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    Torque binding when turning a sharp corner

    Our Vehicross is experiencing what I'm told is torque binding when turning a sharp corner. Can someone please explain this and how to fix it?

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    What are the symptoms - tire chirp, bouncing, ... ?
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    It feels like the transmission is in super-low and the tire is rubbing on something (which it is not). After the car is straightened out, it's fine.

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    Could be a few things - I experienced something similar when the TOD speed sensors went out on mine (the FWD was bascially disabled so it was pulling load during turns instead of driving the front wheels). What you're describing could also be bad CV joint(s) from my past experience with Hondas.

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    The wheel bearing are going bad too. Could bad wheel bearings lead to bad CV joints?

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    It's common for short-wheelbase vehicles to do this, and with only 90" the VX is firmly in that category. My Trooper RS did the same thing.

    If you've got worn out steering/suspension components the added stress will make it more apparent.
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    Mine has done this since 5k miles (when purchaced)

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyapollo View Post
    Could be a few things - I experienced something similar when the TOD speed sensors went out on mine (the FWD was bascially disabled so it was pulling load during turns instead of driving the front wheels). What you're describing could also be bad CV joint(s) from my past experience with Hondas.

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    TOD Speed Sensors
    Are these the same "Wheel Speed Sensors" noted in the shop manual?

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    If I'm not mistaken the wheel speed sensors are at each wheel and feedback to the TOD ECU to determine when "slippage" is occuring - the TOD compensates by adjusting more power to front (back is always at "full"). The TOD speed sensors that went out on mine are both on the TOD unit itself - one in front and one behind the transfer case - these measure the speed the internal gears are running and also feedback to the TOD ECU so that it can adjust power to front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlegoman View Post
    TOD Speed Sensors
    Are these the same "Wheel Speed Sensors" noted in the shop manual?
    I'm pretty sure that the answer to that is 'no'. There are Wheel Speed Sensors at the wheels, but they are used for the ABS system. The TOD speed sensor is located on the prop shafts, if I recall correctly. It is closer to the tranny than the wheels.

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    Yep....mine is doing the same thing

    I have the same problem....turn sharp and starts binding.....tod light freaking out and sometimes you can hear a "Thump" in the rear end.......I am totally lost on this TOD thing.....sometimes it's working fine then sometimes its freaking Haywire!!! Have Read the threads on TOD but still lost......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlegoman View Post
    Our Vehicross is experiencing what I'm told is torque binding when turning a sharp corner. Can someone please explain this and how to fix it?
    I wonder if you're seeing what I described as "Chirping"? When I asked about it, I was told it was pretty much normal. http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12036

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    how fast are you doing when you get this? every so often my ABS used to (when i still had ABS) kick on when i would make a wheels locked turn and touch the brakes at all the whole car would shudder until i released the brakes

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    ran across this old thread and thought i would input - this is what mine did when the chain in the transfer case stretched and the clutches went bad - according to borg werner our transfer cases are completely unique to the vehicross

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    "Unique" - as in: it has a different part number, but otherwise can be easily interchanged or...

    As in: do not even consider substituting them!

    A lot of people (aka manufacturer's reps) like to do things "by the book".
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