HD DVD format dead?

[HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE]

I'd agree on the size thing, but completely disagree on the MS thing. Apple is just as proprietary as Blu-ray, and should not have won out. MS is more compatible and customizable.

Sorry, but I think Apple is Crapple. MS might be a monopolizing, money grubbing, take over everything company, but their products are universal and vastly superior. Apple is the dumbed-down version of technology with a cherry coating to appeal to the masses. If it wasn't for the I-pod and a few snobbish graphic designers, Apple would be dead.

Bart

Interesting opinion, but based in what, you have a crappy wintel box? Microsoft is the McDonald's of computing platforms. It may be big, but it puts out flavorless fat and people gobble it up. MS products, both software and hardware are sh_t. Apple invented the personal computer and every PC magazine rates its products and operating system vastly superior to Microsoft.I am typing this on my brand new apple laptop, I have yet to have an issue with it and I have had it a few months.I read vehicross.info on my iphone at the beach. I can run windows on my laptop ( why would I want to?) You can't run apple on a dell or sony or any other microsoft crap.Microsoft is popular because it is cheap, Just like the hd-dvd format was cheap, and look where that format is headed,in the sh_t can.I have a xbox, one that works, but I hear they have like a 80 percent failure rate...I wish apple would start making video game consoles and car stereos.

[nfpgasmask]

Interesting opinion, but based in what, you have a crappy wintel box? Microsoft is the McDonald's of computing platforms. It may be big, but it puts out flavorless fat and people gobble it up. MS products, both software and hardware are sh_t. Apple invented the personal computer and every PC magazine rates its products and operating system vastly superior to Microsoft.I am typing this on my brand new apple laptop, I have yet to have an issue with it and I have had it a few months.I read vehicross.info on my iphone at the beach. I can run windows on my laptop ( why would I want to?) You can't run apple on a dell or sony or any other microsoft crap.Microsoft is popular because it is cheap, Just like the hd-dvd format was cheap, and look where that format is headed,in the sh_t can.I have a xbox, one that works, but I hear they have like a 80 percent failure rate...I wish apple would start making video game consoles and car stereos.

At work I use a Lenovo T60 running XPSP2. I have no issues. It doesn't lock up or crash or whatever you probably think. IBM/Lenovo makes a solid PC. At home, I have a personally built PC with pieces I put together here and there from Newegg.com. It also runs fast and very solid. I edit video on it, build websites, play and edit music and sound f/x, play a variety of games, watch movies, edit photos, etc, etc. No crashing. No slowness. No issues.

Funny how you say flavorless fat. Are you projecting? Flavorless fat is making a computer that comes in a bunch of gimicky colors so people gobble it up. Not to mention their huge ad campaign for I-Pod. If Windows is the McDonalds of operating systems, then I-PODs are the BigMacs of the MP3 players. Talk about trying to appeal to the masses. And don't get me started on I-Tunes either.

And you're right, I cannot run MACOS on my PC, but like you said, why would I want to? If I did that, I wouldn't be able to run HALF the apps I run on my PC.

And yes, MS is cheap, but if it works just as good, why should I pay 2 or 3 times the price just so I can have a trendy purple computer? But then again, I must admit, I am biased here since I work in IT, and basically get everything for free.

There really is no arguing this point. Some people like MAC for whatever reason, and I choose PC because it does EVERYTHING I want it to, with NO LIMITS. To me, MAC is limited. It has its place, but it is limited. And I still think MAC would be nothing without their precious little I-Pod.

Bart

[snowtrooper1966]

Thread hijack alert!

[nfpgasmask]

Yeah, sorry Utah, I got carried away.

Bart

[snowtrooper1966]

No offense, Bart!
I was just hoping some wanted to continue the discussion....
Best,
James
snowtrooper1966

[nfpgasmask]

No offense, Bart!
I was just hoping some wanted to continue the discussion....
Best,
James
snowtrooper1966

Oh none taken!!

And actually, to get things back on topic, I was thinking of just getting a nice HD DVD player that can upscale all my old DVDs, and then just get a PS3 to playback Blu-Ray. That said, I have heard some mention that the PS3 does not really play back Blu-ray movies as well as an actual Blu-Ray DVD player. Does anyone have any info on this?

Bart

[snowtrooper1966]

Hey,
If you are looking for a stand alone HD DVD player, I would suggest a Toshiba XA2. That is the model I used to own, and has the same upconverting software as the unit I now own. The Renon is widely regarded as the best upconverter @ it's price point.
As far as the PS3, I actually have heard that that seems to be one of the best Blu players out there.
I personally would not get one for that.
Reasons being:
It is a game console that happens to play Blu.

It tends to run very hot (shortens life expectency).

The internal cooling fan is very loud.

No remote to access disk playback options, you have to use the PS3's controller!

There is a remote available, but reports do not favor it's usefulness.

And last, if one's intent is to use this as a gaming console, I hear there are not too many good games out yet...

You can buy two seperate standalone units (HD DV & BluRay) for close to the same price as the Samsung 5K hybrid player, but most folks have limited space considerations, as well as HDMI inputs. The other bonus for the hybrid player is that you do not have to explain to the wife or kids which movie goes into which player...

Food for thought

Best,
James
snowtrooper1966