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transio
10/19/2004, 06:05 PM
Not here just yet, but Mike sent me a pic of it today.....

DAMN, she's gonna look good in my engine bay !!! :D

(EDIT: Received and installed it ... pics below!)

http://www.stevenmoseley.com/vehicross/morgantec_intake.jpg

Oh yeah, and better performance, too. Yippee :)

MZ-N10
10/19/2004, 07:38 PM
sweet.....

btw did u go through with the drop?
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transio
10/19/2004, 09:58 PM
MZ,

I got the springs, but I've been going through hell trying to get my new wheels to fit. I wanna get these wheels on at the same time as the drop, so that I only have to realign once.

Triathlete
10/19/2004, 11:56 PM
You shouldn't have to re align if you change wheels!

thedutchguy
10/20/2004, 12:07 AM
O. yes he does if the offset is different!

transio
10/20/2004, 09:18 AM
Yeah, these wheels are a pretty significant change in geometry from the ones I have on.

transio
11/08/2004, 10:03 AM
I installed my Morgan-Tec intake yesterday. There is a noticeable increase in power and better throttle response, as advertised. Also a much more aggressive growl coming from my exhaust. Not to mention it looks great !!! I'm thinking about painting my engine cover yellow to match. :)

Here are some pics:

http://www.stevenmoseley.com/vehicross/morgantec_intake_1.jpg http://www.stevenmoseley.com/vehicross/morgantec_intake_2.jpg http://www.stevenmoseley.com/vehicross/morgantec_intake_3.jpg

Installation was mostly a breeze. The intake came with detailed instructions with pics of installation in an Axiom, which is almost exactly the same as a VX install. The only issue I had is with the IAT grommet, which fits a little loosely (very, very minor). I think I'll try adding some silicon between the grommet and the intake to eliminate any play. Another thing is that when mounted, there's only about 1/4" of space from the radiator fan. The instructions suggest 1/2". Oh, and the last issue was that the 3" clamp that came with the air filter didn't fit when stretched over the MAF. I couldn't find a bigger clamp than 3" at autozone, so I just got a 1" and joined it with the 3", and that fixed that.

What do you guys think? :)

drdavidr4u
11/08/2004, 10:23 AM
LQQks great!

Is that the stainless steel cone filter or ????

I was considering one like yours but wasn't sure if the stanless steel filter catches enough of the finer particles that the K&N web site said causes most of the engine wear/damage.

Anyone know ? Feedback is welcomed!!!

Thanks

transio
11/08/2004, 10:45 AM
Thx! Yes it's a steel filter. I've heard that there's an oil you can put over it to catch the fine particles. Maybe Mike can help us out?

SlowPro48
11/08/2004, 01:16 PM
Since space under the hood is limited it's difficult to lower pressure drop across the filter (i.e., increase flow) via low air/cloth ratio (low face velocity) by increasing filter surface area. You can increase it a little through deeper pleating but if you really want high flow then your only option is to increase porosity, which reduces collection efficiency. There's the tradeoff. The only "free lunch" you get is through oiling like K&N. What they offer is a filter that is more porous than stock - which ordinarily would reduce collection efficiency - but since the fibers are coated with sticky oil, particles are more likely to impinge upon them and not get re-entrained. Unfortunately oil doesn't help steel mesh filters much in the long run since they aren't very absorbent. A lot of the oil will initially get sucked into the intake and burn. The oil that remains will be in low velocity areas that would would ordinarily take up the slack when a good dust cake begins to build in the higher flow areas. As pressure drop across the filter rises due to less surface area, the filter will "blind" and you'll get larger particles passing through than if you had just left the thing dry.

What I would do if I had one of those cone filters is run a Filter Skin on it most of the time to trap fine particles and when I felt the urge to show off my underhood jewels or get that last 0.5 horsepower out of the VX, I'd take the skin off...




:)

transio
11/08/2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by SlowPro48
What I would do if I had one of those cone filters is run a Filter Skin on it most of the time to trap fine particles and when I felt the urge to show off my underhood jewels or get that last 0.5 horsepower out of the VX, I'd take the skin off... Awesome advice! Where would you suggest that I get the skin from?

