Canada mod ban?

[WormGod]

They catch you actively engaged in a street race, I don't care if they crush the car with you in it...as for the preemtive strike, I think some major constitutional changes will have to be made, before they are seizing cars based on potential usage, rather than actual usage.

Thats exactly the issue. It's almost like Minority Report.... catch the "possible, soon to be criminal" before he commits an act of crime in the future. Hell, lock us all up then. It's nice to know that my 2 vehicles are both illegal and possible deadly weapons in many areas.

Legislators must have watch Fast and the Furious and thought it was a documentary. Street racing can hurt and kill people.... not modding. I can see SEMA being a terrorist organization in the near future, heh.

EDIT: For the record, many of you may recall when I was arrested for "speed contesting on a highway" some years ago. I am as guilty as the next street racer, even though, technically, all I did was to speed up as there was a merge lane ahead and some clown took that as an invite to race and a cop saw it as the same. In the eyes of the law, street racing can be misinterpreted as well as you can see.

[TEN36VX]

[QUOTE=ZEUS]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/...ushed_hot_rods
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Nevermind that both of the vehicles had stolen parts, the value of which constitutes a felony... And it isnt like the police are jsut going out and crushing cars, it requires a court order, ussually steming from a conviction. Law enforcement goes after the modifications as street racing is a crime of opportunity, one that starts quickly and is over quickly and is therefore very difficult to catch. Often agencies are not even able to pursue a fleeing suspect due to pursuit policies. It's quite frustrating.

Street racing kills somebody in the greater Sacramento area on average, monthly.
Just a few quick examples:
March 29, 2007: Police Seek Murder Charge Following Fatal Street Race (results)
February 27, 2007: Street Racing Suspected In Fatal Stockton Crash
February 24, 2007: 2 Arrested In Fatal Street Racing Crash
February 19, 2007: 2 Dead In Suspected Street Racing Crash
February 12, 2007: Teen Killed In Apparent Street Racing Crash
February 2, 2007: Driver Killed In Street Racing Crash
January 14, 2007: Woman Killed In Suspected Street Racing Crash (result)
September 12, 2006: Sacramento Wreck Blamed On Street Racing
August 31, 2006: Motorcyclist Dies In Head-On Collision In Elk Grove
July 21, 2006: Street Racing Suspected In Fatal Wreck

[MZ-N10]

so 34 ppl died due to street racing in 8 years in toronto.....and ppl get their cars crushed. i wonder how many people die from OD on medication, or cellphones while driving in those pass 8 years......

[ZEUS]

[QUOTE=TEN36VX]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/...ushed_hot_rods
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Nevermind that both of the vehicles had stolen parts, the value of which constitutes a felony... And it isnt like the police are jsut going out and crushing cars, it requires a court order, ussually steming from a conviction.

Well, supposedly, my albino ferret that my old roommate let escape was previously stolen too, which is why the animal shelter wouldn't let me have him back when I figured out where he was. They asked to see a receipt for something I had owned for 2 years! Although I bought that ferret from a store, I did not have a receipt, so they confiscated my pet... luckily they didn't crush him... or did they???

I don't condone street racing but I don't condone everything the government does either.

[rowhard]

As Will Rogers said, "Thank god we don't get all the government we pay for".

[ZEUS]

As Will Rogers said, "Thank god we don't get all the government we pay for".

Amen to that!

[Chopper]

I condone very little the government does, this one or any other one.

[Kenny]

Funny, I'm Toronto this week...

As for pre-emtive crushing, thhhpt!. We're Canadians, we're pu$$ies, we're soft on crime. We appoligize more to the criminal as we take him into custody than the victim laying on the ground with a head wound. #$$% liberals...

The move is extremely bold. But it's more of a deterrent to the ignorant "beginners" out there who are more dangerous without skill and only a small hinderance to the serious racers. But it is an excellent big stick to carry when dealing with these jokers. In my City, we have the same problem, innocent people getting killed in T-bones from racers. So we are aggressive in TICKETING loud, obnoxious, non-conforming cars (zeroing in on the imports not muscle cars ) In fact I was afraid for a while with my tires sticking out an inch or so to get a ticket... none yet - actually cops stop me to ask about the car, they likey! I do wish we had the same law in our City to smack those numbskulls where it hurts.

I can see this law being enacted in specific circumstances. Say a mother and her children are killed by street racing. I can see the after effect being a run of crushing "racers" until the public's need for vengence is burned off...

Don't be fooled, Canadians can profile. It won't be someone like one of us with a lowered, supercharged G35 coupe - (probably my next car ) who'll get the attention. If you try to look like the cast from Fast & Furious, then look out...


I like it.

Cheers.

[WyrreJ]

so 34 ppl died due to street racing in 8 years in toronto.....and ppl get their cars crushed. i wonder how many people die from OD on medication, or cellphones while driving in those pass 8 years......

As I see it, this is the root problem with American and western society today - we will NEVER be 100% risk free. Life is fatal.

All of these attempts to prevent statistically negligible, but very vivid fatalities just end up wasting taxpayer money and making the population more dependent on the whims of the state. There are a lot better things to spend our capital on that silliness like this.

[WormGod]

Might be a good time to get stocks in "metals recycling" if this thing really takes off.

I was talking to 2 buddies who are county cops last night that I caught on their break about this whole thing. They had read about it as well and thought it was pretty ludicrous as well. Their take was, there are far more important things to do then to have a few cops having to tend to this stupid matter, let alone the amount time and money that has to be spent on such a thing. Plus, no money is to be made from this, so it isnt cost effective at all. And besides, anyone who gets his car crushed isnt likely to learn his lesson anyways.... he will hate this system policy and do it again out of rebellion.

I look at it this way.... if it were in effect in my state, and some cop decided he didnt like the sound of my PV or found my complete LED light conversion interesting and pulled me over, just to pop my hood and find a S/C in there, he "could" find my VX negligent, because with an aftermarket S/C, I am CLEARLY a street racer. Suddenly, it's impounded and I get a summons to go watch it get the dozer in 3 weeks at the state depot. I am showing up really pissed off, with lawyers (even if it breaks me, which I am certain it would), a news crew, a copy of my driving record which shows no points, and my insurance statement to show that I am a low risk driver. If after all of that, it still takes the pancake massacre, I might be pissed off just enough to show them the "other" thing I brought.

Granted, I am SURE there is a whole lot more to it, and it's really geared at multiple offenders and those with mismatched VINs, illegal parts, and/or stolen parts. The only thing mismatched in my VX is the driver, but that cannot be corrected.

[kelvin]

its still all BS! If the US did this, the government would be taken to court and ordered to pay damages. Thats how the system works here. MY property means its protected. This kind of behavior makes me want to kick kanada out of the union...

(seriously peeved at all this...)