RC Rock Crawlers

[crotchrocket]

Anyone got one?? I've been looking around for one of these, look like fun!!!! Some are damn expensive though. No idea what one to go for but i prefer the 'scaler' models to the all out rock crawlers. THis one is on ebay and its awesome but a bit too expensive

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=220495113269&Category=2565&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2


These are reaslonable and a bit smaller for indoor use
http://www.speedymodels.com/ab0222---team-losi-mini-rock-crawler-rtr-1256-p.asp


Or somewhere inbetween

http://www.southwatercycles.com/products.php?plid=m38b213s371p4022&rs=gb

[Riff Raff]

Nope, sorry Crotchrocket-- we gave up those toys when we got a real driver's license and a real VX. Leave those RC-toys to the kids. If you become a Father one day; then yes, it might be a good way to "bond" with your son. Until that happens, leave 'em.:bgwb:

[crotchrocket]

lol,

* runs crying to the bathroom and locks himself in........

[handeeman]

Aw, come back out "crotchcrocket" you've got a big boy's toy to play with (remember evryone, family friendly now ). Besides save your money for the move to America and the steering wheel correction mod.
Oh and we don't eat carp over here, so you can have all you want.

[crotchrocket]

lol, me neither!! Not to keen on boney mud tasting fish, its just for the hell of it really (and the massive breakfast). Think i'd use the money on those air horns instead anyway mwahahaha !

[rowhard]

Aw, come back out "crotchcrocket" you've got a big boy's toy to play with

remember, the only difference between a boy and a man is the size and cost of his toys:) And just last week I saw two grown men playing with one of those on the top of a rock retainer wall at the mall, looked like a blast, wanted to park my bus and check it out.

[crotchrocket]

remember, the only difference between a boy and a man is the size and cost of his toys:) And just last week I saw two grown men playing with one of those on the top of a rock retainer wall at the mall, looked like a blast, wanted to park my bus and check it out.

So your recomending the first one :naughty: :naughty: !!!

[don moore]

i like the 3rd one...... the first is used and needs repairs.....

[LittleBeast]

I had a 4 wheel drive/steer 5 horse power RC truck called a CEN Nemesis, it was awesome, but that is the quickest way to flush money down the toilet in my opinion. "Oh I will just get a couple of parts for it here and there", and soon you realize that you have bought 50 parts at $20 each and you are out $1000 just on maintenance, and upgrades, I would rather buy some new tires for the VX, just my personal experience :)

[Triathlete]

Might find some usefull info/reading here (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=107). Some of these guys have some crazy set ups...functioning winches, front and rear selectable lockers, multi speed transfer cases...;eeky; Just like the real thing...only smaller! They also have competitions where they set up courses and score them just like the "big" comps.

[ZEUS]

Mr. Rocket - I have 4 crawlers. (You'll probably need to open an account on rccrawler.com to view most of these pics...)
1 - 1.9 VX 1/10 scale hard body TLT-1 (Work in progress because the guy who sold me the VX body lied about it's dimensions. I started an exo-cage and then moved on to my 2.2 crawler. No pics yet.)
2 - 2.2 HPI Wheely King (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61680)tuber of my own design using 3/16" brake line as the cage - Works pretty well for a scaler actually!
3 - 3.2 Kyosho Mad Force (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120573)(Rock N' Rat Rod) (Using a drill motor with a 2-speed planetary trans switched by a servo. Also work in progress.)
4 - 40-Series CEN Nemesis Super Class (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39526) (all aluminum with a wacky gizmoiness concept - stopped when I went over $1000 in parts.)

Here is the craziest crawler I think I have ever seen: Intense (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82803)

rccrawler.com is the big site - but there are others to peruse. We have two local sites here in Utah. There are some UK sites I believe as well. Check out these vendors:
http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/
http://rcpcrawlers.com/home.php
http://www.montanascaledesigns.com/shop/index.php
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/

I think most ship over seas...

