scared meself!!!

[Scott Larson]

Tom, yer blindin' me with science...http://youtu.be/nMWGXt979yg

[ZEUS]

Every THREE days!!!??? Holy crap that's a lot of driving! That would be a good test, setting it back to OEM some time just to verify.

[FlyingV77]

Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

[tom4bren]

Every THREE days!!!??? Holy crap that's a lot of driving!

Yep, 45 miles to work ... uphill both ways. It takes anywhere from 1 to 3 hours each way.

[ZEUS]

Yep, 45 miles to work ... uphill both ways. It takes anywhere from 1 to 3 hours each way.
Depending on how many wrecks you get in along the way, right? :bwgy:

[tom4bren]

Depending on how many wrecks you get in along the way, right? :bwgy:

ZAKRY

You almost jinxed me though. This morning some bonehead decided that he really needed to occupy the same space in my lane that I was in. I wussed out though & let them have it (just wasn't in the mood to argue).

[ZEUS]

Oops. No whammies, no whammies!
Luckily, you already know where to go when you are in the mood to argue!

[tom4bren]

I have no response to that.:)

[Y33TREKker]

/\ /\ /\ /\ Kat.....lol

Well, I've said all I wanted and needed to say in this thread. I guess he'll eventually stop when everybody else stops. Let him have the last word....my gosh, he put a lot of effort and passion into this thread, into trying to prove something (I lost his intent many pages ago)...he deserves it.
And what have you proven, that you think you're contributing to the conversation with your occasional 2 cents even though you admit you don't even know the intent of the conversation?

Since we're discussing things deserved though, let's consider the individual offers of "help" I've received (included your multiple offers in this thread VXObsession) that were presented in the form of shared wisdom: such as pointing out that I'd be saving a lot of time, trouble, and mental energy for myself by simply ending my membership on this website and never coming back, and/or, just dropping any such discussions when it becomes obvious that no progress is being made.

Such examples of wisdom have no doubt proven true, but, only in retrospect.

While those examples of wisdom were probably intended to be viewed as being selfless in nature, and would have as suggested no doubt saved the time, trouble, and mental energy involved being more often than not ultimately wasted, it's only possible to view them that way with the benefit of hindsight. (Which incidentally, only made your comments make even less sense since it's been comments like yours that have ended up proving that my time has been wasted. Oh the irony).

When that wisdom has been based on the apparent idea that simply accepting the attitude I've been referring to would be best for everyone though, is that proposed wisdom actually wisdom, or is it simply an illustration of some having given up trying to make a positive difference just trying to perpetuate such a fatalistic view as the norm? (And in the process, conveniently making themselves appear as the individuals with the "normal" viewpoint).

After all, when such wisdom has been offered, it's been fairly obvious it would be better served if no one took the time to consider the facts that me following such wisdom and limiting my presence here in such ways WOULD ALSO JUST HAPPEN to result in the by-product of some members here not having to be reminded of the past discussions they've participated in where they've exhibited the attitude in question...having to wonder every time they see my user ID on a post on this message board whether they're going to be reminded of those past discussions once again...and saving THOSE members a lot of time, trouble, and mental energy trying to defend their past and current exhibitions of said attitude.

While that would obviously benefit SOME here, it sure doesn't add up to creating an environment that is equitable or progressive for all does it? (Rhetorical question)

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate some of you offering to "help" me save my time and effort for other more productive endeavors, but apparently, what you've apparently been imagining as taking a lot of time, effort and passion for me to respond to your comments in these threads actually only takes me a few minutes each time because this is second nature stuff for me (you're the ones who still don't get it and apparently keep having to actually think about it). Similarly to what you said before though, if you're one who continues to illustrate the attitude I've been discussing regardless of who you are or what you do for a living, I can only imagine how much misguided time, effort, and passion it must take a person to come up with posts that try to make exhibiting or defending the attitude we've been discussing sound logical and/or intended to promote the greater good for all site members. It must be exhausting... ;)

And since you also brought up last words, surely you'll understand that I didn't make these comments because I needed to say them and have the last word, but instead said them because they simply needed to be said...and because you deserved it.

[Y33TREKker]

Trekkie my boy, you fracture me...really!! "I know you are but what am I", hilarity beyond words dude...:laugho: I take it all back, stay off your meds cuz you're much more entertaining when yer straight!:rotate:

Simple typo or Freudian slip? Hmmmmm...:_confused I'm just glad I thought to quote it so it didn't magically disappear!:rollo:
You obviously still don't realize it, but you're one of the last people here who should be bringing up Freudian issues. ;)

[Y33TREKker]

Please 'splain to me how it's not.
I already have...MULTIPLE times.

[tom4bren]

Sorry ... but nope. You said that it's not the same but didn't 'splain how the end effect would be any different.

