new LED Headlight bulb conversions (not HID)

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

(sort of saw this coming, the new Audis just started with an actual
LED bulb in one of their new models.. and Ive been selling some
off-road light bars now for about a yr) ..BUT

Ive had HIDs like most of us in my car now for about 10 yrs
Recently while at SEMA I came across a company who is making
LED replacement bulbs.
I was a bit skeptical as always, so I bought a set for my
Isuzu Vehicross (H4 non projector headlight) and a set of
9006 for my SVX in 5k kelvin rating.

I installed 1 on the right side of my svx and compared it to
the 6K HID that was in the left side of my SVX..
I have to admit, think Im leaving them in !!!
The light output whiter (due to the 5k compared to 6k of course)
but the pattern lites up much better in the first 20 30 ft in front of
the car.
For long distance, I still have 5k HIDs for waaayyyy down the road stuff
but think Im going to stick with the LEDs in my lows for now.

I havent put the H4 set in my Vehicross yet to see how they react
to non projector headlights, but thats next.
These dont use ballast of either and are not as easily breakable like std
halogen or HID bulbs, kind of a plus.

We are going to sell these kits prob for about $150 set.
Ill post some pics.

http://motorsportwarehouse.com/space/led.jpg

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

POV from pass side outside the car with just the 1
new LED installed and no headlight on the dr side..

http://motorsportwarehouse.com/space/led5.jpg

I plan on putting the set of H4 kit I have for my
Vehicross in in the next few days.
Ill post more info etc once I do it.

my Subaru SVX below

http://motorsportwarehouse.com/space/led1.jpg

[ZeroSix]

The SVX has a Projector lens.... Hmm.. Just thinking out loud... I miss my SVX..

[pbkid]

I'd definitely be interested in thesd... Keep us updated!

[clipper 03 rodeo]

I'm tempted to get a set myself. It looks like it has a decent heat sink and has a cooling fan, so the heat shouldn't be too big of a deal.

I saw they already have these kits on Ebay for $140 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Xenon-White-15W-High-Power-H4-LED-Bulbs-Upgrade-For-Headlights-Fog-Lamps-/130803399036?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e747d797c&vxp=mtr

[VXorado]

Very cool, I was wondering when LEDs headlight bulbs would make it to aftermarket mods. :thumbup:

Impressive light output for no ballasts. I bet the glare is petty bad coming off the reflectors but no worse than an HID conversion.

[blacksambo]

I'm interested if plug and play.

[VxSport]

I would be interested in trying one of these kits too. I was wondering when LED headlights would hit the market.

[clipper 03 rodeo]

Very cool, I was wondering when LEDs headlight bulbs would make it to aftermarket mods. :thumbup:

Impressive light output for no ballasts. I bet the glare is petty bad coming off the reflectors but no worse than an HID conversion.

Ballast in HID kits are only used to convert and regulate the flow of current from 55w down to 35w (normal HID kit wattage). These kits come with their own control module which does the same thing, just down to 15w.

[kinnaq]

I would be interested in trying one of these kits too. I was wondering when LED headlights would hit the market.

Actually the Military has been using LED headlights in the Original Hummer for 6 yrs. now.

[gunbarrelvx]

I am ready to buy. Lightbulb just went out in my vx this morning. Time to upgrade.

How hard are these to install?

[OKCVX]

?:smilegray

[LittleBeast]

I'll take a set of H3 for my fogs as soon as you get them in. Anyway you could throw in a relay?

[blacksambo]

I'm tempted to get a set myself. It looks like it has a decent heat sink and has a cooling fan, so the heat shouldn't be too big of a deal.

I saw they already have these kits on Ebay for $140 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Xenon-White-15W-High-Power-H4-LED-Bulbs-Upgrade-For-Headlights-Fog-Lamps-/130803399036?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e747d797c&vxp=mtr

Says not VX compatible on the ebay listing?

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

yes sir still selling them..
mostly to locals, but some mail orders too

[eternal21]

I plan on putting the set of H4 kit I have for my Vehicross in in the next few days. Ill post more info etc once I do it.
Where are you on this?

