View Full Version : VX Air Box Shared with Trooper or Rodeo?
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 08:16 AM
My air box was damaged in the accident back in November and I need to find a replacement. Can't find any VX's nearby but there are tons of Troopers and Rodeos. Does anybody know if the those air boxes cross reference? The Trooper one sure looks the same from the parts catalog photos. The left pic is the VX diagram and right pic is for a Trooper.
https://www.partswebsite.com/stores/partsimages/parts4/4628150.gif https://www.partswebsite.com/stores/partsimages/parts4/4650610.gif
VX KAT
02/27/2012, 08:36 AM
do the used parts places list it as compatible? look it up on Merlin's website to see if it's the same #.
Didn't your 2nd VX have one?
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 08:42 AM
Both air boxes sustained damage in their respective accidents. :noy:
I can't figure out how to see the part #'s on Merlin or IsuzuParts' websites. Help?
Yeh, if Isuzu had something in the bin that they could cross utilize between models, they weren't apt to re-invent it...:yesgray:
I would think that cross referencing air filter part #'s would give a pretty good cross section of models that were same-same.
In this ebay ad (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Champ-Champion-Labs-AF7859-Air-Filter-/160667782965?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2000%7CModel%3AVehiCROSS&vxp=mtr&hash=item25688bcf35), there are 7 pages of cross referenced vehicles (135) with the same air filter application, including some Toyotas...:_thinking
Not sure if all those models share the exact same box, but it's a good starting point.
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 08:48 AM
I already looked at the air box on the wife's Axiom and it's a no-go - air filter dimensions are the same, but the port that goes back to the engine is in a different place.
I already looked at the air box on the wife's Axiom and it's a no-go - air filter dimensions are the same, but the port that goes back to the engine is in a different place.
Oh well...:_confused
So much for my crackhead idea...:slap:
VX KAT
02/27/2012, 09:07 AM
I guess call Merlin, he'll know for sure.
Mile High VX
02/27/2012, 09:59 AM
The 2000 VX and the 2000 Trooper box are exactly the same price on isuzuparts.com, but the Rodeo one is more expensive.
I'd start there.
pbkid
02/27/2012, 10:17 AM
you can try my method.... buy one and try it :)
or....... make it fit :smack:
Paul_A
02/27/2012, 10:50 AM
Well.... I had a Frontera (Identical to the Rodeo) and although the air filter element is identical... the box isn't :(
Don't see why a rodeo box wouldn't fit in there though with a bit of clever manipulating and mounting.
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 10:58 AM
Talked to Merlin and the official line is that the part #'s for the VX and Trooper box are indeed different. Merlin agreed that the pictures are nearly identical, but he didn't know for sure if they would interchange without some modification. Trying to decide whether to pick up a Trooper air box for $75 tonight or drive an hour or two out of my way tomorrow to pick up a VX air box from an other junkyard. Hate to spend that $75 on the Trooper one and have it not fit - at that point I could have just paid the $150 or so for a brand new one.
you can try my method.... buy one and try it :)
or....... make it fit :smack:
Well.... I had a Frontera (Identical to the Rodeo) and although the air filter element is identical... the box isn't :(
Don't see why a rodeo box wouldn't fit in there though with a bit of clever manipulating and mounting.
Hellz yeah...you can even persuade a big ol' K&N cone to live in there if you don't mind some of this & that...:smilewink
(this & that = :_wrench: & :smack:)
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC00725.JPG
etlsport
02/27/2012, 11:12 AM
I think I have my OEM airbox somewhere.. Ill check tonight and let you know. Then if you make it up this way way next month no extra shipping costs
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 11:59 AM
Thanks for the offer Erick, I'll let you know. It looks like I may have a line on one in a yard that's on my way home from where I'm at right now, so I may end up doing that instead. I would hate to drive that far with a gaping hole in the air box, but I might depending on price. (The yard wants $75 which is about half of new.)