[LittleBeast]

BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.SameOldSameOld.BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.Ridic ulouslyTooLongPostThatNoOneButTrekWillActuallyRead .Blah.Blah.blah.

*Fixed it*

[Frankenstein]

*Fixed it*

Ha ha ha! 2 cents :bwgy:

[Scott Larson]

:bla:... And that's why I hate Chihuahuas...

[Y33TREKker]

Sorry ... but nope. You said that it's not the same but didn't 'splain how the end effect would be any different.
You just keep telling yourself you're right about that Tom...that's obviously what you do best.

[Y33TREKker]

*Fixed it*

Ha ha ha! 2 cents :bwgy:
And some of you guys and girls claim I'M the person here who is close-minded. :rolleyes:

[Y33TREKker]

:bla:... And that's why I hate Chihuahuas...
Still can't think of any original comebacks by yourself I see.

And I've even been giving you a lot of extra time lately... ;)

[Scott Larson]

Yap,yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, nip, nip, nip, nip, nip...ad nauseam! There Trekkie, hows that for original my little Pom-Chi? :p ;)

[Scott Larson]

And some of you guys and girls claim I'M the person here who is close-minded. :rolleyes:

Closed-minded is the more logical spelling of the phrasal adjective meaning intolerant of others or unreceptive to new ideas. Closed-minded is logical because we wouldn't say of an intolerant person that his mind is close, which would mean literally that his mind is near. Instead, we would say his mind is closed. Some dictionaries do list not open as one of the many adjectival definitions of close, but in actual 21st-century usage close usually gives way to closed for this sense. Still, logic rarely holds sway over English usage or the rantings of you Trekkie.:p

[Ldub]

The problem with your logic is that there is also a random collection of members that DO happen to share my opinion. Just because they choose not to voice that opinion publicly (for good reason) doesn't automatically mean you can assume they don't exist.

Most of my imaginary friends had disappeared by the time I was 3 or 4...I still have a couple, but DUDE...rlly?

:laughing:

[ZEUS]

"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."

[Ldub]

"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."


Mebbe took Willie to tha house of mirrors?...:rotate:

[tom4bren]

You just keep telling yourself you're right about that Tom...that's obviously what you do best.

WTF???

Why so SNARKY?

I was honestly asking your opinion as to why you feel the current solution yields different results than my original 'proposed' approach.

If you'd rather just pick at the scab from earlier discussions though, I'll let it go.

[FlyingV77]

what was this thread originally about? i forgets

[ZEUS]

710 unicorns, if I remember correctly.

[Ldub]

WTF???

Why so SNARKY?

I was honestly asking your opinion as to why you feel the current solution yields different results than my original 'proposed' approach.

If you'd rather just pick at the scab from earlier discussions though, I'll let it go.

Sooooooooo....it hasn't become abundantly clear to you?

It's everyone else....most definitely NOT tha chi-pom.

SHEESH...try N keep up, will ya?...:laughing:

BTW, what'd ya use for baffling in your can?

[Scott Larson]

That's a rather personal question there Dub...what's in his can is his business!:rotate:

[tom4bren]

what'd ya use for baffling in your can?

None. It appears that with long (& uphill) run on my hoses, all of the oil condenses inside the hose & runs back into the valve cover. So far I haven't collected any oil in the can.

If I were collecting any though, I'd probably just use steel wool. I'd probably also add a drop tube on the intake to about 1/2 way into the baffling.

[tom4bren]

Sooooooooo....it hasn't become abundantly clear to you?

Nah, I'm a leeeetle dense. Prolly comes from being wrong so often despite the fact that I tell everyone that I'm never wrong.

[tom4bren]

That's a rather personal question there Dub...what's in his can is his business!:rotate:

I have no response to that.

[Scott Larson]

Yer response was that ya went and told him what's in yer can, now everybody knows, NUTTIN...

[tom4bren]

Yer response was that ya went and told him what's in yer can, now everybody knows, NUTTIN...

I ... Um ... Err ... Um ... Well ...

CRAP, Yer right!!!

:slap:

[Y33TREKker]

Yap,yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, nip, nip, nip, nip, nip...ad nauseam! There Trekkie, hows that for original my little Pom-Chi? :p ;)
THAT was actually great Scott, since it proved you to be the ankle-biter I've been saying you are.

[Y33TREKker]

Closed-minded is the more logical spelling of the phrasal adjective meaning intolerant of others or unreceptive to new ideas. Closed-minded is logical because we wouldn't say of an intolerant person that his mind is close, which would mean literally that his mind is near. Instead, we would say his mind is closed. Some dictionaries do list not open as one of the many adjectival definitions of close, but in actual 21st-century usage close usually gives way to closed for this sense. Still, logic rarely holds sway over English usage or the rantings of you Trekkie.:p
Leave it to you to go "literally" mental over a typo.

From you I usually expect nothing more though.

