Phoenix Area...help Needed!!!

[JoFotoz]

There is a 1989 Trooper RS being parted out in Phoenix..

...and the BACK AXLE IS AVAILABLE :thumbup:

They will HOLD IT for ME!

ARIZONA IMPORTS
2405 WEST BROADWAY STREET
Phoenix
Az 85041.
Tel-: 1-602-243-7447

Is anyone able to go there and...

Pop the 3rd member.
Confirm its a 4.77 ( 43 teeth on ring gear).
Check it for condition.
Take it home if its good.

...then we'll figure out how to get it to me :_thinking


And please..ask if they have the front too!

Huge favor I know....

..but I'll make it all good!

Leave a message here, PM me with a phone number, or I'll call you.

MANY MANY MANY MANY..THANKS!.....
...especially to Steve/Big Swede who found it :thumbup:

Jo

[VX KAT]

Hey Jo....let me look into it....I think we can do it.....of course we can't do the wrenching, but maybe you could pay them to remove it?
If they can get it out and it's good, I can get it shipped or we'll figure something out to get it to you.

[Prcdpnknova]

Hey Jo,

I'm planning on being in SD 7/15 - 7/16. Maybe if you can get the parts to Vegas and are willing to pay for a one way U-haul trailer ride (approx $50 to rent the trailer) I can bring it with me? I'm not worried about strain on the VX as the trailer would be practically empty.

Just trying to help ya out anyway I can! I'd hate to see you pay $$$$ for shipping if you don't have to.

[VXorado]

Maybe if you can get the parts to Vegas and are willing to pay for a one way U-haul trailer ride (approx $50 to rent the trailer) I can bring it with me? I'm not worried about strain on the VX as the trailer would be practically empty.


The 3rds are small enough to fit in the back of the VX so you shouldn't have to rent a uhaul. ;)

Gotta love the Forum, always someone willing to help. Way to go Sue & Nova!!!

...and I hope you get the gears Jo. :)

[Zu4two]

I emailed Jo yesterday. I might be able to go by there tomorrow or Saturday morning. I don't know about pulling the part, but I can try!

[nfpgasmask]

Whoever ends up doing this, I will make it worth your while as well.

I'd be interested in the black dash if these parts are in good shape (no cracks or chips in the black material) I will pay the yard whatever they charge for it, plus give $100 to whoever can pick it up and ship it to me. This is the last piece of the puzzle for my black interior swap into my 91 Trooper.

PM me if interested in a little work for some extra cash.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

OK!!..thanks for all the offers!

The yard is going to get back to me today, hopefully they will pull the 3rd..
...and if so, I'll try and get them to strip it down and just ship the bits I need.

Sue..THANKS...lets see what the yard can do first:thumbup:

Kirk..THANKS.. Ditto the above! :thumbup:

Nova..THANKS..As explained by Jon (vxorado), no trailer required :thumbup:

Bart..I'll talk to them about the Dash when they call me, and call you if its good.

Fingers crossed, and MANY thanks for all the offers.

If its a gen-u-ine 4.77........:clap:

:_beer:

Jo

[VX KAT]

10-4

We may be able to do this as a relay ....
I would pick it up in PHX, (and Bart's dash too), then meet up with you Nova in Seligman, pass the 3rd to you for your trip to San Diego. :thumbup:

[circmand]

Don't we need Kevin Bacon here somewhere.

[nfpgasmask]

Awesome guys. Thanks.

Bart

[RabidPony]

Let us know how much they charge you for the thirds. Be interesting to know an approximate going rate.

[JoFotoz]

Sure..


Let us know how much they charge you for the thirds. Be interesting to know an approximate going rate.