SlowPro48
11/08/2004, 02:35 PM
I don't know much about car parts suppliers but anyone who sells K & N filters should be able to set you up with some thing. I think they call theirs the PreCharger.

Any of the online bike parts places will have PC Racing Filter Skins. They're made to fit bike filters but check the sizes and you might find something that will work. Try http://www.denniskirk.com

Or you can get one custom made to fit your filter from Outerwears at http://www.outerwearsracing.com/custom_order.php

Tone
11/08/2004, 02:36 PM
More good info on this other post: http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=47731

Morgan says his filters down to 20 microns and it has fabric inside that stainless mesh. Properly oiled K&N or Green filter traps down to 5 microns. Bigger (more surface area) the filter the better... Green seemed to be built better than the K&N and I have been a long time K&N fan.

SlowPro48
11/08/2004, 02:54 PM
OK - found K&N version and PC Racing version at White Bros go here http://www.whitebros.com/04catalog/Intake.pdf - scroll down to page 5 and you'll see the K & N skin. No sizes listed though - so you're on your own! Page 7 shows the PC Racing product in action.

drdavidr4u
11/08/2004, 04:06 PM
From the K & N site:

A Word About Filtration RequirementsÂ_

There are few areas more confusing than identifying dirt retention requirements when it comes to air filters.Â_ Most vehicle owner’s manuals remain silent on the point.Â_ In fact, few air filter manufacturers publish any information as to the filtration efficiency of their filters.Â_ This stands in marked contrast to oil and fuel filters where there is a relatively large amount of information regarding filtration requirements and capabilities.Â_ Studies have shown most engine wear is caused by particles 10 to 20 microns in size.Â_ K&N air filters, like most quality disposable air filters, provide excellent filtration of these particles. Â_

To ensure our air filters provide a high level of dirt protection, we regularly test our air filter designs using the testing procedure described above. Those tests demonstrate K&N air filters generally achieve overall filtration efficiency in the range of 97% - 98%, while some of our air filter designs have achieved levels as high as 99%. The fact that our air filters at times reach overall filtration efficiencies as high as 99% while maintaining high airflow is a testament to the quality and capabilities of our oil impregnated cotton air filter medium.

drdavidr4u
11/08/2004, 04:11 PM
OOOoooooppppssss!!

forgot to post this interesting article...give a good read...what say you to this?

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/articles/air_filter.asp

morgan-tec
11/08/2004, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Tone

Morgan says his filters down to 20 microns and it has fabric inside that stainless mesh.

My filters are only stainless no fabric in it at all.

Tone
11/08/2004, 08:02 PM
Oops, my bad. I thought I could see fabric in there - I've not seen one without a filter media inside the mesh.

morgan-tec
11/08/2004, 08:18 PM
No worries man;Dr;

UtahVXer
11/08/2004, 08:55 PM
Check out these filters AFE (http://www.afefilters.com/Homepage4.asp)

transio
11/08/2004, 09:56 PM
Mike,

Do you suggest any particular paper filter skin for this filter for daily use?

Thanks.

PS - I'm gonna try to send that extra reducer back this week. Email me Friday if you don't hear from me about it before then. I tend to be absent-minded.

morgan-tec
11/08/2004, 10:21 PM
I personally do not use one but i am sure the K&N ones in Jegs would fit pretty good. I will emil you later this week if i dont hear from you. Thanks again

I_Wanna_Retire
11/10/2004, 07:02 AM
If anybody finds a sock that fits, please post the source and PN.

I_Wanna_Retire
12/16/2004, 10:07 AM
Mike, what is the brand and model number of cone filter you use on your intake? I am thinking of buying a Green cone filter to fit on your intake and might be able to find a suitable cross reference if you can provide this info. Thanks

transio
12/16/2004, 02:19 PM
Crap, that reminds me I have to send something back to Mike... I'm such a dimwit sometimes.

morgan-tec
12/16/2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by I_Wanna_Retire
Mike, what is the brand and model number of cone filter you use on your intake? I am thinking of buying a Green cone filter to fit on your intake and might be able to find a suitable cross reference if you can provide this info. Thanks

It is a Rezton stainless steel screen filter, ther is not a model # so i hae no idea and they are all the same size, if you want i can take some measurments so you have an approx. size.