[Y33TREKker]

Most of my imaginary friends had disappeared by the time I was 3 or 4...I still have a couple, but DUDE...rlly?

:laughing:

"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."
Well as I've already said, any or all of you (and you apparently know who you are) are free to believe what I've said is not true if you like, but you believing it doesn't make it a reality.

[Y33TREKker]

WTF???

Why so SNARKY?

I was honestly asking your opinion as to why you feel the current solution yields different results than my original 'proposed' approach.

If you'd rather just pick at the scab from earlier discussions though, I'll let it go.
Snarky?

That's a convenient way for you to try to portray my answer Tom, especially when what you're asking me now has ONCE AGAIN been changed from what you were asking before.

When you conveniently change your questions like that, OF COURSE the previous answer isn't going to apply to the current question, but resorting to such things to try to direct attention away from your own confusion only makes you appear to be the person picking at scabs from earlier discussions.

Once again though, your original "proposed" approach didn't include the vent-to-atmosphere-filter being used in your current solution...so it simply isn't the same setup you keep telling yourself it is...

[Y33TREKker]

Sooooooooo....it hasn't become abundantly clear to you?

It's everyone else....most definitely NOT tha chi-pom.

SHEESH...try N keep up, will ya?...:laughing:

BTW, what'd ya use for baffling in your can?
Proving yourself ALSO unable to follow along...

[Y33TREKker]

That's a rather personal question there Dub...what's in his can is his business!:rotate:
Interesting that that's where YOU went with that. ;)

[Scott Larson]

Leave it to you to go "literally" mental over a typo.

From you I usually expect nothing more though.

I think I shall name you "Princess", that sounds all self-important and shall we say, "yappy". From such a regal little pooch I would not expect such grammatical errors, so in the future please proof-read your posts and refrain from extemporaneous "yapping"...Don't make me get the bark collar!! Now, go lay down by your dish!! :slap:

[Ldub]

but you believing it doesn't make it a reality.

likewise, i'm sure...


can't believe you've fallen back on tha "i know you are, what am i" retort...though no one expects much more of you...:thumbup:

[Ldub]

Interesting that that's where YOU went with that. ;)

all everyone else sees..."i know you are, what am i?"

[VX KAT]

Yap,yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, nip, nip, nip, nip, nip...ad nauseam! There Trekkie, hows that for original my little Pom-Chi? :p ;)

Hey now wait a minute here, my Pom resembles that remark! :mad:
Just ask Dub! :yeso:




Most of my imaginary friends had disappeared by the time I was 3 or 4...I still have a couple, but DUDE...rlly?
:laughing:
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"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/banana_smiley_24.gif



Mebbe took Willie to tha house of mirrors?...:rotate:http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif





Sooooooooo....it hasn't become abundantly clear to you?

It's everyone else....most definitely NOT tha chi-pom.

SHEESH...try N keep up, will ya?...:laughing:
Hey, yuz be insultin' me Pom again! http://www.pic4ever.com/images/vahidrk.gif
Don't make me have cute little cuddly Teddy Bear come over there..... again!




Nah, I'm a leeeetle dense. Prolly comes from being wrong so often despite the fact that I tell everyone that I'm never wrong.
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/loudlaff.gif




Don't make me get the bark collar!! Now, go lay down by your dish!! :slap:http://www.pic4ever.com/images/funny.gif





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.

[ZEUS]

Well as I've already said, any or all of you (and you apparently know who you are) are free to believe what I've said is not true if you like, but you believing it doesn't make it a reality.
Hey, I just think "Random collection of members" sounds funny! With that said though, I have been tempted to ask you to start a poll regarding these apparently atrocious contrasting views you repeatedly mention. Votes are anonymous. I want to see how many peeps you are in cahoots with behind the scenes - 1 or 5 or 50 or 100?! Obviously, that is the exact opposite of the 'ignore' function. However, it could be very simple & perhaps even educational fun (I already have some rules & goals of a game all written out)... what do ya say? Are you ready for us all to realize your following?

[Ldub]

Hey, I just think "Random collection of members" sounds funny! With that said though, I have been tempted to ask you to start a poll regarding these apparently atrocious contrasting views you repeatedly mention. Votes are anonymous. I want to see how many peeps you are in cahoots with behind the scenes - 1 or 5 or 50 or 100?! Obviously, that is the exact opposite of the 'ignore' function. However, it could be very simple & perhaps even educational fun (I already have some rules & goals of a game all written out)... what do ya say? Are you ready for us all to realize your following?


where's that dam "like" button when ya need it...:_thinking

[tom4bren]

Snarky?

SNARKY - yep, I find your demeanor very abrasive.

That's a convenient way for you to try to portray my answer Tom, especially when what you're asking me now has ONCE AGAIN been changed from what you were asking before.

