Probably want to bring that up over on the 4x4Wire since the organizers are over there. I like Portal and may stay there regardless (just swing by the other place to see where I will be heading the next day). Will probably want to check first to make sure Portal didn't go through with their plans to doze it and turn it into a Class A motorhome park (that is why they changed locations in the first place). Did you stay at the other campground last year Tom? How was it? The advantage of staying at HQ is the convinience.