[LittleBeast]

I still want a set of H3's for my fogs.....

Is that possible?

[44ficus44]

how does it react with the non projector vehicross fixtures? I just blew one ballast off my hids and its annoying.... might change over

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

Our kits now have Low and Hi beam on them
the Lumans are now up to 2000
and the new kits are the same price as the first Gen kits.
Im really liking the new kits and they are on the shelf ready
to ship.
Now I have LED Im not going back to HID at this point :)

http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/new%20led2.jpg

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

there are 2 large LEDs per bulb
1 for low and 1 for highbeam

http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/new%20led3.jpg

[yellowgizmo99]

so is it the same price? cann't seem to find it on web site.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

sorry for the delay, they are up there now
on special too but they wont be this cheap for long..
Hope to get some people here to get some on their trucks
and get their opinions on the product.
Mine have a 30 day money back garauntee too, if you dont
like them, Ill give you a refund or credit in the shop for HIDs if
thats your choice or anything else in the shop we offer for the VX.
thanks
Dayle
planetsvx.com

[yellowgizmo99]

So is the 2000Lm for each LED or is it 1/2 for each on the H4? I guess I am wondering if both LED's stay on with high and just one on low. Thanks.

[Mile High VX]

Do you have any pics?

It is a plug and play install?

Thanks.

[JAMAS]

Do you have any pics?

It is a plug and play install?

Thanks.

"Complete Plug & Play headlight conversion"

http://svx-motorsport-accessories.stores.yahoo.net/crledhebu.html

[GAMEON]

how well do these work in a non projector housing? I tried HID's in my sport bike (non projector housing) and absolutely hated them. I couldnt see with them in. There were a 5k 35w kit. I changed them out for PIAA Xtreme White halogen bulbs and can see so much better.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

they work great I think in projector (my subaru)
and non, my VX.

HIDs put out a lot different pattern and Ive seen the
problems you mention with HIDs btw.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

So is the 2000Lm for each LED or is it 1/2 for each on the H4? I guess I am wondering if both LED's stay on with high and just one on low. Thanks.


these are actually 3000L (box was from the first Gen)
thats the good news, Ill figure out hi low kits which turn
on and when...but Ill take mine out today and try to see
the diff on hi and low for you.

[Triathlete]

Take some night shots of the light output also please.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

I can, but I can tell you right now, it can be a little misleading
most cameras will adjust and keep the aperture open longer
making for a nice pic, but it doesnt always give an accurate
acct of how much light you are getting in person.
I know this because Ive tried it in the past.
I can try to take some more this weekend if you want, Im
waiting for my Sony camera to get back from repair.

[Mile High VX]

Since you're both in Tucson maybe a head to head meet up would help...:bwgy::smilewink:bgwo::bgwb:

[yellowgizmo99]

yea, different first hand look would be nice, was getting ready to put projector in extra headlights I have for HID's, would whether just PNP.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

my shops on 1st Ave
call before you come by, Im there everyday but sunday, usually
from 11-530..

321 9500
would be great to meet you :) and Ill show you some of the
stuff we have in person

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

the LED closer to the Tip is your LOW BEAM
when you hit the high beam, that stays ON
while the LED closer to the base also goes on.
Pretty sweet if you ask me and as long as your lenses
are clean and clear, overall results I cant imagine anyone
not really satisfied with a set :)
The instant on is a nice feature, 1 thing I dont like about
HIDs are they take a minute or so to warm up and be 100%
effective.
http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/led55.jpg

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

Ill do some nite pics this weekend..
I just put a set of these in my wife Subie

http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/led66.jpg

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

All my kits have a 14 day money back no questions asked
warranty, if you buy a set you have 2 weeks to install and
use them, if for any reason you dont like them, box them
up in the original boxes etc and send them back in the mail
for full refund (all but the $8 S&H we charge to get them out)

We have some cool panel Dome lites too for our VXs and
today, I installed come hi powerd LEDs bulbs in my front
facing round running lights,
They are huge 194 projector style bulbs, and look awesome nite or
day, I use drive around with my parking lights on by day
and they make for a cool DRL .

above them in my horns, I have matching
LEDs in there too, a little smaller.

http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/drls.jpg

[vt_maverick]

So when the website says 2 "drivers" are those analogous to ballasts for HID kits? If I'm running an HID kit can I just swap out the ballast and HID bulb for this kit? Just wondering how much conversion work would be required.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

LEDs use drivers, not compatible with ballast used on HIDs

[GAMEON]

im still waiting for pix of the led headlight bulbs in the VX. Was still not clean on if the light from the LED's scatter like HID's do in a non projector housing.

