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SomeBeach
05/25/2009, 08:02 AM
Okay, I've searched the site pretty good and couldn't find information on what the Moab trip involves. Can you give me information. Do members camp out or stay in hotels? How rough are the trails for those of us that don't want to mess up our VX. Will a stock VX do okay? Can we have a campfire? Anything you can give me will be great. I'm new to the group and very interested in events like this.
THANKS

vt_maverick
05/25/2009, 08:34 AM
Why is there a poll here?

Dougie, looks like you're just over the water from me in Chesapeake. We should get together sometime...

don moore
05/25/2009, 08:59 AM
use the SEARCH on the top tool bar them type in MOAB . i think you will find a wealth of info. on this subject...... WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF VX.

VX KAT
05/25/2009, 10:11 AM
As a 1st timer that just came back from Moab in a stock VX, I can give some impressions.
Oh, my tires were 255/55-18.

1) Many stayed at a certain motel there in town, (Red Rock Lodge)where we had some social get togethers in the parking lot

2) Several camped at different campgrounds either in tent or RV. Mostly Portal RV park. We also had one evening get-together-BBQ at the Portal RV park pavillion.

3) Moab has several different difficulty level trails, to say the least. Todd Adams , our trail leader, took us on Fins&Things on Monday as kind of an into but also because it's short, took maybe 90 mins or so. It's listed as a "D" in the trail books, but I managed everything on it OK.

4) I didn't make the Tuesday "VX only run" as I was too pooped, but from the pictures, it had several parts that were more difficult than I would have been able to handle (stock and not lifted). It was about 9+ hrs long.

5) By Wednesday, the group kind of splinted into 3 groups, some of us went with Todd again, the other two groups selected their own trails, which were much more difficult. Todd took us on Hell's Revenge (again listed as "D") and I handled it too, but did incur lots of undercarriage scrapping, but no problem because Ldub had installed a transfer case skid plate for me that am and it was MOST used on this trail. Must have one of them. Again, because I'm not lifted (and won't be in the future either), and the skid plate hangs down about 1", I scrapped the skid plate quite a bit.

6) The remaining couple of days some groups formed and went on different trails, most went on more challenging trails because they were equipped and experienced.

Since most there were lifted (to various degrees), most would not have incurred the stuff I scraped up. I don't mind since it's all on the bottom, not easily visible.
~I had a front bull bar, which is highly a stupid idea for Moab I've decided, as it did get scraped up and lower tubes got kind of flattened a bit. Nothing visible, all on the bottom.
~My rear LOWER most part of cladding near the exhaust pipe got some scrapes.
~My tail pipe got slightly reshaped (from one scrape)
~The OEM plate that covers gas tank at rear got some scrapes.
~Most of this all was from the Hell's Revenge really rocky part of the trail.
~On Monday's short run I took a 1" chunk out of the lip of a front rim...don't even know how. So you should do want several did and buy trail rims & tires, don't use the OEM chrome ones like I did.
Not a scratch on my paint or anything and it was a total blast, great great fun!
You must give it a try!! It's that much fun!

Hope this gives you some overview!

handeeman
05/25/2009, 10:40 AM
Kat, thank you for the run down on Moab. Me being stock too I kindda wondered how bad it would be ? I think I may buy another one and trail rig it just for a Moab run like the "Big Boys". Ya know, lifted , full skid plates, supercharged, with the right wheels and tires. At least I can dream! lol

rowhard
05/25/2009, 10:47 AM
Oh, my tires are a tad bigger than OEM at 255/55-18


Actually Sue, your tires are 6 tenths of a inch shorter then the stock tire

VX KAT
05/25/2009, 10:57 AM
The rocky part here was by far the most challenging for my stocker, but still no problem!
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3229/DSC_0339_2_2_2.JPG
Here I'm hung up and wobbling on my skid plate!
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/3229/09MoabDay3HellsRevenge003_3.jpg
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I didn't even try this one, and Marlin here didn't make it on this approach, he took a different line to the right and did make it up
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VX KAT
05/25/2009, 11:02 AM
Actually Sue, your tires are 6 tenths of a inch shorter then the stock tire

shorter as in O.D.? Then that's even more reason I scraped on stuff! That does it, I'm ordering those new tires tomorrow! I've decided on Cooper Zeon LTZs in 285/60-18.....that'll raise me up just a tad......now I'll be ready for Moab next year!

Scott Harness
05/25/2009, 11:53 AM
It looks like I'm about to get in Jim's lap in that Trooper shot:eek:

SomeBeach
05/25/2009, 12:35 PM
WOW! you guys are really off roading. The pictures were great...thanks. Looks a little rough for me. I think I'll stick to driving on the beach

SomeBeach
05/25/2009, 12:38 PM
Why is there a poll here?

Dougie, looks like you're just over the water from me in Chesapeake. We should get together sometime...

Hey Maverick I'd like to get together. These vehicles are tough to find around here. Wish we could get a few and do a beach trip down to Corolla.