Nope. I've asked you the same question 3 times now. How is the end result of what I've done different from what I originally proposed? Venting to atmosphere should have the same effect on crank case pressure as venting to the combustion chamber in my mind. I'm just curious as to why you feel it's different.

When you conveniently change your questions like that, OF COURSE the previous answer isn't going to apply to the current question, but resorting to such things to try to direct attention away from your own confusion only makes you appear to be the person picking at scabs from earlier discussions.

T'wasn't confused. Merely asking your opinion since you have positioned yourself as the ultimate authority on the subject.

Once again though, your original "proposed" approach didn't include the vent-to-atmosphere-filter being used in your current solution...so it simply isn't the same setup you keep telling yourself it is...

I never said it was the same solution. I said it was a different approach to the same result.

Let me explain myself one more time so that you don't have to search through hundreds of posts looking for the perfect quote.

I still feel that a crossover tube would be a means of removing one variable from the problem we experience with oil consumption. I don't feel that it is the source of all of the issue but it's easy enough to install one to find out ... except that I didn't think it through in regard to drilling the hole in the valve cover without introducing metal shavings into the crank case. That's the reason that I went with the vent filter temporarily. It's just not worth removing the valve cover at this point in time (I will however drill a hole in Boy's valve cover since it's already off). This is absolutely a Research & Development (R&D) scenario so changes to the concept are not only acceptable, they are expected.

[VXobsession]

This is one of the best threads I've read since I've been a member...

[tom4bren]

This is one of the best threads I've read since I've been a member...

My boy, you definitely have a warped sense of 'enjoyment':)

[dietz99vcross]

This is like the tabloid magazine that you just have to read and then you feel dirty and disappointed that you wasted the time reading it, only to do the same thing when the next edition comes out. Looking forward to the next edition already.

[VXobsession]

My boy, you definitely have a warped sense of 'enjoyment':)

I'm a girl....with 3 VX's....

...and yes, my sense of enjoyment is way more warped than it should be ;)

[tom4bren]

I'm a girl....

OOPS!!!

You'da thunk I'd learnt the difference by now!!! sorry.

:)

[Ldub]

"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."


This is one of the best threads I've read since I've been a member...

Good GRIEF boys & girls...all this talk about "members"...:mbrasd:


Why, I do declayah...ahh thaynk ahh hayuv thah vhaypahs...:_thinking

:laughing:

[Scott Larson]

Do take your medication my fine sir, the vapours are not to be fiddled with, although I must say, the vapours are most often experienced by the fairer sex...

[tom4bren]

... the vapours are not to be fiddled with ...

That all depends on the number of burritos consumed:

[Ldub]

Do take your medication my fine sir, the vapours are not to be fiddled with, although I must say, the vapours are most often experienced by the fairer sex...

Well tell them other folks to stop going on about their "members"...OK, meds taken....all better now.


That all depends on the number of burritos consumed:

Sez tha guy with a CAN....to catch HIS vapors...:slap:

[tom4bren]

Sez tha guy with a CAN....to catch HIS vapors...:slap:

ROFLMAO ... I copied your setup

[Y33TREKker]

Let me explain myself one more time so that you don't have to search through hundreds of posts looking for the perfect quote.

I still feel that a crossover tube would be a means of removing one variable from the problem we experience with oil consumption. I don't feel that it is the source of all of the issue but it's easy enough to install one to find out ... except that I didn't think it through in regard to drilling the hole in the valve cover without introducing metal shavings into the crank case. That's the reason that I went with the vent filter temporarily. It's just not worth removing the valve cover at this point in time (I will however drill a hole in Boy's valve cover since it's already off). This is absolutely a Research & Development (R&D) scenario so changes to the concept are not only acceptable, they are expected.
When I've already provided you with your answer(s), there is no need for me to explain myself once again.

At this point, the only thing that remains a mystery is whether you're just trolling me to try to get me to waste more time answering the same questions...or whether you REALLY haven't understood the answers you've already been provided with.

Either way, I simply don't care about your project any more. Good luck.

[FlyingV77]

But I still care!

[tom4bren]

When I've already provided you with your answer(s), there is no need for me to explain myself once again.

At this point, the only thing that remains a mystery is whether you're just trolling me to try to get me to waste more time answering the same questions...or whether you REALLY haven't understood the answers you've already been provided with.

Either way, I simply don't care about your project any more. Good luck.

Nah, I'm not tolling you. I honestly did want your opinion on why you feel that the end product yields different results from what I had originally planned. That is the only question that remains unanswered.

I agree that it may be OBE anyway since my oil consumption is all over the place right now. One tank of gas it doesn't use any, the next it'll use a 1/2 quart (it doesn't help that there are 2 different drivers so driving styles may have a lot to do with it).

[Y33TREKker]

Nah, I'm not tolling you. I honestly did want your opinion on why you feel that the end product yields different results from what I had originally planned. That is the only question that remains unanswered
That's the thing Tom, that question DOESN'T remain because it's already been answered...more than once.