Here's a couple of Historical values :-

Pair of 4.77 3rds...no lockers...$850

Pair of 4.77 3rds..Aussie Lockers in both.....$1350


Note..these were basically plug and play..ready to go...
....so not scrap yard prices.

jo

[nfpgasmask]

Most scrap yards will sell thirds for about $80 each. Ask me how I know. :)

Bart

[Dumke]

OK dumb question. Since 4.77 are soo hard to come by could you not get one and have a shop make duplicates? I will be in the market for 4.77s and wondering if this is a viable option in the future. That is if I ever get my hands on a 4.77

[Triathlete]

Sounds like you got it under control Jo. Good luck. Gotta get that beast on (and off) the road again

[BigSwede]

I have talked extensively with Matt Brown about the difficulty in getting gears made, such as 5.38s. Making hypoid gears is not easy, takes a specialty shop and is VERY expensive for small batches. Matt is looking at a $30K minimum investment to get a run of gears made if the tooling is already in place, more if not.

[nfpgasmask]

I have talked extensively with Matt Brown about the difficulty in getting gears made, such as 5.38s. Making hypoid gears is not easy, takes a specialty shop and is VERY expensive for small batches. Matt is looking at a $30K minimum investment to get a run of gears made if the tooling is already in place, more if not.

What he said. This isn't as simple as just pumping out duplicates. You have hardened steel and precision instrumentation and all that. It would be cool though, I would love 5.38s in my 91.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Yup Robert...get 'em made.

I looked into it too....
But as stated here already...$$$$$$$$$'s ..:eek:

Yard is busy, they havent had time to check it yet..

..I wait with bated breath.

And yes Bart...thats a GREAT price,..I hate you :p
I'm guessing the scrap yard didnt know what they had...
....and I'm not sure this one does.

So..we shall see.

jo

[nfpgasmask]

And yes Bart...thats a GREAT price, I'm guessing the scrap yard didnt know what they had...
....and I'm not sure this one does.
Yeah, its best to not let them know. ;)

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Too true..


Yeah, its best to not let them know. ;)

Bart

...hence I am working on it gently...at their pace!

Jo

[nfpgasmask]

Too true..



...hence I am working on it gently...at their pace!

Jo
Yeah, that's how it was with the two yards I worked with. I was just patient and tried to not get pushy. ;)

And Jo, if and when you do talk to them, and if you are willing to see if they have the black dash, make sure they understand that ANY cracks or dings in the black material means no go for me. I already have 3 dashes sitting in my garage, and they are all blemished in one way or another. So I am only looking for a very clean one without damage. Obviously, price is the next question. And if you don't have the time, no worries, I will call them when you are done getting the 3rds. Thanks.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Yo Bart

Just talked to them.

He doesnt think they have the dash,( or front axle :thumbdn:)......already sold. :mad:
But...he said he would double check.

They are gonna try and pull the 3rd tomorrow or Saturday..
...and send pics.

jo

[nfpgasmask]

No worries. Man, I hope they have it for you!!

Bart

[Prcdpnknova]

10-4

We may be able to do this as a relay ....
I would pick it up in PHX, (and Bart's dash too), then meet up with you Nova in Seligman, pass the 3rd to you for your trip to San Diego. :thumbup:


Could totally be done! :yeso:

[RabidPony]

Just found two worse for wear RS's for sale. Calling to see if the sellers can email me pics of the data plates.

[nfpgasmask]

Just found two worse for wear RS's for sale. Calling to see if the sellers can email me pics of the data plates.

No need to check the data plates. If it is an '89 RS, it has 4.77s. I have never seen or heard of an '89 RS without 4.77s. It was the standard package when these vehicles were released here.

Now, if you can find out if these vehicles are actually RS Troopers, please PM me the locations if you don't mind. I have no interest in the 4.77s, but I really need a clean, damage free black dash panel. Worst case, if you wouldn't mind asking them for me over the phone, about the dashes, I would be mighty grateful.

Bart

[Dumke]

Just found two worse for wear RS's for sale. Calling to see if the sellers can email me pics of the data plates.

I do have a need for 4.77 So pm me as well. Unless you are getting for yourself then I will happily wait my turn.

[nfpgasmask]

Just found two worse for wear RS's for sale. Calling to see if the sellers can email me pics of the data plates.

