New Muffler Ideas / Specs?

[PHO2GR4]

Okay, it looks like PowerVault AND Morgan-Tec are out of the VX picture. It's sad, but we must move forward.

I'm considering 'moving forward' to a FlowMaster Extreme Off-Road Muffler, in the black diamond-plate steel. Perfect for an Ebony VX, no?

HOWEVER:

I know nothing about the technical aspects of mufflers. I know what the VX came with, stock...but how does that affect what we can or should do after-market? I mean, I can just buy a single 2.25" in / single 2.25 out model. But is there a benefit or drawback, HP-wise, to going with a larger single in, or a larger single out, or even a dual-out? Will it ruin the engine? Will it get amazingly better gas mileage? Will it do anything at all?

Also: does it matter if I get the single outlet centered or offset?

Thanks all!

[morgan-tec]

The inlet size wil have no effect on the hp, or noise unlesss you increase the tubing in frnt of the muffler. The outlet is a different story. That will effect the sound level, hp, and tq. You can go to big and you will lose low end tq. But you an not really hurt the engine. You need an offset inlet to line up with the stock pipe. If you use a centered it will hit the frame and or the drive shaft.

[Ldub]

I've been using a Borla Turbo #40658 with a 3" Dynatech Vortex insert cone in the exhaust tip & like that combination.
It's fairly quiet at idle & not raspy/ ricey sounding under hard acceleration, but still fairly loud.(I was able to pass the MN state db test last fall while wheeling @ Gilbert, MN OHV park.)
I found the Borla muffler alone to be too loud for me, so I experimented with a Supertrapp tip for a while, but found that to be too quiet/restrictive & just plain didn't like the way it looked.
The insert cone is perforated & took a bit of hammer work & more than a bit of foul language, to persuade it to take up residence in the tip...hope I never have to remove it.

[PHO2GR4]

How about this one?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Do you think it would be possible to find a matching exhaust tip?

[Cyrk]

Maganflow XL 3 chambered muffler...
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...ne=main&id=303

[psychos2]

In order to use the stock pipes you must get a in / out on the same side. I used a flowmaster 40 series it was the only one I could find the right combination in. shawn

[PHO2GR4]

Hey, I didn't know that. Thanks, Shawn!

Is it really vital to use the stock pipes? I don't know how much it would cost to have a muffler shop bang around and fit some new pipes to make another muffler work. I've seen some VXs with dual-exhaust set-ups, and I KNOW they had to have some custom piping done.

[Ldub]

In order to use the stock pipes you must get a in / out on the same side. I used a flowmaster 40 series it was the only one I could find the right combination in. shawn

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on that psychos2...mine lines up just right with the front centered & the rear offset.
As they say...there's more-n-one way to skin a cat.
Also, sorry for the insane corrodicity under there...it's been a sloppy cold rotten winter.

[PHO2GR4]

Cool! More options!

Again, though, has anyone ever heard of blacked-out exhaust pipes or exhaust tips that might match those diamond-black Flowmaster mufflers? I haven't seen anything like that online...but it sure would look cool on an Ebony VX!

[etlsport]

carbon fiber?

[Ldub]

Cool! More options!

Again, though, has anyone ever heard of blacked-out exhaust pipes or exhaust tips that might match those diamond-black Flowmaster mufflers? I haven't seen anything like that online...but it sure would look cool on an Ebony VX!

...oh yeah, absolutely...my entire exhaust system is blacked out on the INSIDE !

Seriously though...while I think your tip idea would look great, when is the last time anyone has actually looked to see if their muffler matches the tip ?

[psychos2]

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on that psychos2...mine lines up just right with the front centered & the rear offset.
As they say...there's more-n-one way to skin a cat.
Also, sorry for the insane corrodicity under there...it's been a sloppy cold rotten winter.

Is the stock muffler IN/OUT offset same side ??? Mine was !!! Just makes it easier at the muffler shop. shawn

[PHO2GR4]

...oh yeah, absolutely...my entire exhaust system is blacked out on the INSIDE !

Seriously though...while I think your tip idea would look great, when is the last time anyone has actually looked to see if their muffler matches the tip ?

I don't necessarily need the tip to match the muffler. It's just that the muffler itself looks WAY cool. Since the tip is the only visible part, it would be nice it IT looked as cool as the 'hidden' muffler...

Besides, what if I roll my VX in Utah? How embarrassing would it be to have a muffler/tip combo that wasn't color-coordinated?!?

(kidding on that last one.)

So, do they MAKE carbon-fiber exhaust tips?

[Ascinder]

Why don't you get a normal exhaust tip, an oxy-acetylene torch and a bucket of (used)oil and black oxide coat the tip. It's durable and will be turn out a matte black. You can probably have the guy doing your muffler install do it right there since he should have everything except the used oil on hand. Oh, and by the way, I think that muffler is awesome. I was actually looking at it too a few weeks ago, since mine is about due for one. Let's see how it turns out!!

[Ldub]

So, do they MAKE carbon-fiber exhaust tips?

Here are a couple I found on ebay...