wouldn't want all the extra weight of the A/C unit anyway. So they often have pop-up scoops, not to be used as a snorkel, but to cool the driver and navigators. You pull a lot of air through one of those things.

I don't know how far you are planning on modding it, but the A/C delete would be a cheap one to do. You just would have to buy a smaller belt. Then just create a hole in the headliner, and have a window that drops down kind of like a pop-up sunroof, but installed upside down. I would think that you would only want to do this if you're extremely serious about starting to rally, and you were not using the VX for much else, or you live where it doesn't get too hot.

As far as subarus, it was the first year sti that everyone remembers as a ricer. They totally miscalculated their target market. The 2004 came with gold rims, and a ridiculous spoiler that was as high as the roof on the sedan. It did not come with a radio, and maybe not even AC? The huge air scoop fed the intercooler, so I don't have a problem with that, but overall, the thing was hideous. They are much more mainstream and without badging, it's hard to tell the sti's from the WRX's.

pbkid, if you are still looking for a subie, the best looking car they ever made, they made for Saab in both '05 & '06, but it was much more than badge engineering a WRX. The 9-2x looks more like a Saab than a Subaru. The Linear is the N/A model, and the Aero is the turbo. Plus you get some sti and saab goodies thrown in. It has the tight steering ratio of the sti, along with the 3 spoke sti steering wheel, plus a tighter tuned suspension. Being a saab, they upgraded the seats, head unit, headlights, foglights, climate control, active headrests and improved side airbags. Usually, you can find them cheaper than a WRX. It's a no-brainer. I like the '05 better as it has the 2.0 turbo, the same one that is in the current sti in Japan, and the motor they use for rallying. Americans didn't want to pay extra for a smaller turbo (N/A 2.5, for several thousand more you get an Aero with the 2.0 turbo) motor, so in '06 both the N/A and turbo motors were the 2.5. People tend to want the '06's more, but the '05 is the better way to go and they made a lot more of them. The motor spools up faster and is a better more reliable motor than the 2.5. You can drive it in boost all the time, so turbo lag is an issue you can avoid. It's cool to have such a rare vehicle, but on the other hand, have more aftermarket potential than probably any other car as all but body panels are interchangeable with the WRX. You can often find great deals on used upgrades, as people trade out and mod the WRX's so often. Police are aware of the WRX's, yet the 9-2x flies under the radar. Plus the people on saab92x.com are cool. Not as cool as this site, as people tend not to mod as much as on this site. Good people, just mostly not as active and addicted like this site.

I don't know why so many members here get so upset with so many mods. It's your car, why not let it reflect your personality? You certainly have the ambition, why not make it yours? (Just don't cut off the hi/lo stick, I have to admit, that mod bugged me a bit) Can you imagine how boring any of our meets would be if everyone kept their vehicle stock. All we would talk about would be fluids. Don't worry about what others say, although even critical reviews can sometimes spawn ideas.

And thank you very much for grouping all the rally VXs together. There was several that I never saw before. I don't think this whole thread should get a sticky, but the rally VX pics should be stickied. I'm surprised to see so many. It's wild when you think of that as a percentage of vehicles made, a lot of them hit the track. And no S/C's on the Rally vehicles? Wow, that means mine is faster than all of those. Were S/C's used on the Dakar race?

I'm curious, how did you finish this, and have you done some more modding?

[Luna X]

wow... who is "cutting off" their hi-lo stick? That sounds like hack work to me... Is THAT how you work on your machine?

I had asked a while back if someone knew hot to take the shifter off, and people say to start hacking away...... really?!?! So, for all the folks out there who supposedly have swapped their own engines, that's how you took the hi-lo shifter off?


I'd rather be informed than highly opinionated!!!

[RallyDude]

No, it's not me. Someone who doesn't wheel wanted to get rid of their hi/lo shifter to replace it with a cupholder. I know, I had to read that sentence over again too. I don't think he ever did it, but he wasn't going to cut it off, just dismantle that silly feature.

[WormGod]

Since this was brought back from the dead.... those boots STILL kick ***. :p

*crawls out through vent*

[Marlin]

Since this was brought back from the dead.... those boots STILL kick ***. :p

*crawls out through vent*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Do you think he still has the matching handbag, that is so last year.

