Another ABS light

[JAMAS]

I just started the VX and the ABS light stayed on.

Crap Crap Crap Crap


hopefully its a sensor or something.

otherwise........

does anyone have an ABS Module for sale?

[dgl82182]

look for a 98-02 trooper its the same one just made in japan not germany

[JAMAS]

Thanks for the heads up.

I knew about the 98-02 trooper part sharing, but I did not know the origin of manufacture.

Assuming its the ABS module, I went ahead and tracked down an abs module from a '99 VX.

It's sitting at my feet right now, for $150. Sure beats the $2,700 ($2,400 from Merlin) that I would pay for new.

I have an appointment on Saturday for my mechanic to grab the code and see if in fact it is my module.

[handeeman]

I've now had my ABS light come on and go off twice in the last few days. Course the fist time it happened it was after I had driven it in a total downpour it came on the next morning. It went out after it had sat for about 2 hrs. Then it came back on yesterday and went back out after sitting about 4 hours. Not on this morning. Big rains in Orlando as I type.

[JAMAS]

I've now had my ABS light come on and go off twice in the last few days. Course the fist time it happened it was after I had driven it in a total downpour it came on the next morning. It went out after it had sat for about 2 hrs. Then it came back on yesterday and went back out after sitting about 4 hours. Not on this morning. Big rains in Orlando as I type.

yeah...that's kinda what mine has been doing.

[hxdiaz]

My ABS light has been off and on for the last year or so. Not sure what to make of it other than neither of my grandfathers had ABS.

[mrtew]

Nobody has ever checked out my truck and said, "Nice ABS dude".

[VX crazy]

Glad this came up again, we were just talking about this last night and wondered if the module was the same as the trooper......could you read of the # on the module from the troooper and see if its the same # for the vx?

[handeeman]

Jamas did you ever make the switch to the replacement ABS module ? Did the light go out ?

[nfpgasmask]

Fark the ABS! Who needs it?

:D Bart

[JAMAS]

Jamas did you ever make the switch to the replacement ABS module ? Did the light go out ?

I got the code checked to make sure I wasn't wasting my time. It appears the module will correct the problem. As long as the one I got from the scrap yard works.

However, since the only true "problem" is that the ABS light is on I have disregarded it until I have more time. I will hopefully install the part soon, but most likely in the spring.

[handeeman]

Haven't done anything to mine yet. It still goes off for a while then comes back on. Oh well.

[tom4bren]

Dang. Is my title as 'King Procrastinator' in danger of being stolen???

[handeeman]

Dang. Is my title as 'King Procrastinator' in danger of being stolen???

That's between you and Jamas. Cause when my light comes on (ABS), I'm gonna fix it and when it goes out, I've fixed it.

[tom4bren]

That's between you and Jamas. Cause when my light comes on (ABS), I'm gonna fix it and when it goes out, I've fixed it.

Sounds familiar. That's the method I use with the TOD check light.

[mrtew]

I can't get my ABS light to go off. I bent the pin and pulled the fuse and it stayed on. How do you turn the ABS light off (without fixing replacing the module)

[deermagnet]

I bent the pin and pulled the fuse and it stayed on.
Are you sure you bent the right pin? Middle row, the small one in the center next to the first large one. The connector has to be plugged in and seated properly also for the light to stay off.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/7.jpg

Mark

[don moore]

how about removing the ABS dash bulb?

[mrtew]

Are you sure you bent the right pin? Middle row, the small one in the center next to the first large one. The connector has to be plugged in and seated properly also for the light to stay off.
Mark

I'm pretty sure I bent the right one but to me that photo looks upside down so I'm not sure. Mine looked more like this.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6788/7uph.jpg

[digital_will]

So, my ABS light has been on for about a year or so. It's been pretty cold here in MD lately and I notice that when I go out to the car in the morning, the ABS light is off. Hit the brakes hard and sure enough the abs is pumping the brakes like a champ but after a bit of driving the ABS light is back on and not working. Not sure what that means just yet, maybe the cold weather constricts something that allows a circuit to be completed but once it warms up it expands and fails.

[JAMAS]

So, my ABS light has been on for about a year or so. It's been pretty cold here in MD lately and I notice that when I go out to the car in the morning, the ABS light is off. Hit the brakes hard and sure enough the abs is pumping the brakes like a champ but after a bit of driving the ABS light is back on and not working. Not sure what that means just yet, maybe the cold weather constricts something that allows a circuit to be completed but once it warms up it expands and fails.

I believe its a solenoid that fails in one of the pumps ...or whatever.... it works for a short period of time until it fails....

[deermagnet]

I'm pretty sure I bent the right one but to me that photo looks upside down so I'm not sure.

Yeah, that was a couple years ago and I just remembered I flipped the pin photo so it would jive with the connector diagram.
http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/3.gif
http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/7.jpg

I shouda flipped the diagram and not the photo. The original diagram is when you're looking at the connector, not the module.
http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/3flip.gif
http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/7flip.jpg

I changed it in the how-to so as not to confuse anyone.

Mark

[mrtew]

http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/3flip.gif
http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/image/image4/7flip.jpg
Mark

Cool, is there anything else you have to do besides bend the pin down and plug it back in (that's really hard by the way.... you have to pull out a slide from the right side as you unplug it and push the slide back in AS you plug it back in I found out; someone could have mentioned that!!!). Mine is still on!

[deermagnet]

As long as you bend the proper pin and push the slide as you plug it back in, the light should stay out. If the wrong pin is bent, straighten it out. There must be a system that turns on the light if the connector is unplugged to warn you about that. If any other pins are bent in addition to #16 it may signal a connector issue and keep the light on. Even with the #16 pin bent, the plug must be seated firmly with the slide pushed back in or the light will stay on.

