OBDii for iPhone...

[technocoy]

There are a few of these out for both android and iphone and some for a little cheaper, but griffin tends to make decent components. If the software is done well this could be another option for us.

Just passing it along.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/griffin-gets-an-iphone-all-up-in-your-cars-obd-ii-port-with-the/

[taylorRichie]

I have two different OBDII scanners... Dash Command and Fuzzy car, both operate through a kiwi wifi OBDII Adapter.

They're fun... but I liked my dedicated scanguage better.

[Grif]

iPhone: $200 + Cost of 2 year contract with broken ATT network.
Griffin OBDII adaptor proprietary for iPhone: $89.99
Works with Windows: NO
Works with IPAD: NO
Works with anything but iPhone: NO

Total: $289.99 + tax plus cost of contract on a crappy network.

Droid Incredible: Free + Cost of of 2 year contract on an ubiquitous network.
OBDII Bluetooth Adapter: $20-35 on ebay.
Works with Windows: YES Some software is free
Works with Ipad: YES Some software is free
Works with any non-proprietary software: YES
Works with Android: Yes actually the best software is already free.

Total: $20-35

Do the math.

[atilla_the_fun]

really, grif? you work for google now? It was a very nice post - I'd rather keep my iphone (which is paid off) and go to t-mobile, then have to sink into a 2 year contract just for a new phone (2.5K$$)..

[technocoy]

"There are a few of these out for both android and iphone and some for a little cheaper, but griffin tends to make decent components. If the software is done well this could be another option for us.

Just passing it along.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/g...port-with-the/"

I'm not sure where your iPhone hating response was warranted, since if you read my post it's clear that there are other alternatives AND that it's available for Android.

Also, I already own an iPhone so your uneducated remarks are even sillier. I posted this for the parts of the community that may be interested. If you aren't interested there is no need to bother reading the post.

Second, nearly every Griffin accessory I own also works on my computer, both windows and mac.

Third if you read the post, I mention it being expensive, however pose the idea that the software may be above par, which would be nice.

Fourth, the carrier crap is so silly. Depending on where you live different carriers get different levels of coverage. I live in the Triangle of NC and never have an issue with ATT. Verizon also gets good coverage here. Sprint is ok downtown but then it gets a little spotty.

You also overlook that this will be a software solution as well. Different strokes for different folks. I have no reason to care about the entire second half of you post since I won't be taking my computer in my car, won't be using an Android phone, Won't be using Windows, and won't be using an iPad. Your entire argument is random and baseless.

Maybe I should restate my post as "another OBDII OPTION for iPHONE users. That way there won't be any confusion.

Since there have been multiple posts on the forum about the other options available I didn't feel the need to compare and contrast completely hypothetical ownership/computer OS preferences.

Thanks for the input though.

"iPhone: $200 + Cost of 2 year contract with broken ATT network.
Griffin OBDII adaptor proprietary for iPhone: $89.99
Works with Windows: NO
Works with IPAD: NO
Works with anything but iPhone: NO

Total: $289.99 + tax plus cost of contract on a crappy network.

Droid Incredible: Free + Cost of of 2 year contract on an ubiquitous network.
OBDII Bluetooth Adapter: $20-35 on ebay.
Works with Windows: YES Some software is free
Works with Ipad: YES Some software is free
Works with any non-proprietary software: YES
Works with Android: Yes actually the best software is already free.

Total: $20-35

Do the math."

[technocoy]

taylorRichie,

Are those running on your laptop or are you using them with your phone? I could hook one up to the lappy I suppose, but I think the biggest appeal to me for a bluetooth solution (if there is a good software component) and a phone would be just having it there all the time and be able to check it out on a whim without having to bring the computer along.

There are a couple other solutions that work with the iPhone too where you buy the cheaper adapter that has been mentioned and just get their app, but I'm interested in what Griffin may do with their software. They had a pretty cool remote app in beta for a while and their little tuner app was cool too.

I have a droid phone as my business line that I bought just to play around with for development, but I rarely ever carry it. Everything forwards to my main phone.

I'll have to look into the two you mention. I would love to have some software that does a great job with tracking, reading codes and being able to view progress on mileage, etc, but does it with a great interface.

[technocoy]

taylor,

There is a cool option for the iPhone with the kiwi hardware... This may be what you were already talking about of course...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7V-mOTeiM8

Looks pretty cool. I like that you can buy more sensor readers that also integrate into the software. Pretty well done product.

[technocoy]

you know, looking at this kiwi solution, if you were really a performance nut, this would actually be a really cool thing to mount an iPod Touch into the actual dash and have available all the time. You could of course them tie it into the stereo for the music functionality.

taylorRichie... Have you found everything to be pretty accurate in your experience with the Kiwi and Fuzzycar stuff?

Now that they are detailing the Griffin thing a little more, it appears to be geared more towards driving "greener". It covers basic code reading and stuff too, but I think that the solution TaylorRichie brought up may be the way I might go. The more I dig into that the cooler it looks. There are a ton of options with that system.

taylor, are you using it with an iPhone? I'd love to get your impressions.

[technocoy]

This looks cool too...

http://www.devtoaster.com/products/rev/

Here are the other options taylor listed:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dashcommand-obd-ii-gauge-dashboards/id321293183?mt=8

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/from_topapp.net/id327822395?mt=8#

Both look like good alternatives as well.

This one is free, but the interface suffers a bit of course:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logworks/id351896392?mt=8

FuzzyCar is free as well and also has an app they make that is only for code pulling if that's all you need:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fuzzycodes/id319004364?mt=8

[DogBoneVX]

Are there any good Android alternatives to this out there?

[taylorRichie]

So far I've only been using my iphone... I have an old iphone that I can leave in the car.

The early version of Palmer's Dash Command was really poor, but has vastly improved.

The thing I like abou the kiwi is it's compatible with laptops, and wide array of software, where the griffin is probably going to be Proprietary products only.

As far as accuracy, everything seems spot on.

If you enjoy playing gadgets I'd definitely recommend it. But I'm sure the laptop software for the kiwi is much better for tuning.

As far as iphone vs android.

iphone usability is far far far superior to any of the android UI's...

Of course being open you can install better GUIs, but I just want my phone to work.

As soon as iphone is available for other networks, I'll be switching, but for now:
iphone AT&T > (any android on any network)

:D

[technocoy]

Dogbone, there are apparently quite a few starting to show up on android. I searched a few last night on google, and they were promising but the UIs were basic at best. There may be some nice ones out there though that I'm just not aware of since I haven' really looked for anything android.

taylor, I'm pretty sure the griffin will be proprietary after reading the more detailed release notes. It also appears to be limited to more of a green driving crowd than any real tuning, etc.

The more I look at the solutions you had posted the more I like them. It's also nice to have the option of using a bigger screen and interface when needed.

[DogBoneVX]

As soon as iphone is available for other networks, I'll be switching, but for now:
iphone AT&T > (any android on any network)

:D


Funny you say that. Verizon is going to announce in the next couple days that It's getting the iphone.

[taylorRichie]

@ DogBoneVX - And at that time I'll be switching :)

@technocoy...

Even though I haven't taken the time to use laptop based software, that's really what made me go this route. Not necessarily for the VX, but for any car. The kiwi is more expensive, but kiwi + Dash Command is only a little more than the scanguage, and the scanguage is limited (but very good at what it does)

[DogBoneVX]

Boom! iPhone available on Verizon as of 2.3.11 for preexisting customers. Or 3.10.11 for new customers.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/live-blogging-the-verizon-iphone-announcement/?no_interstitial