[pbkid]

hmm... interesting info rallydude.

i wasnt aware that subaru and saab were so closely related. i know there their vehicles look similar but i just thought that most sedan's kinda look like that haha ;)

i kinda like the availability of parts of the WRX thought, after owning the VX i learned an important lesson that your daily driver MUST have good availability of parts... as a second car its fine to have something really rare, but i prefer something more mainstream for my DD (like my current 4runner)...

good idea if i get one for my secondary car though! thanks! :_beer:

[WormGod]

Yep, Sube and Saab WERE an item. Thus the term Saabaru, heh. Just about any track or show meets you go to that are Subaru oriented, you will see a handful of nice Saabs as well. It was a short lived "under-my-wing" relationship, but Saab got a pretty solid end of the engineering from Sube. Not sure how much continues to be adopted.

No, handbag is trash now. Cut it up to make matching CV boots. :P

[RallyDude]

Sorry about jacking the thread again, but I wanted to get some info to pbkid, and thought others may gain as well.

Subaru and Saab have no connection other than the 9-2x model, which was literally forced down Saab's throat. At that time, GM owned Saab, and owned 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries, the parent company of Subaru. Saab wanted to bring a small AWD vehicle to market, and GM decided that they could do it much faster if they modified an existing vehicle, rather than start designing from concept. Other than typical badge engineering, where truly the only difference is the badges, they really heavily upgraded an already competent vehicle. People who wanted a Saab, wanted a Saab, and people wanting a Subaru, wanted it to say Subaru, so initial sales were poor, until GM gave up and offered 5k rebates on the model, and they all sold within a few months. With all the extras in the 9-2x, after the rebate, it was cheaper than the WRX, so the informed buyer was excited to get the Saabaru. Bluebook used still shows the 9-2x cheaper than the WRX, what a bargain. Body panels are more expensive, but the rest of the parts are all shared with Subaru.

The 9-2x upgrades were designed in Sweden, and like the WRX, made in Japan. There were similarities in companies as they both started as aircraft engine manufacturers, but this model was all up to GM. Subaru ended up copying a lot of the Saab design elements in later model Subarus, so I think the current Subaru lineup was heavily influenced by the 9-2x. Saab was a bit embarrassed offering a Japanese vehicle, when their target market was/is expensive European autos.

If you drive a fast Subie, you'll really appreciate it. Although they are heavy, they don't feel heavy. The boxer motor keeps the weight very low, even if it has a higher ground clearance. If you drive them on twisty roads, that's where they really shine. They're fun, but no wheeling. That's why I think Subaru should have considered taking over Isuzu, as they only produce AWD vehicles, but no true 4WD vehicles; it would have been a great merger, and could have given Jeep a run for their money. For much more info, see www.saab92x.com. No snobs on that site either.

[WormGod]

That's why I think Subaru should have considered taking over Isuzu, as they only produce AWD vehicles, but no true 4WD vehicles; it would have been a great merger, and could have given Jeep a run for their money.

I had said this since ISUZU dropped off the US radar. It was wishful thinking, but Subaru could have been a contender in the small SUV market as well. And who knows.... adopting some of the Sube tech, anything could have been possible. Imagine.... the Tribeca could have been the next ISUZU, heh.

[Gussie2000]

I believe that an Isuzu/Subaru team work could have good results having in consideration both manufacturer's background.

I did read somewhere that isuzu and toyota was on some join venture designing some small turbo diesel car that toyota is looking to introduce in couple of years from now.

Only someone currently working within isuzu's executive enviroment can tell if isuzu got any plans to make a comeback to US market.

[RallyDude]

I think with the absence of being in the market, the economy, global warming, SUV market dwindling, high gas prices with the constant threat of even going much higher; I would be shocked if Isuzu re-entered the US market. We are much more likely to see rebadged Isuzu's that may sell as toyotas, jeeps, subarus, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see them return, but even Jeep doesn't sell all 4wd vehicles anymore. You mention the name Hummer, and people cringe from lack of being green.

[JHarris1385]

Global warming...? You don't say.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gh19/b1510/f2004.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gh19/b1510/histear.htm&usg=__5rasKM6ITU4FAUouZTNa2sqJHDg=&h=623&w=432&sz=48&hl=en&start=0&sig2=wxJ0Hp972bjPKDMFBH62uw&zoom=1&tbnid=RdWBQTfsk4Zh_M:&tbnh=171&tbnw=119&ei=SNimTPGSK4L68AaNuJ39DA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dearth%2527s%2Btemperature%2Bhistory%2 6um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D68 5%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=387&vpy=94&dur=4961&hovh=270&hovw=187&tx=83&ty=139&oei=1demTNrJH8OclgfFsey3DA&esq=7&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

Its life on earth. We have had an impact as such did everything before us did, with their own use and methane. Not to get in a political debate but omit the global warming and you are good. Its science plain and simple.