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 04:45 PM
Confirmed that the one in the yard on my way home is in good shape, so I'm going to pick that one up tomorrow. They've still got the whole VX there (it's a '99) so I'm going to check it out and see what's left. Already confirmed the cross bars are gone. :(
I would hate to drive that far with a gaping hole in the air box
Ummmmm...Mav?...:confused:
Why did God invent duct tape?...:_thinking
vt_maverick
02/27/2012, 09:06 PM
Lol... I know, I know Dub. But I have this paranoia that it would get sucked into the intake somehow and ka-boom! I am not ready for an engine swap just yet. ;)
I know it's not that serious, but in this case it's easy enough to pick up one from the yard on my way home and just get it off my to-do list.
VX KAT
02/29/2012, 01:03 PM
Don't know if you picked up the one at the yard yet, but here's one on ebay from a yard in KY, I bought the roof rack from them last year, very decent to deal with, will negotiate.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-00-01-ISUZU-VEHICROSS-AIR-CLEANER-/250797124567?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AVehiCROSS%7CMake%3AIsuzu&hash=item3a64ac6bd7&vxp=mtr#ht_2502wt_988
vt_maverick
02/29/2012, 03:28 PM
Yep I picked it up from them yesterday, cleaned it out last night, and am planning to reinstall it tonight. Appreciate the recommendation though Sue!
Yep I picked it up from them yesterday, cleaned it out last night, and am planning to reinstall it tonight. Appreciate the recommendation though Sue!
Does that one still have the fang covers as in the pics?
Seem to remember a few requests for them lately...:_thinking
vt_maverick
02/29/2012, 03:57 PM
Sorry for the confusion, when I said "them" I meant the yard in NC where I got my box, NOT the yard that Sue references above. The one I saw was picked over pretty bad already.
Always sad to see one in that state. I may have to ask Greg to put a cover over my old VX before I go over to his house again.
vt_maverick
02/29/2012, 06:51 PM
Hey for anybody who's looking (and really needs to blow their lottery winnings before the IRS finds out) this should work too. Keep in mind it's USED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ISUZU-VEHICROSS-Isuzu-VX-Isuzu-Tiejingang-1997-Air-Cleaner-62905-/220951283214?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3371b9060e
Hey for anybody's who's looking (and really needs to blow their lottery winnings before the IRS finds out) this should work too. Keep in mind it's USED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ISUZU-VEHICROSS-Isuzu-VX-Isuzu-Tiejingang-1997-Air-Cleaner-62905-/220951283214?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3371b9060e
Buy it now of deuce/tre ???
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Capturebox.PNG
Aiiiiight...that's IT!!!
Whatever they're smokin' in Tokyo, is obviously better than whatever I can get my hands on...:yesgray:
I'm MOVING!
blacksambo
03/02/2012, 12:13 PM
It seems for what ever reason, that the VX fuel injection system is different than the Trooper. Maybe we should write as a group to Isuzu engineering dept. for an official explanation. Only thing I can figure is that because the VX has full time TOD, and the Trooper can be switched off, the system operates differently??? Any other thoughts?
It seems for what ever reason, that the VX fuel injection system is different than the Trooper.
Splain please...:confused:
blacksambo
03/02/2012, 06:47 PM
Meaning the airbox and beyond. It never seems to be a clean switch when a Trooper long block is mated to the VX. The VX apparatus has to go on top.
Meaning the airbox and beyond. It never seems to be a clean switch when a Trooper long block is mated to the VX. The VX apparatus has to go on top.
I only remember that as an issue when Ianironman transplanted a DI lump out of an Axiom...the direct injection was controlled by different parameters within the Ax CPU (also, the drive by wire).
He changed out the intake manifold, so that there were no issues...:_wrench:
Plz advise if you have info that I'm not seeing...:yesgray:
blacksambo
03/02/2012, 08:53 PM
You can't dump a 100 % Trooper operation in to a Vx and vice versa, it just don't mate up or operate quite the same. Why is my question? Maybe we just don't know the answer, so let's ask the great god Isuzu, that's all.
VX KAT
03/14/2012, 11:34 AM
Buy it now of deuce/tre ???
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Capturebox.PNG
Aiiiiight...that's IT!!!
Whatever they're smokin' in Tokyo, is obviously better than whatever I can get my hands on...:yesgray:
I'm MOVING!
Hey, it's heading in the right direction at least...now "down" to $169....:rollo:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320866418295&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_12213wt_1003
vt_maverick
03/14/2012, 12:10 PM
Noticed that too lol... another $100 off and he's right where most junkyards charge. ;)
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