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Chopper
06/15/2006, 06:00 PM
Nitto Dune Grapplers. Coolest looking tire I've seen. Unfortunately (for me) they only come in one 18" fitament... 285/65. I'm afraid lifting or cutting would be necessary, and I don't want to do either. There is a Tire Rack in Daytona , so I'm taking it down to see for sure. Google Nitto Tire's home page. See if you don't agree this tire would look excellent on our vehicle. They may handle like absolute Rhino Crap... don't know...may go as good as they look. Never yet been let down by this company yet, but these tires are too new to have any reviews. Guess I'm the canary in the coal mine this time. I'll keep you posted. Wayne

mbeach
06/15/2006, 06:09 PM
Man, Wayne, I hold your opinion in very high regard, but I really can't agree with you here. Psychos2 (shawn) said that these were cool tires as well, so I popped over to Nitto to check them out.


These are the ugliest tires that I've ever seen. They remind me of the legions of Wal-Mart flamed shirt wearing rednecks that populate every Nascar event -you know, the ones that never miss an episode of Monster Gayrage. These are the guys that have some variant of an iron cross sewn/painted/stuck/stapled on everything they own.
I just can't even bring myself to get into these.

My opinion, but man -those tires are flamin' -and not in a hot way.

Bimati
06/15/2006, 06:53 PM
God bless America...freedom of speech and diversity of opinion brings a tear to the eye.

Chopper...the 285/60/18 will fit. Ask MSHardeman about the trimming.

This is from the Nitto website:

Nitto Tire Introduces the New Dune Grappler Desert Terrain Tire

Nitto Tire introduces the new Dune Grappler Desert Terrain tire, an exciting addition to Nitto's popular Grappler series. The Dune Grappler satisfies the enthusiast who wants an aggressive tread for off-road capabilities, while providing a more comfortable and quieter ride on the road. By utilizing advanced computer simulation technology, the tread block arrangement reduces high levels of noise commonly associated with aggressive tires, while still providing a traction-oriented tread for off-road use. The Nitto Dune Grappler will be offered with a three-ply sidewall construction for increased puncture resistance in certain popular sizes.

Features:

• M&S-rated for all season performance
• 3 ply polyester high turn up construction improves bruise and puncture resistance*
• Intermediate void-ratio for optimal performance in loose gravel and sandy terrains
• Flare “taper and bridge” design reduces flex for longer tread life along with better traction and steering on and off road
• Innovative design allows for tread and shoulder integration, ensuring a flatter, wider contact patch optimal for on and off road performance.

Sizes:

LT31X10.50R15 C
LT33X12.50R15 C
LT285/75R16 E
LT305/70R16 E
LT315/75R16 E
LT285/70R17 E
LT315/70R17 D
285/60R18
LT285/65R18 E
LT285/55R20 E
305/40R22

I couldn't post the picture because I'm a 'tard...sorry.

Bimati
06/15/2006, 07:10 PM
Small Pics:

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/attachments/titan-wheels-tires-brakes/24901-nitto-dune-grapplers-dune2.jpg?d=1148684767

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/attachments/titan-wheels-tires-brakes/24900-nitto-dune-grapplers-dune1.jpg?d=1148684757

9tinyfingaz
06/15/2006, 07:22 PM
very nice

nfpgasmask
06/15/2006, 07:25 PM
Haha, I love the regular Grapplers, and the Mud Grapplers are ok too, but I will have to agree here with mbeach, these tires scream 'merica redneck...but then again, this is 'merica we are a livin' in...so I'm sure these tires will sell VERY well...

HERE HERE for Freedom of Speech! One of the last American values still standing and fighting for survival in 2006! But I don't want to get political...LOL!

:) Bart


Man, Wayne, I hold your opinion in very high regard, but I really can't agree with you here. Psychos2 (shawn) said that these were cool tires as well, so I popped over to Nitto to check them out.


These are the ugliest tires that I've ever seen. They remind me of the legions of Wal-Mart flamed shirt wearing rednecks that populate every Nascar event -you know, the ones that never miss an episode of Monster Gayrage. These are the guys that have some variant of an iron cross sewn/painted/stuck/stapled on everything they own.
I just can't even bring myself to get into these.