And i like the fog/driving lights and "horns" Do you have links to your site for those bulbs?

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

I may have time to do some pics tonite..
btw, I liked my HIDs in my VX for the lst 3 yrs, no real
complaints at all from me.

On the other bulbs, I didnt add it to the site yet, but Im
hoping to any day now.
Think Im going to sell them as a 4 pcs Hyperwhite LED bulb
kit for the horns and front turns..
The plugs are a little finicky with the small 194 bulbs, if they
are too loose and dont make a good connection, you guessed it
of course they wont turn on.
The aftermarket world when matched with older used parts
is never dull :)

[GAMEON]

I may have time to do some pics tonite..
btw, I liked my HIDs in my VX for the lst 3 yrs, no real
complaints at all from me.

On the other bulbs, I didnt add it to the site yet, but Im
hoping to any day now.
Think Im going to sell them as a 4 pcs Hyperwhite LED bulb
kit for the horns and front turns..
The plugs are a little finicky with the small 194 bulbs, if they
are too loose and dont make a good connection, you guessed it
of course they wont turn on.
The aftermarket world when matched with older used parts
is never dull :)

Great and thats good to know. Thank you for being so responsive to all of our questions too.

My lights above my blinkers dont even come on. I have no switch for them inside, but haven't looked at them to see if there are even any wires or bulbs in them either (plan on doing that this weekend). Should I have a switch for those or should they come on when the parking lights are on?

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

my horn lites come in with my parking lights..
I bet your bulbs are just burnt out.
you can get to them with the hood open

[GAMEON]

no my horn lights work fine. im talking about the lights above the blinkers and below the headlights.

[Bill Brown]

Curious to hear from VXers that have made the leap into 2014 by converting all their VX external lights from incandescent to LED lighting. Any afterthoughts or recommendations?

I intend to make that leap soon as I get the details on recommended LEDs for the VX from Vehi-Cross-Az. I plan to have an automotive shop rewire the front parking lights (round ones between the headlights and turn signals) into manually controlled DRLs, separate from the parking lights.

[eternal21]

Curious to hear from VXers that have made the leap into 2014 by converting all their VX external lights from incandescent to LED lighting. Any afterthoughts or recommendations?

I intend to make that leap soon as I get the details on recommended LEDs for the VX from Vehi-Cross-Az. I plan to have an automotive shop rewire the front parking lights (round ones between the headlights and turn signals) into manually controlled DRLs, separate from the parking lights.

http://vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=25392

[Bill Brown]

http://vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=25392http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/drls.jpg
I was interested in VXers that replaced all of their external incandescent bulbs with LEDs, as Vehi-Cross-Az appears to have done (see VX, above).

[eternal21]

I've replaced my horn lights w/Sylvania LEDs. $11 shipped Amazon.
I've replaced my side markers w/Sylvania LEDs. $11 shipped, Amazon.
I've replaced my headlights with, you guessed it, LEDs. Linked in my thread.
I've replaced my fogs with Xenon HIDs.

At some point, I plan on doing the rears, as well.

The purpose of my link was to encourage you to shop around. Take a *good, hard look* at the prices.

[Bill Brown]

I've replaced my horn lights w/Sylvania LEDs. $11 shipped Amazon.
I've replaced my side markers w/Sylvania LEDs. $11 shipped, Amazon.
I've replaced my headlights with, you guessed it, LEDs. Linked in my thread.
I've replaced my fogs with Xenon HIDs.

At some point, I plan on doing the rears, as well.

