Tones Cold Air Twister Intake????

[Lizardmen3477]

Has anyone installed this on their engine? If so i would like some input im thinking bout getting it but for 250.00 i want to make sure it is worth while. Any tips or suggestions are helpful. Pics as well would be nice.

[johnnyapollo]

I just got mine in the mail and here's my review so far (*haven't installed it yet):

1. Its big - lot bigger than you would think, even knowing the measurements. I haven't had time to fit it up yet but hope to this weekend.
2. When I got it and opened the box, the filter and shield were assembled and put in a sealed bag - removing the bag the shield was all smudged up and taking off the shield was tough - turns out the lip where it inserts had a small bend in it. Removing the filter, I noticed that 3 fins on the venture were broken off - wtf!??!! I then noticed that there were some breaks in the filter and was convinced that I got a return or something. Then I looked closer and realized the tears were from the rivets they used on the inside - why they didn't use smooth rivets I'll never know.
3. The filter may be good, but the overall quality I thought was lacking - the fact that the "venture" had broken fins, the bent lip, banged up and smudged cover and light tears on the filter material all scream "rush job" or "crappy chinese import" - I haven't emailed Tone yet and am sure he wasn't aware of anything being amiss - wanted to take some photos first. I'll post them here when I do.
4. I haven't corresponded with anyone else who bought it so I'm not sure if the issues described in #3 above were specific to the one I got or is indicative to the product - we'll see what happens when I contact them (or Tone).
5. You may want to wait until I get things resolved until you commit to buying one - they're rather expensive and at this point I'm rather crestfallen - everything hinges on the customer service aspect now. I'm emailing Tone with this post.

-- John

[Dino]

OK This is my opinion of this device. I have a lot of years of tuning cars behind me and I say that as far as performance goes, this thing is BS. There is only so much you can do about the volumetric efficiency of an engine, BEFORE the valves, combustion chamber and exhaust. A supercharger is an improvement, but swirling the air around isn't going to do much to improve on that. Save your money. (rolls eyes and shakes head)

Funny that there is ZERO data about any kind of performance improvement on tonemonday.com

I want to see some HP numbers before and after install.

[johnnyapollo]

Hey Dino,

The "twister" or what Green refers to as a "venture" IMHO doesn't do anything - it's the length and surface area of filtration, the quality of the filtering media, and the heat shield that your really buying here. I thought that was understood by everyone considering the purchase - even then the size of this unit probably wouldn't do much for a non-SC engine. My concerns about the fins being broken were more about build quality and less about how it would affect performance. You're getting a mongo filter here stuck on a huge pipe - combine that with a supercharged engine and wide exhaust and there's no doubt about a performance gain.

On that last topic, unless you open up your exhaust, putting on a performance intake wont do much for performance - it will eliminate some restriction on the intake side, but without doing anything to the exhaust you're really wasting the benefit of having it (though it does give the engine a more aggressive "sucking sound" under the hood). The real performance gain comes when you change out both the exhaust and intake.

-- John

[Dino]

OK I can see how more filter area would help.

[Tone]

Gee Dino, in your few short months on here and your 22 threads, you're quick to start criticizing. Had you searched and used your head, you'd have found that there IS dyno info on changing from the restrictive stock airbox to a filter with a larger surface area and even moreso with a blown application. True a better exhaust with a better intake arrangement is even better but the stock pipe and muffler does NOT flow all that it can. More air in will send more air out, restricted or not.

When you can start providing info that is helpful and backup by FACTS, you might really be credible. Until then, your 'years of tuning experience' are just hot air.

Now your test light writeup (and other idle musings to hear yourself talk) were funny - all cars draw some current rest - maybe you should disconnect the battery everytime you park un unplug all the fuses......

As for the filter being damaged, **** happens to all manufacturers and can slip out. Had he simply notified me, it would have been replaced right away. Green products have always been above average in quality and are superior to K&N.