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Daly
02/01/2012, 12:19 PM
Fed ex truck backed into me today breaking among other things one of the clear round lights on front cladding. Anyone replace those with either fogs or driving lights that they would recommend?

JAMAS
02/01/2012, 12:28 PM
I dont know the thread off the top of my head, but I know several people have.

Search for HID and driving lights.

Vendetta
02/01/2012, 12:33 PM
You've caught me mid-research into possibly this same project. Sorry to hear that your needs are a bit more "pressing" (yeah, I said it), than mine.

I'm looking for ~3-inch FOG - specifically fog - lamps, meaning they toss the right beam pattern and all, not just any old lamps that fit. It's hard to get reliable information from certain vendors that don't know, let alone explain, the differences in these things.

I was considering a pair of these round HID fogs from a vendor called... brace yourself... "Blinglights." So you can see why I have trust issues.

Where in NY are you Daly?
-V

Vendetta
02/01/2012, 02:01 PM
Can someone, whose VX is not in the shop, please post the measurements of the socket for these lamps? There are 2 important ones, the overall diameter of the hole, and also the interior diameter of the lip that holds the lamp in place.

Socket depth would be good too, but less likely to be a concern.

Thanks,
-V

Gussie2000
02/01/2012, 05:02 PM
Scott why don't you upgrade those old lamp with a not-to-expensive pilot fog lights ?

If you are interested i can drive by your house or meet elsewhere to show you mines

VX KAT
02/01/2012, 09:10 PM
You've caught me mid-research into possibly this same project. Sorry to hear that your needs are a bit more "pressing" (yeah, I said it), than mine.

I'm looking for ~3-inch FOG - specifically fog - lamps, meaning they toss the right beam pattern and all, not just any old lamps that fit. It's hard to get reliable information from certain vendors that don't know, let alone explain, the differences in these things.

I was considering a pair of these round HID fogs from a vendor called... brace yourself... "Blinglights." So you can see why I have trust issues.

Where in NY are you Daly?
-V


Daly & V-
Somebody tried those Blinglights and they didn't fit...can't recall who it was....Mark was it you???


Have you seen what I had put in there? "Vision-X" Solstice SoloPrime, 860 lumen each. They're a bit pricey but awesome bright and LIFETIME warranty! And I don't get flashed on the highway. They come in both 20 and 40 degrees. I got the 40 degree light pattern. The "fins" on the back aid in keeping them cool, and lasting longer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180623853919?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

YOU CAN JUST SEE A ROUND WHITE SOLID SPOT ON THE LENS, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT TELLS YOU THEY'RE NOT OEM:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3367/dsc6727d.jpg


http://www.visionxusa.com/LED-Solstice_Prime_Series/c1_106/index.html

http://www.visionxusa.com/images/LRG/LED/Solstice%20Prime/SP100/XIL-SP140_main.jpg



That round opening is approx 2.5" wide. The Vision-X are 2",s o my guy put some gasket of some kind around them to fit snug. I also had him use the OEM lens covers, and he had to cut them down but everything looks OEM...until I turn them on...:naughty:

Another member tried the ones on ebay that look almost identical to the Vision-X, but later said they both failed (I don't know specifics).

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showpost.php?p=228448&postcount=651

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showpost.php?p=228509&postcount=654



Here's pics of the lens cover and the socket, I can't measure mine since it's been cut down in length. These might just give you rough idea.
To remove the lenses, turn 1/4 turn counterclockwise. Mine were really tough, guess 9 yrs of crude in the gasket kind of cemented it in. But I used one of those rubbery things you can use to open jars...it worked...plus you need small fingers to get in the rim.
These were some tower LEDs (38 LEDs about $20 each on ebay) I first tried, really bright, but one self-destructed when pbkid touched it...hehe IIRC the LED tower was 1.5" long. It didn't hit the inside of the lens.
(And one tip...do NOT try to remove all that dirt and thick grease on the pigtail connector on the back ...that's what keeps it sealed and water-tight.)