So if we're to take it as your word that you're not trolling me, the only possibility that remains is that you haven't understood the answer that has ALREADY been provided.

[tom4bren]

...the only possibility that remains is that you haven't understood the answer that has ALREADY been provided.

Please humor me then & answer the question again: How does venting to the atmosphere differ from venting to the combustion chamber IRT oil consumption? I've re-read the thread and can't seem to find it.

[ZEUS]

I've re-read the thread and can't seem to find it.
I wonder why? :p

[Y33TREKker]

Please humor me then & answer the question again: How does venting to the atmosphere differ from venting to the combustion chamber IRT oil consumption? I've re-read the thread and can't seem to find it.
You see, once again you're asking a question about something different than what your original project outlined.

The question you SHOULD be asking is why you keep trying to change the subject, and the person you should be asking is yourself.

I can explain that to you, but I can't understand it for you (and Zeus apparently) too.

[Ldub]

You see, once again you're asking a question about something different than what your original project outlined.

The question you SHOULD be asking is why you keep trying to change the subject, and the person you should be asking is yourself.

I can explain that to you, but I can't understand it for you (and Zeus apparently) too.

You're eventually gonna have to sit down and admit it to yourself Trek...:yesgray:

You are just that much mentally superior to everyone you come in contact with.
Whether it be here on the forums, at work, rest, or play...I'm sure you've noticed it, but are far too humble to admit it, even to yourself.

You are to be commended...:yes:

[Y33TREKker]

You're eventually gonna have to sit down and admit it to yourself Trek...:yesgray:

You are just that much mentally superior to everyone you come in contact with.
Whether it be here on the forums, at work, rest, or play...I'm sure you've noticed it, but are far too humble to admit it, even to yourself.

You are to be commended...:yes:
Just remember, you said that Dub, I didn't. (Not the first time some of you here have tried to put words in my mouth though.)

What some of you are going to have to sit down and admit to yourself at some point is why you continue to feel compelled to do that.

Just for the sake of argument though, let's assume that what you've just accused me of is true. In that regard, I'm sure we all remember examples in life of the average kids ganging up on or singling out the "smart" kid (because he was making them look dumb by comparison through tests scores, etc) just to make THEMSELVES feel better (as opposed to simply studying more to try to improve their OWN test scores).

Sure, those kids being young gives them the excuse that they simply don't know any better...but what's your current excuse?

The expression "some people never grow up" certainly comes to mind anyway. :yes:

[Ldub]

Aw CRAP dude, you ain't got it so bad...in Moab, they try to put BUGS in my mouth...they even got me all likkered up & dragged me into a tattoo parlor...:mbrasd:

So getting words put in yer mouth?...meh...:sleepgray

[Y33TREKker]

Aw CRAP dude, you ain't got it so bad...in Moab, they try to put BUGS in my mouth...they even got me all likkered up & dragged me into a tattoo parlor...:mbrasd:

So getting words put in yer mouth?...meh...:sleepgray
I agree, it could be worse, but bugs in your mouth aside, I couldn't help but notice that your comment conveniently sidestepped addressing the possibility I just suggested.

A tactic you use in discussions on this message board that maybe you should ALSO take to time to question yourself about?

[Ldub]

I agree, it could be worse, but bugs in your mouth aside, I couldn't help but notice that your comment conveniently sidestepped addressing the possibility I just suggested.

A tactic you use in discussions on this message board that maybe you should ALSO take to time to question yourself about?

I'm sorry, but if calling you the smartest guy in the room is considered an "accusation"...I might as well be speaking Klingon...we are unable to communicate on a level I can comprehend...again, sorry :flower:

It's me, not you

[tom4bren]

You see, once again you're asking a question about something different than what your original project outlined.

The question you SHOULD be asking is why you keep trying to change the subject, and the person you should be asking is yourself.

I can explain that to you, but I can't understand it for you (and Zeus apparently) too.

Troll-ekkie,

Apparently I've been giving you more credit than you deserve. I erroneously assumed that since you'd vectored yourself so intimately into the subject that you might have some valuable insight. On that point I was embarrasingly wrong (yes, I can admit it). It's now obvious that you neither have the knowlege base or the social skills to continue the conversation in an adult manner. You should consider your juvenile diatribe an embarrasing mental deficiency rather than a means of obtaining your perverted jollies. I feel sorry for you & unlike the whore jockey, I hope I never meet you face to face.

[ZEUS]

I can explain that to you, but I can't understand it for you (and Zeus apparently) too.
Don't put words in my mouth or your demithoughts in my head.

[Y33TREKker]

I'm sorry, but if calling you the smartest guy in the room is considered an "accusation"...I might as well be speaking Klingon...we are unable to communicate on a level I can comprehend...again, sorry :flower:

It's me, not you
Try to deny it now all you want Dub, but we both know that's what you were suggesting I believed about myself when you made the following comment.