The best bang for the buck, IMO, is the Venom Creeper (http://www.venom-group.com/storeitems.asp?section=Land&cc=MODEL_ROCK)

[rowhard]

Here is the craziest crawler I think I have ever seen: Intense (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82803)

I don't even what to think what he has into it in time alone, WOW

[Riff Raff]

Holy Cow, the hobby of RC-Toys can get frickin' outa-hand really quick!!! Just like Little Beast said-- a damn money pit to throw away wasted money. As a grown man, I've got better things to spend my money on. No thanx.:noo:

[VX-157]

I fly RC planes...or i should say i attached my credit card to a electric motor and then crash it into the ground from a very high altitude :upsetgray

i would love to get a good rc car to play in the park at the back of my house! :bgwo:

[don moore]

i have 4 planes ..all electric.. and 3 1/6th scale r/c tanks..had one used in the movie that im in ..i want a r/c VX

[rickshaw]

..i want a r/c VX

Here is a GAS powered RC VX for you.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_boxtop_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_side2_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_side_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_back_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/GasRCVX.jpg

Hobby-estore (http://www.hobby-estore.com/smartech-10342-gas-rc-truck.html)
Excel Hobby (http://www.excelhobby.com/excel_hobby_004.htm)

[VX-157]

OMFG....MINE!

[alterastro]

Hey an RC VX - Cool!

I had a couple of Rock Crawlers James - they are great fun and modifying them can be as involved as the real thing!

I got loads of info at the UKRCRC forum - they were very helpful when I was starting out - http://www.ukrcrc.com/site/

The HPI one sounds good, but it looks like it goes a bit fast - and therefore not the best gearing/motor, but certainly a good start :winko:

Nick

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2360sm.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2359sm.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2356sm.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2361sm.jpg

[crotchrocket]

Mr. Rocket - I have 4 crawlers. (You'll probably need to open an account on rccrawler.com to view most of these pics...)
1 - 1.9 VX 1/10 scale hard body TLT-1 (Work in progress because the guy who sold me the VX body lied about it's dimensions. I started an exo-cage and then moved on to my 2.2 crawler. No pics yet.)
2 - 2.2 HPI Wheely King (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61680)tuber of my own design using 3/16" brake line as the cage - Works pretty well for a scaler actually!
3 - 3.2 Kyosho Mad Force (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120573)(Rock N' Rat Rod) (Using a drill motor with a 2-speed planetary trans switched by a servo. Also work in progress.)
4 - 40-Series CEN Nemesis Super Class (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39526) (all aluminum with a wacky gizmoiness concept - stopped when I went over $1000 in parts.)

Here is the craziest crawler I think I have ever seen: Intense (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82803)

rccrawler.com is the big site - but there are others to peruse. We have two local sites here in Utah. There are some UK sites I believe as well. Check out these vendors:
http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/
http://rcpcrawlers.com/home.php
http://www.montanascaledesigns.com/shop/index.php
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/

I think most ship over seas...

The best bang for the buck, IMO, is the Venom Creeper (http://www.venom-group.com/storeitems.asp?section=Land&cc=MODEL_ROCK)

Wow that was an awesome build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction too!!!! i still think these look like fun! but they are the cost of actually repairing mu AC Compressor !! :D

[crotchrocket]

Hey an RC VX - Cool!

I had a couple of Rock Crawlers James - they are great fun and modifying them can be as involved as the real thing!

I got loads of info at the UKRCRC forum - they were very helpful when I was starting out - http://www.ukrcrc.com/site/

The HPI one sounds good, but it looks like it goes a bit fast - and therefore not the best gearing/motor, but certainly a good start :winko:

Nick

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2360sm.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2359sm.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2356sm.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/SANY2361sm.jpg

Nick that looks awesome, do you think the Tamiya one is good value???

[ZEUS]

Here is a GAS powered RC VX for you.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_boxtop_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_side2_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_side_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/33gasrcvx_back_600.jpg
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh322/rickshaw_VX/Other/GasRCVX.jpg

Hobby-estore (http://www.hobby-estore.com/smartech-10342-gas-rc-truck.html)
Excel Hobby (http://www.excelhobby.com/excel_hobby_004.htm)I tried so hard to get one of those bodies! I searched all over and finally ordered one from a shop in Netherlands for $40 or so. I received a BMW Z3 - broken. They never returned my money or sent me the VX body or any response. Another guy contacted me from rccrawler regarding VX stuff and he thought he found a supplier to ship us several so I ordered 3 - luckily we never exchanged money cuz I never heard from him again. The Smartech Rocke has been out of production for years so be careful of online shops that claim they still carry it or you might end up like me with a broken BMW.

[alterastro]

Nick that looks awesome, do you think the Tamiya one is good value???

Its a great starting point, and you'll end up modding it :yesgray:

Have a look at some of my posts on the forum of the website I mentioned. I asked some basic questions when I was starting out and you may find them helpful. They also have a 'for sale' section.

Nick :winky:

[ZEUS]

Hey an RC VX - Cool!

