Canada mod ban?

[WormGod]

From a clip in an online news article posted on NASIOC....

Ontario moves to seize cars juiced up for street racing

TORONTO (Jun 21, 2007)

The government has the power to seize and destroy cars that have been adapted for street racing, and can do so before a race takes place or any charges are laid, Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant said yesterday.

Car junkies who pour thousands of dollars into their vehicles to make them as fast as possible are wasting their money, Bryant said.

He warned potential racers that all it takes is a tip from police to seize and destroy their cars.

"If we can establish someone has parts and they're juicing up their car -- obviously for the purpose of street racing -- then we can seize those vehicles,'' Bryant said.

"We will seize it and you will never see it again. We will crush your car, we will crush the parts."

obviously for the purpose of street racing - THAT part really gets me.... so, because I put the S/C in my VX, I am a criminal? It is rumoured that Cali is proposing a similar standard. As Ldub says.... we need more chlorine in the gene pool.

[kelvin]

CA already has local task forces that target specific race scenes or trouble spots. they can impound the vehicle if it is being driven on the street with illegal parts (mostly illegal due to emissions control or safety...). But in the US your car is your private property. the government has as much right to destroy your car as i have a right to destroy your car (i.e. none at all). This new Canadian rule is very similar to some European countries (Italy specifically)

[volume311]

It's already been done in Cali. Saw some photos on NASIOC OT, the cars were seized from people caught street racing and crushed.

[ZEUS]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/...ushed_hot_rods


It's happening, alright...

[Dino]

OK when do they sieze and burn modified boats? Hey let's not stop there!
What about modded skateboards?? Hey I know! Let's crush cars if their stereo is too loud!!

That ***** is messed up!!!!!!!

[IndianaVX]

my dad put a high compression head on his 29 model A, i guess its gonna be next in line to be crushed.........

[MZ-N10]

all u vxers with sc better watch out.....

[Triathlete]

Hell, all you PV users better be looking over your shoulder! I wunder what constitutes a "performance mod" in their book. Bigger, more aggressive tire "perfom" better off road...if I am visiting Canada and creep over the posted speed limit will they crush my VX...Eh? At least in Ca you have to get stopped for racing or be found to have stollen parts on your vehicle.

[JAFO]

This seams a little harsh. Especially when I can go and buy a Dodge Ram truck with factory 500+ horsepower.

All of the American motor companies sold street legal race cars for people to take to the drags on the weekend.

How about banning manufacturer from producing high performance / any performance cars. For example maybe V8 Mustang is excessive compared to the V6. Should they ban all V8 mustangs. Not to mention the factory supercharged V8's.


I put a Optima battery and a K&N air filter in my VX. Am I a street racer?

[Dino]

It's the cart before the horse!!

DRAG RACING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...that's the answer.

They shouuld support and promote drag racing. That's why drag racing came into being!!! A place to legally race!!

If all those young cats would just do that instead of being "rebels" they could enjoy racing every weekend. But noooooooooooo... they have to just break all the rules and do it at night in an unsafe manner, then wonder why why why did my car get taken away! Because you endanger too many others in your quest for speed!!!

I have no sympathy for them, but I don't condone confiscating cars and shutting down someones pursuit of a hobby either!!!!!!

Take it to the track!!

[rowhard]

insert 2 cents. Now as was pointed out not long ago, I am of a age where street racing in this country was going out on a lonely straight piece of road and drag racing on a Friday or Saturday night until the cops came charging in. Our car were only good for that, going in a straight line. Now, the cars of today just like the sports bikes of today are, let face it, are outrageously fast. They handle, they brake and they go like hell. And I'm sorry, but the folks of today driving these things don't have much respect for others, its all about me. Where we were racing out on some lonely road and might kill ourselves, today they are doing it in the neighborhoods and not only killing themselves, they are killing innocent people that are doing nothing more then standing around in their neighborhoods. I don’t like what is happening in Canada, Italy or anywhere else where the law can take your property and destroy it. Like Dino and others have said, where will it end. Sorry if I stepped on any toes, just my 2 cents.

[Chopper]

They catch you actively engaged in a street race, I don't care if they crush the car with you in it...as for the preemtive strike, I think some major constitutional changes will have to be made, before they are seizing cars based on potential usage, rather than actual usage.

[etlsport]

yea i saw that in CA the other day... couldnt beleive it.. same kind of thing with gun bans.. they take them because you *could* shoot someone with it.. not because you have... just gives more reason to create a sleeper ... i agree with whats been said though.. if youre going to race do it on a track or an empty road

[psychos2]

My 2 Cents, If you street race they should crush your car , bike, or whatever you are driving. If you want to race go to the track !!!!! Canada is going a little to far with if you mod your vehicle you are going to street race. Let the bashing begin. shawn

[JAFO]

Thursday, June 15, 2006


Two cars used in a street race and seized by police were destroyed by York
Regional Police, Thursday. (CBC)

"Police say 34 people have died as a result of street racing in the Greater Toronto Area since 1999."
Source: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/...et-racing.html


I agree, those that commit the violent acts need to stand up and be accountable for their actions, but I don't agree with them taking away everyones freedom.

I see the future as follows:
Technology will advance to a point where all cars will be fully autonomous. Cars without this technology will be banned. Manual driving will be a thing of the past. The cars will drive within parameters established by the government. Any attempt to modify the cars will immediately trigger a violation and notify police.

This technology will not be cheap. As a result, car ownership will be a luxury and reserved for the wealthy. Everyone else will walk, bike, or take mass transit. Or ride Segways.

Support for my theory:
I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but there is a revolution starting to happen in the insurance world called "Pay As You Drive" or PAYD insurance. It is starting out as an option for drivers who drive less and want to save money. If driver "A" drives twice as much as driver "B", driver A statically has twice the risk of driver "B". However, currently driver A and B pay the same insurance rate if all other things are equal. PAYD insurance is currently being promoted in several states by offering tax cuts to insurance companies offering PAYD insurance. Their goals are to reduce traffic congestion, traffic accidents, and emissions. IE the more you drive the more you pay.

PAYD insurance requires devices attached to your vehicle to tell how much you drive. Some are time based and some are mileage based. Some use GPS , satellite, cellphone technology, or a combination of the three to communicate with your car.

The benefits of this is that it gives insurance companies an acurate way to calculate your risk. Another benefit is crash data. If you have an accident, the police and insurance companies can retrieve information to recreate the incident. If you have OnStar or an embedded car chip your vehicle already has this capability.