The purpose of my link was to encourage you to shop around. Take a *good, hard look* at the prices.Gotcha. Thanks for sharing the info. Amazon.com offers quite a variety of LEDs. I was concerned about ordering LEDs that fit the VX. The VX printed manual has dashes in the bulb no. column for all but the front turn signal. What sizes did you use for the front parking lights and horn lights? TIA.

[eternal21]

Gotcha. Thanks for sharing the info. Amazon.com offers quite a variety of LEDs. I was concerned about ordering LEDs that fit the VX. The VX printed manual has dashes in the bulb no. column for all but the front turn signal. What sizes did you use for the front parking lights and horn lights? TIA.

These fit both: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AIJY2ZM/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

They come in singles, so you will need 4. I did a bunch of searching prior to ordering, and Amazon has them the cheapest. You can pick them up @ AutoZone, but Amazon Prime has free shipping, so you'll save a few $ by ordering them.

[LittleBeast]

VLEDs and SuperBrightLEDs are my two favorite. SuperBrightLEDs has a vehicle selector and it works great.

[Bill Brown]

VLEDs and SuperBrightLEDs are my two favorite. SuperBrightLEDs has a vehicle selector and it works great.No doubt the story behind your front parking lights is posted here somewhere. Could you post a link to how you replaced your stock parking lights?

[Mile High VX]

This should help you get a start:

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=20498&highlight=projector

[David Wiltshire]

What a coincidence I too have owned an SVX in the past as well great car another JDM import I have owned in the UK. The headlights on my VX are a bit dim/naff so may look into this bearing in mind my VX is right hand drive

[Bill Brown]

Successfully replaced exterior incandescent bulbs with LED bulbs, except for the brake lights and headlights. Now my turn signals are probably visible by astronauts on the space station. I am very happy with the appearance of the intense lights.

Having lived most of my childhood and teen years in Germany, I'm accustom to seeing turn signals used often. In Germany, even emergency responders with lights and sirens use their turn signals to indicate lane changes and upcoming turns. I prefer drivers use turn signals for safety and out of courtesy. So I use mine to indicate my turns and lane changes, religiously. Can't miss those intense LED turn signal lights, now.

Ordered a pair of Spyder LED brake lights, along with the other LED bulbs, from Amazon.com. The 1156 turn signal LED bulbs were shipped directly from China and work fine. Also shipped directly from China were a pair of 1157 brake light Spyder LED bulbs ($21.28/pair) with a circular base diameter slightly too wide for the VX tail light. Broke one of the LED "spider legs" when attempting to install it. I imagine getting a refund will be a "mission impossible". Just submitted a refund request to Amazon.com.

LED headlight kit ($69) came direct from China, but I haven't opened that package, yet.

[Bill Brown]

Old age taking its toll. Couldn't even remove the existing headlight bulbs to begin installing the LED light system, which looked to be a straight forward task. Will return to Alltech (http://www.alltechautoclovisca.com/) to have their pros do the job.

After a couple email exchanges, managed to get a full refund on those Spyder lights that didn't fit the VX tail light assembly. Stopped by the local O'Reilly Automotive Parts Store and bought a pair of 1157 red LED lights for $16.99, which work perfectly. Their intense light output is focused toward the rear.

[MSHardeman]

Bill, it's not old age stopping you from putting the headlight bulbs in. It's super tight behind the headlights for sure. I can, usually, get the passenger side out and in easily enough, but I usually have to remove the air filter box in order to get to the drivers side light.

[eternal21]

Bill, it's not old age stopping you from putting the headlight bulbs in. It's super tight behind the headlights for sure.

+1. I messed around with that, and got tired of it. It was much easier to just go ahead and remove the bumper and pull the headlights, and the fact that I have a winch and brushguard and was willing to disconnect it all says something.

[Bill Brown]

+1. I messed around with that, and got tired of it. It was much easier to just go ahead and remove the bumper and pull the headlights, and the fact that I have a winch and brushguard and was willing to disconnect it all says something.Well, did install a new Trooper skid plate to protect the transmission shortly after purchase in 1999. That Trooper skid plate fit perfectly to the VX. As I faintly recall, the biggest challenge was buying screws to fit the pre-drilled holes in the frame. Can't imagine removing the front end, though.

