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killinformula
07/27/2010, 09:29 PM
Since I have not posted in a while I thought I would contribute in the little ways I can... So with that said here is how I restored by head lights

Problem: My headlights were RIDICULOUSLY GROSS AND YELLOW!! (don't have a camera capable of showing the pics how bad it was)

Items Needed:
1) Brillo pads Cost: $2~$4 (Wal-Mart)
http://www.tidymike.com/images/abrasive-green.jpg
2) 2000 wet/dry Sand paper (I used 4 small 9'' by 11'' pieces) Cost: $3~$5 (AutoParts Store)
http://www.detailsupplyonline.com/images/sandpaper.jpg
3) Spray bottle Cost: $1~$3 (Wal-Mart)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_m42tZ2juZNg/SgdlrAO2W3I/AAAAAAAADQY/EHiu0ITziwQ/s400/spray+bottle.jpg
4) Meguiar's PlastX Cost:$5-$7 (AutoParts Store)
http://www.honda-tech.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59964&stc=1&d=1249422499
5) Polishing pad for a drill Cost:$20~$21 (AutoParts Store or EBay for roughly $10)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51gaVUsGnBL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
6) Drill Cost: Borrow one if you don't own one :)
http://aroundthesphere.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/cordless-drill-374.jpg

Steps:
1) Pop the hood and using the Brillo pad in circular motions, scrape off all the nasty yellow from the lens. Use the Water bottle to keep it nice and wet spraying as you go along. This should scratch the lens a lot, but don't worry, just keep going till the years of oxidization are gone. (Took me roughly 10 minutes each headlight, but mine were BAD!)

2) Use the 2000 grit sand paper (or higher if you can find it, 2500 is plenty high) and keep the headlight wet while you go to town on it to remove the scratches you just made with the Brillo pad. It should look really good as of this point, but you will notice still tiny scratched all over it. (Took me 10 minutes each headlight, take the time during this step, it really matters!!)

3) Use the drill, buffer pad and Meguiar's PlastX with the drill on high and apply medium pressure as not to rip up the pad but to buff out those tiny imperfections. (Took me about 8~10 minutes a headlight)

4) Apply a coat of the Meguiar's PlastX and buff out with a towel

5) Stand back and admire how amazing the VX looks for hours till your friends tell you you are annoying and mention how you won't stop talking about how cool the headlights look

Photo #1 (sorry i have a horrible camera and this was at night)
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/45285/2731717810055085417S600x600Q85.jpg

Photo#2
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/40002/2982742730055085417S600x600Q85.jpg

If I had something other than a crappy camera phone you could see they are crystal clear!!! Hope this helps.

Braden Morris

Bob Barker
07/28/2010, 12:50 AM
I have a 3M headlight restoration kit that worked well on some other headlights that I want to try to use this weekend. Hope I get good results on these.

and the lights you did look great, even through those crappy pics!

codyman3487
07/28/2010, 06:29 AM
looks good im gonna try it thanks

atilla_the_fun
07/28/2010, 07:27 AM
I have a 3M headlight restoration kit that worked well on some other headlights that I want to try to use this weekend. Hope I get good results on these.

and the lights you did look great, even through those crappy pics!


I used the 3m Kit, it worked amazingly. Be careful with the horn area (the horn of the light) because its hard to maneuver the spinning disk. Make sure you tape the hard plastic of the 3M pad with masking tape so you don't melt the headlight plastic when you tilt the drill

nfpgasmask
07/28/2010, 08:34 AM
My experience is that once you do the restoration, the yellowness comes back quickly. I think there is a UV coating that comes off when you do this that makes them get the yellows much faster. At least that was my experience.

Bart

Bob Barker
07/28/2010, 09:15 AM
I just always kept a heavy coat of wax on mine after I restored them. Don't know if that helped or if it was just a different headlight all together.

vt_maverick
07/28/2010, 09:53 AM
I just always kept a heavy coat of wax on mine after I restored them. Don't know if that helped or if it was just a different headlight all together.

My previous car (G35) had headlights that were notoriously bad for yellowing, and although I never tried the 3M kit on them, I did use 3M's Plastic Cleaner and Plastic Polish compounds every few washes. One of those compounds (can't remember which) is what comes in the 3M kit, and they can both be applied by hand with pretty good success. I imagine that once you use the 3M kit to get rid of the surface roughness (mine was really bad) you could follow-up every few months with those compounds to keep them clear.

killinformula
07/28/2010, 09:55 AM
My experience is that once you do the restoration, the yellowness comes back quickly. I think there is a UV coating that comes off when you do this that makes them get the yellows much faster. At least that was my experience.