The HPI one sounds good, but it looks like it goes a bit fast - and therefore not the best gearing/motor, but certainly a good start :winko:

Nick
The HPI come in several forms - a 2wd Wheely King, the 4wd version, the Crawler King (also 4wd) and now the new Nitro 2wd version. The stock axle shafts are weak and end up breaking quite a bit. There is a slipper clutch in the trans but it doesn't always save the axles. To really crawl with the HPI you need to upgrade to CVD's (constant velocity drives) and straight axles for increased steering angle and greater overall strength. The axle housings can also flex which can strip your ring and pinion. It is best to drill thru the housing and clamp bolt it back together and also step up to RS4 or Savage hardened gears in the HPI's. They don't steer very sharp at all so most use aluminum "C's" and knuckles for greater steering throw. Plus the axles are a bit too wide for 2.2 size wheels. So now the HPI doesn't seem so good after you realize the weak points in the axles, right? Also beware, all RTR or RTC crawlers come with near-inferior motors and electronics. The Losi Mini Crawler comes with an FM radio which is quite nice and the electronics are pretty decent as well but they can still be improved.

So since I have an HPI, I would say you can start out better with either an Axial AX-10 type crawler (scaler or comp rig setups available) or the Venom Creeper. The market is most dominated by the Axial so you can consider it the Jeep of the RC crawler world - maybe that analogy only applies to this side of the pond. :confused: The Losi is tiny and cute but you can throw some rocks down in your yard and have a constantly changing area to crawl with it. I made my own crawl spot for my crawlers in my back yard by bringing in large (some 20 to 80 lb) rocks and forming my fire pit within the crawler course. My hope is to integrate a putting golf course with astro turf to also act as my patio around it and bring everything together. I also have hopes to install a water feature to tie into it all as well.

I find RC crawling WAAAAY fun and several of my friends are jumping aboard making it even more fun. Competitions are held all over Utah (even the international event that pays cash) so it has moved past the simple little boy's toys over the last several years and people have formed careers revolving around it.

So Mr. Rocket - hurry up and move to Utah so we can start our drafting firm and RC crawler parts business! :bgwo:

[crotchrocket]

The HPI come in several forms - a 2wd Wheely King, the 4wd version, the Crawler King (also 4wd) and now the new Nitro 2wd version. The stock axle shafts are weak and end up breaking quite a bit. There is a slipper clutch in the trans but it doesn't always save the axles. To really crawl with the HPI you need to upgrade to CVD's (constant velocity drives) and straight axles for increased steering angle and greater overall strength. The axle housings can also flex which can strip your ring and pinion. It is best to drill thru the housing and clamp bolt it back together and also step up to RS4 or Savage hardened gears in the HPI's. They don't steer very sharp at all so most use aluminum "C's" and knuckles for greater steering throw. Plus the axles are a bit too wide for 2.2 size wheels. So now the HPI doesn't seem so good after you realize the weak points in the axles, right? Also beware, all RTR or RTC crawlers come with near-inferior motors and electronics. The Losi Mini Crawler comes with an FM radio which is quite nice and the electronics are pretty decent as well but they can still be improved.

So since I have an HPI, I would say you can start out better with either an Axial AX-10 type crawler (scaler or comp rig setups available) or the Venom Creeper. The market is most dominated by the Axial so you can consider it the Jeep of the RC crawler world - maybe that analogy only applies to this side of the pond. :confused: The Losi is tiny and cute but you can throw some rocks down in your yard and have a constantly changing area to crawl with it. I made my own crawl spot for my crawlers in my back yard by bringing in large (some 20 to 80 lb) rocks and forming my fire pit within the crawler course. My hope is to integrate a putting golf course with astro turf to also act as my patio around it and bring everything together. I also have hopes to install a water feature to tie into it all as well.

I find RC crawling WAAAAY fun and several of my friends are jumping aboard making it even more fun. Competitions are held all over Utah (even the international event that pays cash) so it has moved past the simple little boy's toys over the last several years and people have formed careers revolving around it.

So Mr. Rocket - hurry up and move to Utah so we can start our drafting firm and RC crawler parts business! :bgwo:

This is sounding better by the minute!!!! Utah here we come!!!! (hey were starting to pick up at work fyi!! thank goodness) THanks for all that info! claires going to cut my nuts off if i spent 370 quid on a 'toy truck' lol

What do you think of the tuned up Tamiya thats on ebay, it ends tomorrow and theres only one low bid still that doesnt meet the reserve. Maybe people know something i dont?? Its at 200 (my pound sign key doesnt work) at the moment and buy it now is 350. The Tamiya kit is 320 at least plus 200-250 of radio gear plus 200 of hop-up parts. seams fairly reasonable to me?? and all the parts that could go (gears, drive shafts etc) have been changed to aluminium.