[Mile High VX]

Well, did install a new Trooper skid plate to protect the transmission shortly after purchase in 1999. That Trooper skid plate fit perfectly to the VX. As I faintly recall, the biggest challenge was buying screws to fit the pre-drilled holes in the frame. Can't imagine removing the front end, though.

I removed mine to take out the headlights and install some factory headlight gaskets. Here's the write up and the removal is really simple it just seems to be a lot when you look at it...:smilewink:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy:

http://www.vehicross.info/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=78

[Bill Brown]

I removed mine to take out the headlights and install some factory headlight gaskets. Here's the write up and the removal is really simple it just seems to be a lot when you look at it...:smilewink:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy:

http://www.vehicross.info/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=78Thanks for the link. Yikes!:eekgray: Looked like at least 2-3 weeks of hard labor to me. Your headlight lenses looked to be in mint condition. Last week, had mine professionally buffed and treated, but there is some light fogging on the top, inside. The overall treated appearance came out nice, though. Had considered new ones, but $450 each was a bit too pricey in my book.

[Mile High VX]

Thanks for the link. Yikes!:eekgray: Looked like at least 2-3 weeks of hard labor to me. Your headlight lenses looked to be in mint condition. Last week, had mine professionally buffed and treated, but there is some light fogging on the top, inside. The overall treated appearance came out nice, though. Had considered new ones, but $450 each was a bit too pricey in my book.

Thanks and I have that same foggy/dusty look in the top of mine also. There is a member here that you can ship to and have them done inside and outside but my memory fails me as to whom that is.

[tribalvx]

Do you think these would work in the projectors i have on my VX?

[eternal21]

Well, did install a new Trooper skid plate to protect the transmission shortly after purchase in 1999. That Trooper skid plate fit perfectly to the VX. As I faintly recall, the biggest challenge was buying screws to fit the pre-drilled holes in the frame. Can't imagine removing the front end, though.

Honestly, now that I've done it a few times, it takes like 5 mins, tops. Grille comes out (2 10mm bolts on top and 2/3 screws in the grille face, can't remember exactly), then you take off the cladding screws, and including the screws in the wheel wells and the 3 underneath. Slides right off after that.

[Bill Brown]

Honestly, now that I've done it a few times, it takes like 5 mins, tops. Grill comes out (2 10mm bolts on top and 2/3 screws in the grill face, can't remember exactly), then you take off the cladding screws, and including the screws in the wheel wells and the 3 underneath. Slides right off after that.Well, I know I'm not alone when it comes to tinkering and things not going as intended. The Alltech pros cracked the interior covering left of the brake pedal when replacing the flasher. They pointed out the damage and advised they would replace it at no charge. Don't know specifically how it got cracked. Seems out of the way from what they were working on.:confused:

[Cobrajet]

Well, I know I'm not alone when it comes to tinkering and things not going as intended. The Alltech pros cracked the interior covering left of the brake pedal when replacing the flasher. They pointed out the damage and advised they would replace it at no charge. Don't know specifically how it got cracked. Seems out of the way from what they were working on.:confused:

Probably from cramming a 230 pound grease monkey in a 150 pound space. :)

[CrzyFool]

Ordered 4 of these

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AIJY2ZM/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

Already have HD PIAA fogs in the grill, will see how these add to the equation ^__^

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

those are mostly like 194 bulbs, which will fit in your
upper Horn parts of the headlight and or front corner
fender light too, or your license plate bulbs.

I actually sell those for like $7 each just fyi..
but their price isnt too bad.

[Bill Brown]

Ordered 4 of these

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AIJY2ZM/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

Already have HD PIAA fogs in the grill, will see how these add to the equation ^__^I'm happy with these. I like that the LEDs are sealed in bulbs. I installed them in the side markers, fender "horns" and front parking lights. They are intensely bright and clearly visible in daylight. Had the fender horn lights and front parking lights wired to an independent fog light switch, which I use as DRLs.