Then I saw the Vision-X and really wanted them, so I just removed these towers. They were fine, just wanted these instead.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1663/dsc1992f.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1227/dsc1993h.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9695/dsc1985o.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5836/dsc1988rd.jpg

Vendetta
02/02/2012, 04:56 AM
Thanks Kat. If you ever want to upgrade your lamps, looks like your diamond shines brighter than all the other bulbs put together! :)

I've been considering the Vision X lamps too, but prefer to get a true fog instead of a driving lamp. It's all part of a lighting "strategy" I'm scheming.

Still need those exact measurements if there's anyone out there who can do it. It's not an emergency, as I'll get my own rig back in a day or so, but it would let me close out this one browser tab and shopping cart one way or the other. ;)

-V

rowhard
02/02/2012, 09:11 AM
Moncha did a how to write-up here on converting those useless lights to Hella Micro DE's and I did a follow-up mod write-up here converting them to HID's

http://www.vehicross.info/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=2

http://www.vehicross.info/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=42

Vendetta
02/02/2012, 09:46 AM
^^^

Which are awesome and a wellspring of knowledge from which I shall gratefully draw.

BUT... I'm looking at a few different styles of lights and need the measurements before I buy. I'd go out to the garage and look myself, if only the shop weren't taking its sweet time getting the work done. :mad:

No big deal though, it should be too much longer now. (At least that's what I keep telling myself.) And I've never been less upset about a snowless NY winter.

-V

Ala5ka
02/02/2012, 11:28 AM
I have to Vision X lights mounted in the little holes next to the license plate and I love them, great customer service too.

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/chaseckert/IMG_0745.jpg

Gussie2000
02/02/2012, 12:13 PM
I like those vision light bulbs too.
But i had to replace both fog lights housing because they melt down after replacing the OEM bulbs for 100watts during the summer.

MSHardeman
02/02/2012, 06:13 PM
I did order a set of the angel eye BlingLights, but I haven't installed them yet. The quality seems pretty good as the housing is metal with glass lenses. The first set that I ordered was too big, even though they said that they were for the VX. I emailed the guys that I bought them from, told them I needed one that was 3" or 3.5" in diameter (can't remember which) and they sent them over quickly. No shipping charge for the swap (from what I can remember) and no charge to swap to a different size.

VX KAT
02/02/2012, 06:20 PM
I did order a set of the angel eye BlingLights, but I haven't installed them yet. The quality seems pretty good as the housing is metal with glass lenses. The first set that I ordered was too big, even though they said that they were for the VX. I emailed the guys that I bought them from, told them I needed one that was 3" or 3.5" in diameter (can't remember which) and they sent them over quickly. No shipping charge for the swap (from what I can remember) and no charge to swap to a different size.

Wow, my memory must actually be working!......wohoo! :dan_ban:....I just didn't know the second half of the story that they exchanged them for you. :thumbup:

LittleBeast
02/02/2012, 10:11 PM
I went the Moncha road, awesome upgrade:

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_17591.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_1761.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_17691.JPG

Vendetta
02/02/2012, 10:28 PM
It does look quite intimidating, doesn't it. :naughty:

But to me it also imparts a distinctly "street" feel to the front end. Very slick and not quite in balance with the more off-pavement look I'm attempting to achieve.

Closing out my own request in this thread, I was able to get the measurements (roughly, but close enough to count) of those sockets. I'm going to replace the OEM lamps and housings with a pair of true fog lamps.
(The ones I've purchased are the 80mm 55W H3 Halogen DE Series from Hella.) I plan to disconnect them from the lighting controls on the stalk, and wire them to an Isuzu OEM fog lamp switch to be placed in the fuzzy
hole blank plate I acquired last year. The other two switch location will also sport OEM fog switches - already acquired - to control two banks of auxiliary lighting: a pair of driver beams mounted to the safari bar, and four
on the roof - a pair of spots at the inboard position and a pair of floods at the outboard position.

I love it when a plan comes together. When it begins, I'll be sure to document everything in a fresh thread.

-V

Vendetta
02/03/2012, 02:29 PM
'Beast and Rowhard,

What ballasts did you use for the HID bulb swap in your Hellas?