If only it were that easy. Neither of those you found are actually RS Troopers. Both are 4dr models. Bummer.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

I fear that all the interest in 4.77's from folk here....

...and lots of people calling all the breakers yards...

... the price to rise!

:_brickwal

Jo

[JoFotoz]

:_brickwal...

Turns out its an RS...with 4.56 gears.

Yea..I know..:confused:

VIN confirms RS...double :_thinking.

Guy at the yard pulled the 3rd, sent pics..and we both counted the teeth.

41... :(



THANKS AGAIN for all the help offers...

..the search continues!

Jo

[nfpgasmask]

That makes no sense. That means someone had swapped the gears out prior. Weird.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Yea...


That makes no sense. That means someone had swapped the gears out prior. Weird.

Bart


...make no sense AT ALL.

Still :confused: & :_thinking on this one!

Jo

[Dumke]

I fear that all the interest in 4.77's from folk here....

...and lots of people calling all the breakers yards...

... the price to rise!

:_brickwal

Jo



Brother Jo first one I find is for you second is for myself. Your the one that needs it the most as your Truck is kaput till you get one. It would be selfish of me to take something for myself when someone else needs it more. Keeping it would be plain greed. Get my drift :D ?? But I am still searching so hopefully will find something soon.


Edit: I had the wrong quote lol.

[Triathlete]

Well that sucks Jo! :(

[VXorado]

Boo... and yet plenty of time until Moab 2013. We'll get em' :yesy:

[JoFotoz]

Yea...big let down!

Still cant figure it out..its an RS FOR SURE...

..so somebody must of swapped out the diffs already.

Very strange.
.

Brother Robert..:cool:..but I dont know if there is really a pecking order for these!!!
But I do think I should of kept the search a tad more stealthy!!

:(

Jo

[BigSwede]

:_brickwal...

Turns out its an RS...with 4.56 gears.

Yea..I know..:confused:

VIN confirms RS...double :_thinking.

Guy at the yard pulled the 3rd, sent pics..and we both counted the teeth.

41... :(

DOH! :mad:

[VXorado]

Boo... and yet plenty of time until Moab 2013. We'll get em' :yesy:

Didn't take too long. :bgwo:

I found a set. Check your PM ASAP.

$300 for the 12 Bolt 4.77 3rd

$200 for the 10 Bolt 4.77 3rd

90,000 miles

SCOOP IT UP :)

[pbkid]

Didn't take too long. :bgwo:

I found a set. Check your PM ASAP.

$300 for the 12 Bolt 4.77 3rd

$200 for the 10 Bolt 4.77 3rd

90,000 miles

SCOOP IT UP :)

Good on you Jon! Lets get jo rollin again

[nfpgasmask]

Very nice, $400 for a pair is not a bad price.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Yea..HUGE PROPS to Jon.

He caught them on a full Craigs search overnight that my full search yesterday missed.

FYI.....seems there is something of a time lag from posting on Craigs
to showing up in full searches.

Jon has talked with him, I'll be talking to the guy tonight.

Fingers and Toesies crossed...

Jo

[JoFotoz]

Not quite..


Very nice, $400 for a pair is not a bad price.

Bart

$500 for the pair...plus shipping.

I hope that he can strip them both down, take out all the guts...

...and just ship bits, not ship entire 3rds..cause thats big $$$'s!!

jo

[nfpgasmask]

Yes, the full craigslist searches seem to be out of date regularly. I still do them, but when I am seriously searching, I start by doing multiple searches out of the biggest cities in the country.

Bart

[Ldub]

Yea..HUGE PROPS to Jon...:thumbup:

Jon has talked with him, I'll be talking to the guy tonight.

Fingers and Toesies crossed...

Jo

All proper appendages crossed for U Bro...:yes:.

[vt_maverick]

He caught them on a full Craigs search overnight that my full search yesterday missed.

FYI.....seems there is something of a time lag from posting on Craigs
to showing up in full searches.