- You are just that much mentally superior to everyone you come in contact with. Whether it be here on the forums, at work, rest, or play...I'm sure you've noticed it, but are far too humble to admit it, even to yourself.
And something else we both know (although maybe aren't aware of in your case) is what you're suggesting every time you make your comments about not comprehending what we're talking about. It's obvious you're simply playing to certain members of the audience who you know agree with you, but it doesn't seem like you've considered the fact that in doing so, you're implying that you and those who agree with you are the smartest guys/girls in the room.

Funny how that works out sometimes isn't it. :p

[Y33TREKker]

Troll-ekkie,

Apparently I've been giving you more credit than you deserve. I erroneously assumed that since you'd vectored yourself so intimately into the subject that you might have some valuable insight. On that point I was embarrasingly wrong (yes, I can admit it). It's now obvious that you neither have the knowlege base or the social skills to continue the conversation in an adult manner. You should consider your juvenile diatribe an embarrasing mental deficiency rather than a means of obtaining your perverted jollies. I feel sorry for you & unlike the whore jockey, I hope I never meet you face to face.
Of course, another possibility is that you don't want to consider the insight I've already provided "valuable" because it wasn't in agreement with what you wanted to hear...and your REACTION...has been to ascribe all of the things to me that you've just said in an effort to deflect attention away from the fact that you simply didn't understand (or want to accept) my answers to your questions.

The answers to the questions you keep repeating are still there, you just don't like them because they've resulted in this thread illustrating that it's actually you who has the various "deficiencies" you've just described.

So call me a troll if it makes you feel better, but someone who was trolling you would have never given you ANY answers to your questions, and the fact of the matter is that I have.

[tom4bren]

Of course, another possibility is that you don't want to consider the insight I've already provided "valuable" because it wasn't in agreement with what you wanted to hear...and your REACTION...has been to ascribe all of the things to me that you've just said in an effort to deflect attention away from the fact that you simply didn't understand (or want to accept) my answers to your questions.

The answers to the questions you keep repeating are still there, you just don't like them because they've resulted in this thread illustrating that it's actually you who has the various "deficiencies" you've just described.

So call me a troll if it makes you feel better, but someone who was trolling you would have never given you ANY answers to your questions, and the fact of the matter is that I have.

You sir, have a terminal case of fecal hoarding.

[Ldub]

Try to deny it now all you want Dub, but we both know that's what you were suggesting I believed about myself when you made the following comment.


And something else we both know (although maybe aren't aware of in your case) is what you're suggesting every time you make your comments about not comprehending what we're talking about. It's obvious you're simply playing to certain members of the audience who you know agree with you, but it doesn't seem like you've considered the fact that in doing so, you're implying that you and those who agree with you are the smartest guys/girls in the room.

Funny how that works out sometimes isn't it. :p

oh yeah...absolutely...It's hilarious...:laughing:

And I figured out whats wrong with me (not you)...I niether comprehend, nor speak, in SPIN.

Mebbe one of my largest shortcomings, is the fact that I gave up on "I know you are, what am I", as an intelligent reply to anything, when I was about 8 or 9. Fleshing out that old saw with more & larger words, gives it no more value than it had in grade school.

My best guess is that you were the kid getting ganged up on & bullied...and rather than taking a moment to reflect upon what might be the reason as why that would be happening, you took a belligerent little turd ball attitude which you carry around to this day...nice chip ya got there...:yesgray:

E-N-J-O-Y !

again...It's everyone ELSE...not YOU...:yes:

Oh, BTW...


So call me a troll if it makes you feel better, but someone who was trolling you would have never given you ANY answers to your questions, and the fact of the matter is that I have.

There have been several attempts made, using the best methods known to modern man, (like actually reading whats in print, right in front of us) and you have NOT given any kind of rational answer to the question...no one else can see ANYTHING that resembles the answer you claim to have provided us with.

And THAT, is how I came to the conclusion that you are just THAT much smarter than all the rest...put together... B-R-A-V-O !!!... :dance:

FWIW, when you posted well wishes to Jim, I actually thought that you might have some redeeming qualities. I thought that if I tried to temper my replies to you with that understanding, in an effort to maybe, just maybe, get along with you, that you might pick up on that & respond in kind.

See there....I was WRONG again...:slap:

It's DEFINITELY me...NOT you...:luck:

[VX KAT]

They're not all cliques TREK, it's just that sometimes Group A agrees on the same "things", sometimes a few from Group B may agree with Group A, Some from Group C may agree with something said in Group A and B....etc, etc..... There's almost an infinite number of configurations of "groups".

The fact that there appears to be a pretty good number of folks that don't share your opinions in this thread, is just another random collection of members that I'll call a "group", that happen to share the same opinion on this particular topic or comments....that does not make them a clique.