The bent pin alone will not disable the ABS. It just simply keeps the light off. An intermittent ABS problem could still trigger the ABS unexpectedly. Removing the ABS fuse will disable the ABS entirely. Removing the fuse alone will disable the ABS, but keep the light on. Bending the #16 pin, plugging the connector in properly, and removing the ABS fuse will mean no ABS and no ABS light forever. Enjoy.

Mark

[mrtew]

My light is still on and it's bugging me more every day. Here's pictures of it and of my bent pin and another with the pin with tape over it to make absolutely sure that it's not making contact. And yet the light is still on. Am I doing it wrong? Is there any other way to put the light out without taking apart the dashboard or fixing the ABS itself? Help?

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3122/abs1f.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8187/abs2z.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5152/abs3.jpg

[TNken]

Been chasing the ABS light problem for a while. Senors are rusted into housing and can't get them out, Right rear disk brake is dragging now.
Pricing for ABS components are out of this world. Anybody come across anywhere you can get these parts cheaper but not salvage. To replace this stuff cost more than the vehicles worth.

[tom4bren]

Been chasing the ABS light problem for a while. Senors are rusted into housing and can't get them out, Right rear disk brake is dragging now.
Pricing for ABS components are out of this world. Anybody come across anywhere you can get these parts cheaper but not salvage. To replace this stuff cost more than the vehicles worth.

Welcome TNken. I can't help you locate parts but when you find the ABS module, Eric wrote a nice How2 on installing it:

http://www.vehicross.info/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=50

[mrtew]

Does anyone know how to just get the light to go off? That's all I want. I bent the pin but it's still on. See post above. Help.

[VX4EJR]

bump bump bump to the last post

[Bob Barker]

Open the gauge cluster and remove the bulb behind it. Fail proof!

[mrtew]

I'd like to do that. How do you remove the gauge cluster!

[VX KAT]

Been chasing the ABS light problem for a while. Senors are rusted into housing and can't get them out, Right rear disk brake is dragging now.
Pricing for ABS components are out of this world. Anybody come across anywhere you can get these parts cheaper but not salvage. To replace this stuff cost more than the vehicles worth.

Here's another option...get your ABS unit rebuilt for about $100.

Here's the thread where it was discussed, start at post #13:
http://vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14712&highlight=ABS+MODULE+EBAY

Here's the current link to the ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ISUZU-VEHICROSS-99-00-01-ABS-4X4-MODULE-REBUILD-REPAIR-/140407986063?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b0f7d78f#ht_3859wt_624

[Junster]

I'm still waiting to buy mine but this is to the guy with the pin bent the fuse pulled and still has a abs light. From the posts I've read there are 2 abs fuses.

[Riff Raff]

Here's an even cheaper (< 0.01 cent) and quicker option without any labor involved to having the ABS light disappear. Simply put a tiny piece of Black Electrical Tape over the ABS indicator light on the instrument panel. Problem solved.

:bgwb:

[Mile High VX]

Here's an even cheaper (< 0.01 cent) and quicker option without any labor involved to having the ABS light disappear. Simply put a tiny piece of Black Electrical Tape over the ABS indicator light on the instrument panel. Problem solved.

:bgwb:

That's how I got rid of the flashing clock on my first VCR...:bwgy::smilewink:bgwo::bgwb:

[tom4bren]

VX is due for inspection & was sure it wouldn't pass with the ABS lite on.

Tried bending pin over & removing fuse. Lite still on. Pulled the dash cluster out & removed the ABS bulb. Only takes about 30 minutes & the only tool you need is a phillips screw driver.

If I get a chance this weekend, I'll try a re-do whilst taking pix.

BTW, there is only 1 fuse for ABS. The 20A one indicated on the cover is the one. The 40A shown on the cover is a fusable link, leave that in place.

BBTW, inspector dude doesn't like black 'lectric tape over idiot lights - couldn't go that route.

[nfpgasmask]

AFAIK, the ABS light does not trigger a CEL in the ECU, so you should pass emissions/etc. I have passed here in Reno 3 times with my ABS light on. Recently, I ripped out all of my ABS junk from the hubs and pulled the fuse. I just need to get that light out as well.

Bart

[Riff Raff]

VX is due for inspection & was sure it wouldn't pass with the ABS lite on.

BTW, inspector dude doesn't like black 'lectric tape over idiot lights - couldn't go that route.

Tom--- It's a good thing the Inspector Dude doesn't know about the pre-ignition ACC switch test light function for the ABS Light Bulb.

:bgwb:

[tom4bren]

Nah, but he sure focused in on the front right wheel bearings. FAILED.

Guess I'm getting dirty tonight to replace bearings (Kenny's write-up will be my friend - gotta remember to print it out before I go home).

[nfpgasmask]

Naaaa, replacing/repacking the wheel bearings is messy, but its an easy job if you have the right tools. I just did mine and it was simple.

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=21040&highlight=front+axle

Bart

[PK]

Tom,
not sure that the OFH is a good mix with cheap Chinese wheel bearings.

Have a good look at them before you put them in Mate.

PK

[tom4bren]

I'm with you on that PK.

Inner bearings came with outer races but outer bearings came without. Also they shorted me an outer bearing. Don't think I'll be ordering from them again. I'll prolly just do the passenger side right now (to get it re-inspected) & then order a full set of quality bearings to do the full job next month.

BTW, I've noticed that the brakes seem less mushy since the ABS has been disabled. Anyone else experience that?

[nfpgasmask]

My brakes feel the same will all the ABS crap pulled out.

Bart