My opinion, but man -those tires are flamin' -and not in a hot way.

Maugan_VX
06/15/2006, 07:54 PM
I'm with mbeach as well. Don't like the lettering on the side.

Also, hard to tell from the linked pics, but it looks like they lack any kind of shoulder.

Velvis
06/16/2006, 12:55 AM
"I WILL KILL HIM!!!" (Sting)

psychos2
06/16/2006, 05:11 AM
Here is an intresting article on the Dune Grappler.http://truckinweb.com/0606tr_nitto_off_road_racing/

Joe_Black
06/16/2006, 05:23 AM
Entertaining tread treatment, but to me something that appears functional rings my bell. I'll stick with my Yokohama Geolandar MT+ gnarliness. ;)

http://www.yokohamatire.com/images/carsandtires/GeoMTplus_tire.jpg

Off-road rubber you can run on an asphalt flat-track? Now that rocks!

WormGod
06/16/2006, 07:20 AM
http://www.yokohamatire.com/images/carsandtires/GeoMTplus_tire.jpg


How is this tire on the asphault jungle? Loud on highway I imagine, but intimdating at the same time? ;) Good looking tire and I have a pretty good track record with Yoko so I think I want to stick to them. The VX needs new rubber.

Tone
06/16/2006, 12:11 PM
I don't think they look that bad and are not much different than the Intercos many Isuzu's already run, but I guess we need to see them on one. I'm having a hard time finding ones to fit the ML and those could work. I really wanted to put Boggers on it since I bet it hasn't been done but none in the size I need.

Triathlete
06/16/2006, 12:41 PM
Those Nitto's are rice on steroids!

Tone if Interco has nothiing in a size to fit your MB I dought anyone will. They have something in about every size. What size ae you looking for?
The LTB's come in a lot of odd sizes. You have 20 or 22 inch rims? The Iroc and Iroc radials come in 20 and 22 inch size in anything from 36-49's.

Bimati
06/16/2006, 01:00 PM
Anybody want to Photoshop a black ML55 with boggers? I'm thinkin very original and sweet. Good luck Tone!

JoFotoz
06/16/2006, 01:33 PM
For shear chutzpah , I like the Nitto Mud Grapplers.


http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/VX71.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/VX71.jpg)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/thumbs/VX11.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/VX11.jpg)


Ok ..so they whine a little on the freeway.
But none of the THUMP..THUMP..THUMP...of other aggressive treads.

jo

mbeach
06/16/2006, 01:59 PM
The Yokohama M/Ts are my dream tire -there is no real Yoko dealer within 1000 miles of me though.

I'd love to have some "mudders" that had wide and stable blocks like those. My Dunlops do pretty well though.

Chopper
06/16/2006, 06:25 PM
I like the Mud Grapplers as well but I dont want to hear all that noise.Yeah... the lettering IS a bit much... and as far as redneck-I spent the first 37 years of my life on a horse farm in the Pa. mountains then spent the following ten years all swamped up in central Florida... my life is building and rebuilding vehicles( and driving hell out of them) Do the math. Love, Wayne

Ruflyf
06/16/2006, 07:47 PM
The Yokohama M/Ts are my dream tire -there is no real Yoko dealer within 1000 miles of me though.

I'd love to have some "mudders" that had wide and stable blocks like those. My Dunlops do pretty well though.


Mbeach, tires are cheap to ship UPS, mainly cause they dont have to worry bout breaking 'em.

The tires that started this thread I think look pretty cool, but would be a nite mare to keep the side walls clean.

I_Wanna_Retire
06/17/2006, 01:49 PM
So who is gonna be the guinea pig, er, I mean, bold brave soul to buy a set to see if they fit? I could be tempted to buy these if they fit without a large amount of hacking, and if they ride ok.