Ldub
05/25/2009, 01:55 PM
Way to go KAT, now ya done went & scared Dougie...:eekgray:
Thanks for taking the time to post your pics vertically, I appreciate not having to side scroll on my puny little "Flintstone" monitor...:thumbup:


WOW! you guys are really off roading. The pictures were great...thanks. Looks a little rough for me. I think I'll stick to driving on the beach

It really isn't as bad as it looks...:naughty:, If you stay on the milder trails, you will most likely come through unscathed. There are spotters, willing & at the ready, on every obstacle, no one wants to see carnage.
Even if you show up & just ride shotgun, the experience, IMO, would be worth the effort.

MSHardeman
05/25/2009, 02:42 PM
Dougie, I'm with Dub, the Moab experience is well worth the trip out there even if it's just for the company. My first three years out in Moab I was stock height (with some taller tires) and as long as you take your time, pick the right line, and listen to your spotters you should come out just fine. I DID hit my Trooper skid plate once or twice, and the gas tank skid plate a couple of times, but nothing serious. That's what the skid plates are there for anyway.

VX KAT
05/25/2009, 03:04 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post your pics vertically, I appreciate not having to side scroll on my puny little "Flintstone" monitor...:thumbup:

See Fred, I can learnt 2! :bgwp:

Ldub
05/25/2009, 03:07 PM
See Fred, I can learnt 2! :bgwp:

:laughgray...:laughgray...:laughgray

:thumbup:...You're the best!

Triathlete
05/25/2009, 03:56 PM
WOW! you guys are really off roading. The pictures were great...thanks. Looks a little rough for me. I think I'll stick to driving on the beach

We play at the "beach" while in Moab also...

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/Triathlete/09moab%20day%204/09Moabday4077.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/Triathlete/09moab%20day%204/09Moabday4078.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/Triathlete/09moab%20day%204/09Moabday4079.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/Triathlete/09moab%20day%204/09Moabday4080.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/Triathlete/09moab%20day%204/09Moabday4081.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/Triathlete/09moab%20day%204/09Moabday4082.jpg

...there just wasn't much water!:bwgr::bgwp::bgwo::bgwg:

pbkid
05/25/2009, 06:12 PM
dougie...
my first year in moab i was COMPLETELY stock and had bald, stock tires...
you do scrape a little here and there but it is nothing major...

one thing that no one has said is that todd is a professional spotter for his wife linda and does a GREAT job with the VX guys. if you tell him that you want to take the easier route and not scrape he will try his best (and usually suceeds) to get you over easily..

just some food for thought.

ps- there are always shotgun seats open in multiple rigs, so thats an option too

rowhard
05/25/2009, 07:12 PM
dougie...
my first year in moab i was COMPLETELY stock and had bald, stock tires...
you do scrape a little here and there but it is nothing major...

one thing that no one has said is that todd is a professional spotter for his wife linda and does a GREAT job with the VX guys. if you tell him that you want to take the easier route and not scrape he will try his best (and usually suceeds) to get you over easily..

just some food for thought.

ps- there are always shotgun seats open in multiple rigs, so thats an option too

I'll second that, Todd is magic,.... and very patient

vt_maverick
05/25/2009, 07:28 PM
Hey Maverick I'd like to get together. These vehicles are tough to find around here. Wish we could get a few and do a beach trip down to Corolla.

No doubt, and there's a few of us in the area (jdm_monkey's down in Va Beach, for one). I've been out on the beach at OBX a lot over the last year, but I tend to shy away from the northern beaches (just too many damn tourists). The lower part of Hatteras island has some pretty significant trails that cut back and forth across the cape that are pretty fun. Nothing challenging, just narrow, sharply banked blind curves through tall grasses next to tidal marshes and the ocean. Absolutely gorgeous.

I don't have the LV to go out there during the week, but I'm game for a weekend trip this summer if we can get some interest. Maybe we could talk tom4bren into coming down (nudge nudge Tom). ;)

Jolly Roger VX'er
05/25/2009, 11:50 PM
It is a non-nuclear, highest T-N-T conventional bomb developed by the military that is dropped from a cargo plane.

M.O.A.B.= Mother Of All Bombs :p

tom4bren
05/27/2009, 12:12 PM
"I don't have the LV to go out there during the week, but I'm game for a weekend trip this summer if we can get some interest. Maybe we could talk tom4bren into coming down (nudge nudge Tom)."

I'd be there in a heartbeat. Just have to schedule around other trips & HoneyDo's. We're going to Niagara Falls in July & still have to schedule a trip to Tennessee & Alabama for family time this summer.

But ...

Y'all need a nudge to come to Fredericksburg to go SeaDoo'in this summer too.

Gussie2000
05/27/2009, 12:49 PM
It is a non-nuclear, highest T-N-T conventional bomb developed by the military that is dropped from a cargo plane.

M.O.A.B.= Mother Of All Bombs :p

Jejeje well done

don moore
05/27/2009, 10:36 PM
It is a non-nuclear, highest T-N-T conventional bomb developed by the military that is dropped from a cargo plane.

M.O.A.B.= Mother Of All Bombs :p
..yup thats it
http://www.tonyrogers.com/weapons/moab.htm

rowhard
05/27/2009, 10:59 PM
You know, I see these photos of Marlin this year at Moab, and I really think he had more fun then the law allowed. Hope he can afford to do it again next year so I can try a challenge coin on him.:)

Triathlete
05/28/2009, 03:50 PM
Challenge coins?:naughty: I'll be there!