The problem with your logic is that there is also a random collection of members that DO happen to share my opinion. Just because they choose not to voice that opinion publicly (for good reason) doesn't automatically mean you can assume they don't exist.


Once again, it could be said that you're simply (and conveniently) directing your suggestion to the wrong person/people.



BTW, your response back on 1/25/14 (11:15am) in post #244 is incorrect and has flawed logic.
That's one way to look at it, and convenient for you I might add, as I never excluded, dismissed, omitted or otherwise failed to acknowledge any "group". In fact, I was quite specific to say there was an almost infinite number of "groups", which, by definition would mean your "random collection of members that DO happen to share your opinion" is included.

Just remember, you said that TREK, I didn't. (Not the first time some of you here have tried to put words in my mouth though.)
Interesting that that's where YOU went with that. You believing it doesn't make it a reality.
Is it simply and conveniently that you don't understand, what I said?
It could be viewed that you're simply trying to cloud the issue.
It would be entirely understandable why YOU wouldn't understand my post.

I don't want to, once again, simply and conveniently, be blamed for YOU not understanding my post.
You SERIOUSLY still don't understand? From you I usually expect nothing more though.
I hope you don't think I'm just trying to save face here or grabbing at straws or conveniently changing the question.

Once again, I could explain what I've said since you're proving yourself unable to follow along...
I can explain that to you, but I can't understand it for you too.
I sure hope, once again, I'm not simply (and conveniently) directing this to the wrong person. :p;)






You sir, have a terminal case of fecal hoarding.


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You are a real piece of work TREK IMHO.....Your self-aggrandizing rants and writings, delusions of grandeaur, and paranoid musings, are IMHO simply... sad....that's all....sad.



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[ZEUS]

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[Y33TREKker]

OK, this IS one I'll explain...but just this once. I've wasted enough time in this thread as it is.

If it appears that I find it easy to ignore the majority of the juvenile comments coming from some of you and not take them personally, it's because I know for a fact that you're not actually talking to me the majority of the time.

The person you're usually being condescending to, insulting, threatening, calling "wrong", etc, is some imaginary person you've made up in your own mind based on all of the things in the past that YOU have either misinterpreted, or suggested all by yourself that I've said, done, etc...or in other words...the words that YOU have tried to put into my mouth...exactly like Dub was just trying to do.

Take this thread for instance, Tom proved HIMSELF wrong a few times towards the beginning...and even admitted to it after his error was pointed out by SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME. But did he stop there with me? Hardly. Because here we are with him STILL trying to push a bad position, and with posts like Kat's, where she's dissecting logic to such a degree it's as if she apparently thinks she's having her discussion with some sort of computer...or who knows what. (I'm curious, is it just because I can string a few words together with decent grammar and sentence structure? Is that why some of you start going to varying extremes with the responses you direct at me...like either talking MORE like a hick to try to make me look more like a "brain"...or breaking out the big ol' "long-haired" words like "esoteric" that you hardly EVER use otherwise? :p )

Well I'm sorry to have to be the one to break it to some of you, but while it's become obvious that it makes YOU feel better to view me in those ways, that feeling that you get when you do it simply isn't based on anything real.

By all means though, enjoy that feeling in those giddy fleeting moments when you think you've actually proven that what you're imagining and saying about me is true, but when that moment is over, you get back to reality, and discover once again that the person you were just being condescending to, insulting, threatening, calling "wrong", etc, is someone you made up in your own mind all by yourself based on your own misinterpretations, denials, etc...just remember that the only person you have to blame for that feeling you're feeling not being real is you.

I actually saw a movie on Netflix recently that had quite a few examples of people believing in their own such made-up distortions of actual events. It's called Another Happy Day. Reminded me a lot of this place actually. ;)

[JoFotoz]

I'd excused myself from this ramble a while ago.....
But.. ..this one I gotta chime in on!

IMO.. this shows EXACTLY how removed from reality you are trekker...

""and with posts like Kat's, where she's dissecting logic to such a degree
it's as if she apparently thinks she's having her discussion with some sort of computer...or who knows what.""


WOW!!
You sir, as can clearly be seen with even a cursory glance...

...are the KING of "dissecting".... "to such a degree"

Multiple cut and paste 'quote' efforts , combined with multiple long winded validations..
....combined with YOUR never ending questioning of what people 'really' mean..and then telling them !!!!

And...youre a champ at "putting words" in others mouths!

And even when using words that any person, with a self professed ability to..
"" string a few words together with decent grammar and sentence structure""

...you STILL find fault.
Seemingly, it never occurred to you that that was a tip of the hat to someone with your
( as you say...) 'decent' grasp of the english language.....

.... of course not..you jump immediately to a combative stance :_brickwal


You wont agree..thats a given :p

If a majority does agree, they are all, in various ways wrong..
...or a mob, reflecting a mob mentality!!