WiSDoM
06/17/2006, 05:50 PM
I oicked up a set for 737.00/shipping www.onlinetires.com had the best price. They fit fine some cutting is ness.only because of the rims i have. so if the rims were the stock offset would be fine. I will let you know about the ride tomorrow night as it will be my maiden voyage with new tires and 912 springs. I would like to give thanks to mbeach for all his advice and help with all my questions. Thanks Man ;)
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Picture_117.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Picture_117.jpg)

mbeach
06/18/2006, 12:12 PM
That's a great setup WiSDom -the picture's cute too.
What size/offset of wheel did you end up going with?

Oh, and how'd the truck dry out after your submersion?

Back on topic,
I assume that those 'Dune' tires will fit as well as the other Nittos, and will be of equally high quality. My own bias aside (nothing personal Wayne, my wife's from PA too), I suppose that the tread pattern will be alright for its intended use. If you squint hard enough, you can almost see a bit of Mickey Thompsom inspiration in the tread spacing. For you hardcore show goers and road guys, I'm sure that they'll get a lot of attention.

For those drivers who, even occasionally, get off the pavement, I'll bet these tires pack up with mud in a second. If some Jeeper has to pull you out -you'll definately get flamed -twice.

Thanks for the tip from online tires -even shipping UPS will be expensive though- remember where I live, milk costs $4 a gallon.

EDIT:
I just went to that onlinetires.com site. Boy am I steamed. They have great prices -even the shipping isn't bad. 4 Yokohama A/T IIs (265/75) shipped to Fairbanks Alaska for $64. I didn't see the Yokohama M/Ts on there though- it seems like the link is dead. I dunno if those Nittos are on there -if they are, I'm sure it'll be just as great of a price.

Ruflyf
06/18/2006, 01:38 PM
Mbeach, try tirerack.com

Maugan_VX
06/18/2006, 01:48 PM
I love the look of your vx jofotoz.

Those tires make the whole thing look mean.

mbeach
06/18/2006, 04:00 PM
Mbeach, try tirerack.com

None of the big tire places deliver up here.
I don't think that I could persuade the wife to buy off on another set of tires in 2 months anyways...

Chopper
06/19/2006, 05:50 PM
I'd sooner choke, than be yanked by a jeep_

Joe_Black
06/19/2006, 06:43 PM
mbeach - Have you called TireRack? Sometimes getting those guys on the phone can work miracles. When I ordered my Yokohama M/T+'s from 'em they gave me a sweet deal on the shipping, which was especially great since the + version was just being released.

As for road holding and noise, they're sticky as all get out and quieter than a set of BFG All Terrains. I couldn't believe how they held the Dragon to the asphalt on the flat track...

http://www.rallyrebels.com/Media/Photos/100904/DSC00076.JPG

Spike
06/21/2006, 09:03 AM
As for road holding and noise, they're sticky as all get out and quieter than a set of BFG All Terrains. I couldn't believe how they held the Dragon to the asphalt on the flat track...

http://www.rallyrebels.com/Media/Photos/100904/DSC00076.JPG

From that photo, it looks like your driver side front wheel is actually grabbing soft shoulder... no wonder they gripped. you were really off roading!

biju
08/17/2006, 05:50 AM
Hmmm... I've pondered this tire for a while now (at least since originally seeing this thread), and think it's grown on me. I'll be needing a newer set in the next 6 months, and just might give this line a try...

However, upon first seeing the tire my thoughts immediately drew a mental picture.... um, something like this:

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/dune.jpg

"YEEEEE HAAAWWWW!, GET-R-DONE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE A REDNECK WHEN..." --- *sigh... In other words, a HUGE turnoff for me. BUT!, time has allowed me to reshape this first impression and *forgive* and *overlook* the potentially inherent connections to redneck culture this tire may produce. In other words, I don't care what people associate or think of this tire... I might just give it a try.

Any 'closet' Dune Grappler owners out there who simply haven't piped up? If so, lets hear from you - and see a picture of them on your VX!!! (please.)

-biju.

Ldub
08/17/2006, 03:28 PM
You know what they say Capt. Biju...other peoples opinions are worth about what you pay for them...usually less. :rolleyes: