Urban Sprawl Y'all....

[JHarris1385]

Go plant those endangered salamanders.

[VehiGAZ]

I sympathize - earlier this year, the local water company took over maintenance of the 100's-of-years-old "unmaintained" road that is conveniently parallel to my route home in the town just to the north of me, which means THEY GATED IT OFF AT BOTH ENDS!!! SOB's!!! Grrr...

Do what you can to save the route!

[nfpgasmask]

That's brutal man. It definitely is heart breaking to see much love land laid to waste by urban sprawl. But we all have to get used to it. People are still breeding like there are 2 or 3 other Earths we can inhabit. It is sickening, to say the least. That's why I moved to Nevada. I can't tell you how refreshing it is to get away, and I mean GET AWAY so easily. Living in Chicago offers no such luxury, at least not without a 4+ hour drive, possibly more.

Do what you can to save it, but I would say not to loose any sleep over it. There is little individuals can do to stop the greed of many.

Bart

PS - I am REALLY excited to take a trip this fall up to the Sierras in search of these:

[nfpgasmask]

Here is what you need to plant:

Santa Cruz Black Salamander:


Such cool little fragile creatures....

Bart

[ZEUS]

Urban sprawl and over-population run hand in hand... I live in Utah where there is a complete lack of respect for lack of space... Salt Lake City. SLC is in a valley, a non-expanding valley, full of Mormons wanting to have 6 to 8 kids per household! It bothers me, but that is their path to heaven... Then after they pop out their rabbit pack, they go to Moab to tell us, "The Easter Jeep Safari has become too big and YOU are destroying the land!" Get this... My dad got tired of this preaching and asked a protestor in Moab, "DO YOU HAVE SEX?!" HAHA! You should have seen everyone's faces! He makes a good point though... If over-population and/or urban sprawl upsets a person, that person has to fight immigration AND decide to not have kids, or just accept the fact humans are like a spreading cancer on the earth and there is no cure. <shrug>

[VXIRONwoMAN]

Urban sprawl and over-population run hand in hand... I live in Utah where there is a complete lack of respect for lack of space... Salt Lake City. SLC is in a valley, a non-expanding valley, full of Mormons wanting to have 6 to 8 kids per household! It bothers me, but that is their path to heaven... Then after they pop out their rabbit pack, they go to Moab to tell us, "The Easter Jeep Safari has become too big and YOU are destroying the land!" Get this... My dad got tired of this preaching and asked a protestor in Moab, "DO YOU HAVE SEX?!" HAHA! You should have seen everyone's faces! He makes a good point though... If over-population and/or urban sprawl upsets a person, that person has to fight immigration AND decide to not have kids, or just accept the fact humans are like a spreading cancer on the earth and there is no cure. <shrug>

LOL ...Go DAD!!! That is awesome. And he has a great point! Some people's kids...sheeesh!

[Chopper]

Don't get me started... 10 years ago, I had Bobcats in the front yard, and a gator or rattlesnake in the pool a couple times a year. Now I have Geritol victims walking fuzzy little dogs in the front, and the frogs and snakes are all gone

[Ldub]

I am REALLY excited to take a trip this fall up to the Sierras in search of these:

How do ya cook them things ?...& could you recommend a side dish that wouldn't have my palette all confused ?

I'm guessing white wine...everyone knows, fall salimanders = white wine.