Yes, the full craigslist searches seem to be out of date regularly. I still do them, but when I am seriously searching, I start by doing multiple searches out of the biggest cities in the country.

Bart

How are you guys searching CL? Are you just typing something like "4.77 -site:craigslist.org" into Google, or are you using an automated search tool?

[JoFotoz]

I'm using...


http://www.adhuntr.com/

Jo

[VXorado]

On adhuntr...

Search "isuzu 4.77" "isuzu gears" "isuzu 477"

Finding 4.77s on craigslist is like finding a flying man-bear-pig unicorn. Reason being, most people who know they have 4.77s use the planet to post them for sale. That's why I wanted to tell Jo ASAP after finding them yesterday morning. The only other time I saw 4.77s on craigslist was for a set that was also posted on the planet and scooped up quickly.

In other words, the Planet classified section is the best place for hard to find stuff. :)

[JoFotoz]

You can also search:-

89 Trooper
RS Trooper
Two dr trooper
Trooper Snowflake

...etc!

Its a real lottery as it just depends how the seller describes stuff.


Jo

[JoFotoz]

Oh and JBTW..&^%$ !!

The guy with the 4.77's in Yakima promised them to me..

"First Dibs" to quote.

He was checking shipping etc so I knew how much to send him.

E-mail this morning:-

"Sorry jo, a guy locally wants the stuff, I know you had first dibs but cash talks."


So much for Honoring his word...:mad:

Jo

[vt_maverick]

Couldn't offer more? You were willing to pay $1300 before (albeit for plug and play).

What a d1ck though. We'll keep looking.

[JoFotoz]

The $1300 was for a whole different set up...


Couldn't offer more? You were willing to pay $1300 before (albeit for plug and play).

What a d1ck though. We'll keep looking.

...which included two lockers and fully reconditioned/rebuilt units.

I probably would of paid more, he didnt give me the chance.
But having been told "first dibs"..
...I took him at his word, and figured it was a done deal, except for sorting out shipping cost.

Oh well....aint nuttin I can do abooot it .

Jo

[tom4bren]

Jo,

vt_mav sent me a link to an 89 Trooper on CL in my neck of the woods. I just called about it. The guy knows nothing about the truck other than it has a 6 cyl engine, 5 speed tranny & 4WD. He didn't even know if it was a 2 door until he stepped outside to look (it's a 4 door). From what I've read, since it's a 4 door it doesn't have the 4.77s you're looking for - correct?

[JoFotoz]

Hi Tom

There seems to be conflicting views on this :o

Some say 2 dr only, others include 4 door.

If its a 4 door with 4.77's the manufacturers plate under the hood
should have option code 6NZ on it...as far as I know!

Is this a whole vehicle, or for parts.

Thanks

jo

[tom4bren]

Whole vehicle for $1500. Still runs strong. This could be a group effort thang ... if someone is wanting to do the 5 sp swap. Lemme know if you want me to check into any further.

[JoFotoz]

Thanks Tom...


Whole vehicle for $1500. Still runs strong. This could be a group effort thang ... if someone is wanting to do the 5 sp swap. Lemme know if you want me to check into any further.

Its probably worth finding out if it has the 4.77's...:thumbup:

Jo

[tom4bren]

It has the 2.8L engine & the only 3 digit code he could find is V4W. I don't think that this one is going to pan out for us in any way.

[JoFotoz]

Thanks Tom..I appreciate all the help :thumbup:

Jo

[vt_maverick]

I probably would of paid more, he didnt give me the chance.
But having been told "first dibs"..
...I took him at his word, and figured it was a done deal, except for sorting out shipping cost.


What a jerk. I'll keep looking...

[VXorado]

What a jerk. I'll keep looking...

+1 :upsetgray

[JoFotoz]

No Kidding!!


+1 :upsetgray

But hey...many thanks for all your effort on this one.

:_beer:

Jo

[VXorado]

No Kidding!!

But hey...many thanks for all your effort on this one.

:_beer:

Jo

No problem :bgwo:

We'll get those pesky 4.77s sooner or later.