[Triathlete]

I like that Venom...looks like a solid platform for a beginner and all said and done is fairly inexpensive. Might have to put one of those on my "in the future want" list.

[ZEUS]

This is sounding better by the minute!!!! Utah here we come!!!! (hey were starting to pick up at work fyi!! thank goodness) THanks for all that info! claires going to cut my nuts off if i spent 370 quid on a 'toy truck' lol

What do you think of the tuned up Tamiya thats on ebay, it ends tomorrow and theres only one low bid still that doesnt meet the reserve. Maybe people know something i dont?? Its at 200 (my pound sign key doesnt work) at the moment and buy it now is 350. The Tamiya kit is 320 at least plus 200-250 of radio gear plus 200 of hop-up parts. seams fairly reasonable to me?? and all the parts that could go (gears, drive shafts etc) have been changed to aluminium.

Excuse my ignorance on the currency, it makes it hard to figure out what you are actually spending, but I think the Buy It Now price is $575 and if so, that is a fair price! It's a high cost but a fair price for all the goodies! So for less than $600 you could have everything in the auction... or:
Venom Creeper kit or Axial AX10 kit - $150
Full Spectrum Radio (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXWPW0&P=0) $80
Motor and Speed Control (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUTM6&P=ML) $115
Battery $50 +/-
Charger $50 +/-
Hi Torque Steering Servo $50 +/- (x2?)

$550 = $25 difference

Honestly, you have to ask yourself what you think you would provide more fun within your area and terrain. If you have a bunch of places full of boulders a Venom would be very entertaining but a scaler would need to go elsewhere, most likely. The Tamiya is going to be heavy and it will struggle to pull itself up walls and such... basically, the Tamiya is set up to be a trail rig, the tires that are on it are suited to trails, the weight of the chassis keeps it away from steep climbs, the body has lights on it which makes night trail runs really fun.

The Venom or Axial is much lighter, the trans of the Axial is tiny therefore minimizing extra weight up high. The Venom or Axial will scale things that would blow your mind partially becuase of the softer tires but mainly becuase of low weight. The more you gear up a crawler to be a scaler or a bling king the less performance you get out of it. Have fun!

[alterastro]

James I didn't mention the eBay one you found because I thought you thought it was too much, but for all the goodies I think it's good value even at £350. You'll probably be able to get it for less if there is only one other bidder.

I paid close to that for my Crawler with 2 body shells and some bits and this one seems even better.

I'd say if you can afford it, go for it!

Nick

[crotchrocket]

Look what i got, DONT TELL THE BOSS LADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Looks cool dont you think? some guy built it and never really used it, so put it up for sale. All the winch etc works

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/crotchrocket3000/normal__ADG0534_1513.jpg


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/crotchrocket3000/normal__ADG0537_1516.jpg



http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/crotchrocket3000/normal_new_rc_pics_025.jpg

[Ldub]

DOOD...:thumbup:

[samneil2000]

That is awesome! Now you have something to wheel in while the VX gets repaired. :yesb:

[ZEUS]

Nice choice! An Axial scaler is the best of both worlds... post some vids when you take it out!

[alterastro]

Excellent James :grino: Enjoy!!!!!

[Daver]

That is pretty sweet. :) Last year I was trying to buy a real K5, but settled on a NNBS Z71 Tahoe instead.

For my R/C Crawler I put a nice '72 C10 body on my AX10. We'll see if I ever get to buy a real one of those... Still working on the NewBright JK body for my SCX10.

R/C really is a money pit of a hobby, but still much cheaper than real cars. :D

-Daver

[crotchrocket]

I already spent £20 on some new springs, lol!! i managed to get a tire mark on my girlfriends face while she was on the sofa the other night and it nearly got chucked out the window :D lol but its pretty cool!!

[samneil2000]

i managed to get a tire mark on my girlfriends face while she was on the sofa the other night and it nearly got chucked out the window :D lol but its pretty cool!!

Pictures or it didn't happen :bgwb:

I'm glad you're still breathing after that though. Ha

[crotchrocket]

Winch works too :D

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/crotchrocket3000/IMG00055-20100809-1850.jpg