Thanks,
-V

VX KAT
02/03/2012, 03:22 PM
Closing out my own request in this thread, I was able to get the measurements (roughly, but close enough to count) of those sockets. I'm going to replace the OEM lamps and housings with a pair of true fog lamps.
(The ones I've purchased are the 80mm 55W H3 Halogen DE Series from Hella.) I plan to disconnect them from the lighting controls on the stalk, and wire them to an Isuzu OEM fog lamp switch to be placed in the fuzzy
hole blank plate I acquired last year. The other two switch location will also sport OEM fog switches - already acquired - to control two banks of auxiliary lighting: a pair of driver beams mounted to the safari bar, and four
on the roof - a pair of spots at the inboard position and a pair of floods at the outboard position.

I love it when a plan comes together. When it begins, I'll be sure to document everything in a fresh thread.

-V

OOPS...:mbrasd:...sorry bout the giant pics.....I tried a different image hosting service and didn't realize they would be that big....I've figgered it out now..:slap:..


V- are you talking the MICRO DE series? I couldn't find any other on their website with H3 55W & DE.
Your plan sounds great, can't wait to see it.

Vendetta
02/03/2012, 03:59 PM
Nope, not the ones that I've seen others here using. Again, to me, they look good-ish, but give a very sporty "street" feel to the VX's face. I'm going for a more filled out, less streamlined look.

The lamps I got are the these 80mm babies from Hella:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41T3kUemhnL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Hella's part number is H12186011. Or just search for [Hella 80mm fog] and you'll get plenty of info on them. Plus, I'm angling to swap the bulbs a la Rowhard.

As a teaser, here's a list of the complete project:

Lift - parts arrived
Wheels
Tires - arrived
New rotors and pads - parts arrived
Steel brake lines - parts arrived
Tint - this weekend
Remote start - this weekend
Body work & touch up - DONE
De-badge - DONE
Tone hitch - DONE
Front and rear "skid plates" by Rowhard - DONE (Thanks ROWHARD)
Headlamp restore - DONE
Safari bar - arrived (and brackets - arrived Thanks TOM4BREN)
Nerf bars (and brackets - quit playing with the new hitch already TOM4BREN, LOL)
Exhaust - DONE (but needs refining)
VX grille emblem from MAXPRIME - arrived
HID headlamp upgrade from XenonRider.com - parts arrived
Fuzzy blank and switches update - parts arrived (Thanks VX KAT, MARLIN, NEWTHINGS, et al.)
...and all the lighting I've described above


It's a sickness, isn't it.

-V

tom4bren
02/03/2012, 04:52 PM
Careful Vendetta. You're going to make JAMAS jealous. He has EVERY ONE of the Genuine Tone products I purchased ... except the NERF bars. You'll be the onliest one with them.


& yes, it is a sickness.

Vendetta
02/03/2012, 05:05 PM
You say that with a smile only a seasoned pusher could master. I need my bracket fix, maaaan!

Vendetta
02/03/2012, 05:12 PM
Rowhard, 'Beast,

Any heat issues such as melting or warping the lenses when swapping out the 55W halogen bulbs in your Micro DE's for the 35W (I assume) HID's?

Thanks!
-V

BeeVenom
02/04/2012, 09:43 AM
I replaced my round stock lites with HID lites with 'halo ring' that can change color.as desired. They look pretty cool. Forget the brand name but can look in my files. Scott

Vendetta
02/09/2012, 11:31 AM
The lights arrived today.

If anyone's thinking of getting these same ones, hold off until I can see if they'll work. Turns out, they're NOT 80mm, but more than 90mm at the base, which is the vital measurement. And the centimeter makes a big difference.

:smack:
-V

Gussie2000
02/09/2012, 03:12 PM
Hey V i need to see what you have so far

Vendetta
02/09/2012, 08:08 PM
You won't recognize it, bro. :naughty: Let's meet up towards the end of the month.

Gussie2000
02/10/2012, 06:54 PM
Okie dokye V !!!

I'll try to haul along scott ( daly ) and albert ( ALC ) to have a mini meet.