Did it escape your notice that Kats post was almost entirely ..YOUR WORDS, quotes from YOU!!! ???
And yet you attacked them... effectively attacking yourself ... ;)

I have never seen a more blatant and hypocritical display of projection and denial.....
...as you so copiously furnish all with :eek:




And that Trekker, is indeed truly esoteric...



Done...have at it, as is your bent.

Jo
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[Ldub]

Did it escape your notice that Kats post was almost entirely ..YOUR WORDS, quotes from YOU!!! ???
And yet you attacked them... effectively attacking yourself ... ;)


That pretty much sums it up...he's blathered (talk long-windedly, without making very much sense), pontificated (express one's opinions in a way considered annoyingly pompous and dogmatic), bloviated(talk at length, esp. in an inflated or empty way), & SPUN to such a degree, that he's unable to recognize his own rudimentary sentence structures...unless they're presented in a quotation box...:_thinking.:_confused

I highlighted the definitions to make it easier for you to understand how I really feel about your dumb imaginary ash...:laughing:

QUOTE "I've wasted enough time in this thread as it is."UNQUOTE

yeh, I'd say you've actually OVER wasted your time, but all is NOT for naught...WE all enjoyed the display...:yesgray:

Of whatever that was...:_confused

[Ldub]

Seriously Trek, I think you've embarrassed yourself enough already...just let it go...

STEP THA EFF OFF..:slap:

[Ldub]

Could we all agree to post nothing more in reply, other than ... :yesgray:

I think it would be a fun social experiment to see what type of spin, blather, & pontification could be conjured... in reply to a sphere...with a face that smiles...and agrees...:yesgray:

[Scott Larson]

:yesgray:

[Scott Larson]

...And...:dance:

[Ldub]

...And...:dance:

Post "whatever" to each other...just nothing more than :yesgray: ...If tha birthday boy replies...:smilewink

As an aside, I wonder why his legions of like minded followers haven't started a Happy B-Day thread for him yet...seems odd..:_thinking..:_confused

D'ya suppose they might have been imaginary?...like the person we "think" we're replying to?

I dunno, there's somethin' just not right here...like someone has been fibb'n or somethin'...Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...:_thinking

Oh well, I'm sure he has a wordy & spinny type explaination ...:yesgray:

[VXobsession]

^^^^^ ROTFLMAO!!!! The amount of REAL "laughing out loud" I just did was phenomenal. Maybe I'm just EXTRA goofy tonight....but I thought that post right there was funny as sh*t.

[dietz99vcross]

:yesgray:

[ZEUS]

I would add :yesgray: but I'm not really here...

[FlyingV77]

:noy:
Dont tell me what to do!

[Ldub]

Could we all agree to post nothing more in reply, other than ... :yesgray:


:noy:
Dont tell me what to do!

Oh absolutely...wouldn't think of it...:smilewink

Phrasing it as a question makes it a request, not an order...:yesgray:

[FlyingV77]

Ok you got me on that one.

[VXR]

Could we all agree to post nothing more in reply, other than ... :yesgray:

:confused:

[Ldub]

:confused:

:yesgray:

[VX KAT]

:confused:

:yesgray:

[tom4bren]

The answers to the questions you keep repeating are still there, you just don't like them because they've resulted in this thread illustrating that it's actually you who has the various "deficiencies" you've just described.

UMMM, nope.

I wouldn't have kept the discussion going if I didn't think that you might provide some valuable information.

There is the one question that you continue to dance around rather than answer because you know that it completely undermines the position you've taken. That question is: how does venting to the atmosphere differ from venting to the combustion chamber in regard to oil consumption? I can guarantee that you can search this thread top to bottom and back again & not be able to find your response to that question.


Tom proved HIMSELF wrong a few times towards the beginning...and even admitted to it after his error was pointed out by SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME. But did he stop there with me? Hardly. Because here we are with him STILL trying to push a bad position,

Actually only once ... & doesn't the fact that I can admit my errors when proven wrong indicate that it is you rather than me that is keeping this cess pool of a discussion in motion?

I have to hand it to you. I've never met anyone like you before who is so prolific at consuming facts and spewing defication.

[Ldub]

I have to hand it to you. I've never met anyone like you before who is so prolific at consuming facts and spewing defication.

:yesgray:

LOL....good'n

[tom4bren]

Running a bottle of SeaFoam in the crank case now & I'll change the oil tomorrow. We'll see if that helps in decreasing oil consumption. It's been a few tanks of gas since I've had to add any oil but prior to that it was up-n-down in a very mysterious manner.

[ZEUS]

...prior to that it was up-n-down in a very mysterious manner. Sounds like a girl I once knew. :bgwo:

[tom4bren]

Wow.

I ran a can of SeaFoam in the crank for a week & then changed the oil last weekend. It consumed a quart of oil this week.:freek: That was less than 500 miles.