Bart

That is one of my fears but I have looked into it and there are simple ways to keep the headlight from oxidizing again

Covering Methods (just a few of them)
1) Clear coat them
2) 3M makes a clear film
3) There are clear films made by companies that are more like clear bra covers, they help against chips as well from rocks and scraping against branches

Treatment methods
1) Use a clay bar every few months
2) Use a clear plastic polish, many at the local auto store are specifically designed to give a tiny polish but primarily prevent oxidization
3) Wax them
4) Baking soda

Just restoring the headlight is not sufficient... just as everything it requires the care after or it will be in vain, luckily the care is a lot easier than the cleaning

Braden Morris

vt_maverick
07/28/2010, 10:00 AM
...I imagine that once you use the 3M kit to get rid of the surface roughness (mine was really bad) you could follow-up every few months with those compounds to keep them clear.


2) Use a clear plastic polish, many at the local auto store are specifically designed to give a tiny polish but primarily prevent oxidization.


Well there you go. :thumbup:

RickOKC
07/28/2010, 04:10 PM
I used the Mother's Headlight kit and it mentions applying the polish monthly for "continued protection."

You're so right about taking plenty of time on Step 2 (sanding with fine grit.) It was about 110 degrees in my garage the night I used the kit so I need to repeat that step and finish the job once it's a bit cooler. Oh well, it still looks a LOT better!

killinformula
07/28/2010, 06:03 PM
Here are three more pics. Its still rainy hence all the water on the VX and again i have a HORRIBLE phone camera!!

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/22610/2642301430055085417S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/19367/2671435400055085417S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/46178/2013912960055085417S600x600Q85.jpg

killinformula
07/28/2010, 06:05 PM
looks good im gonna try it thanks

Thanks :) and good luck! It is not bad at all, plus you get to show your car a little tlc :yesy:

killinformula
07/28/2010, 06:06 PM
I used the Mother's Headlight kit and it mentions applying the polish monthly for "continued protection."

You're so right about taking plenty of time on Step 2 (sanding with fine grit.) It was about 110 degrees in my garage the night I used the kit so I need to repeat that step and finish the job once it's a bit cooler. Oh well, it still looks a LOT better!

Any photos? If so post them up :smilegray

SlowPro48
07/28/2010, 08:22 PM
My experience is that once you do the restoration, the yellowness comes back quickly. I think there is a UV coating that comes off when you do this that makes them get the yellows much faster. At least that was my experience.

Bart

Not only that but they will scratch much easier after you sand the hard protective coating off. You need to clearcoat them after you polish them.

But a word of warning for those in the South - if you do this in summer, wait until they are FULLY cured before taking outside to reinstall. I learned this the hard way. I was in a hurry. A few hours after spraying, the fresh clearcoat felt cured enough to work with. Looked really good too - if you think polished headlights look clear wait until you clearcoat them - they look absolutely brilliant. Anyway - wanted to get the lights back in and the cladding on before dark so took lights from 70 degree a/c air (dry) to outside where temp and humidity both were in high 90's. Doh! Forgot basic physics and chemistry - vapor expands when heated! Within 3 minutes whole thing had jillions of almost microscopic bubbles in the clearcoat. The surface is smooth - bubbles are deep down in the clearcoat so apparently the surface was fully cured but below the surface - not so much... It was still elastic enough for water vapor or VOC or maybe both to expand...

What an amateur, eh? Can't really see it during the day but at night when the lights are on those tiny bubbles sure do light up!

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/P10100151.JPG

:mado:

Yes, there is more sanding, polishing and clearcoating of headlights in my future - but not until Fall, of that you can be sure!

:mado:

RickOKC
07/29/2010, 05:05 PM
Any photos? If so post them up :smilegray
Oh, no way - no photos yet. Like I said, I skimped on the fine sanding so while they look better, they don't look "good". :p

Bob Barker
07/31/2010, 02:41 PM
So I went ahead and used my Turtle Wax mild rubbing compound and they came out really nice.

Before
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/jonbradley_photos/VehiCROSS/005-1.jpg

And after
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/jonbradley_photos/VehiCROSS/004-1.jpg

It may be a little hard to tell from the pics, but they cleaned up great.

killinformula
07/31/2010, 02:53 PM
So I went ahead and used my Turtle Wax mild rubbing compound and they came out really nice.

VERY NICE!!!! It truly changes the look of the vehicle!! Plus having a black VX and clear headlights is sweet!