next mod: Helix Throttle Body Spacer

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

I actually have 2 new mods Ill be offering:
MSD Dash Hawk (plug and play for all VXs) and our
HELIX Throttle Body Spacers

Ive been selling these out of my shop for a few yrs
now

http://www.streetandperformanceelectronics.com/hptp.htm

for a variety of cars and suvs
Customers repsonse has always been good.
For the $ (about $120) they seem like a well worth mod.
Their patented design seems to be the one asked for by name.
I sent them an extra throttle body I had here so they could
mock up a test piece.
Ill have it in a few days and when I get it Ill post up a few pics
of the before during and after install.
And to help check the workings of it all Im going to be using this
item from MSD.

http://www.dashhawk.com/

I may have time to actually take my VX to the track this weekend
and get a 1/4 mile base time too as it sits with the muffler and
Green drop in filter anyway.
And then maybe try to get a time after for more accurate results.
Seat of the pants feel, mpg etc too.

keep you posted
thanks
Dayle

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

and one more thing, anyone with a mid yr or late 2000
or 01 VX I may need a favor from you.
I may need you to take some pics of your throttle body
at a few angles so I can see what if any differences are
between yours and the 99-00 VXs
thanks.

[johnnyapollo]

As far as I know there shouldn't be any difference in TBs between the years.

Sorry to be controversial, but I don't see how that spacer is supposed to do anything other than restrict air-flow, as it's actually occuplying mores space than the solid "circle" of the TB - I don't see any real-world, measurable results so please post some if you have access to any - sounds like magic-fairy-dust-voodoo to me.

-- John

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

this is not a racing device, this is for the daily
driver, one
that would need better throttle response,
drivability and fuel
economy. with our patented design we have
increased the air flow
at the intake manifold port 3-8%, thus more air
enters the engine
at low engine speed. the increased air volume is
detected by the
heated oygen sensor and readjusts the fuel mix to
a specified ratio.
more air in, more mid power, less foot pressure to
obtain 20-60hp
needed to keep a vehicle at speed. the less foot
pressure is
using less air, thus using less fuel with the same
power output.
yes the thickness of the spacer is increasing the
manifold plenum
volume, but its the throttle body spacer design
that allows the
more efficient air delivery to the intake port.
smooth bore spacers
do not promote this type of action and thats why
we say not all
throttle body spacers are the same.

On top of that all, honestly I was skeptical about them too
myself until I started selling them and customers came
back raving about them and their friends come back and ask
for them by name because of how much they like them.
So customer feedback has been overwhelming for the last
2 yrs on them.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

As far as I know there shouldn't be any difference in TBs between the years.


-- John

as far as difference, according to the dealer mid yr 2000
they changed the placement of I think the aic sensor on top
and thats what Im looking into.

[Chopper]

People buy the "Turbonator" and swear by it too. I don't see how stretching the intake length is gonna increase airflow. No decrease in airflow restriction, nothing pumping more air....it's nonsense. Wait!!! I need some magnets for my fuel line....there's one born every 16.345 seconds

[TheUltimateMan]

Well I think it sounds interesting! It could be nothing but a noisemaker, but I'm optimistic for you...

Let us know how everything works when it get's installed, then you can shut all these jealous naysayers up :bgwg:

[etlsport]

more air in, more mid power, less foot pressure to
obtain 20-60hp
needed to keep a vehicle at speed. the less foot
pressure is
using less air

so does it make the vx use less air or more air?

[Ldub]

Wait!!! I need some magnets for my fuel line....there's one born every 16.345 seconds

Don't be hatin' on the fuel line magnets Chopper...I've had some for over two years & the "art" on my fridge hasn't gotten ANY closer to the floor.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

Well I think it sounds interesting! It could be nothing but a noisemaker, but I'm optimistic for you...

Let us know how everything works when it get's installed, then you can shut all these jealous naysayers up :bgwg:

my customers who have them in their other types of vehicles
have all been happy, so Im optimistic.
Its a shame so many people are so negative towards it
I guess it will take a few of owners to try it to prove or
not prove what its capable of.

[Hotsauce]

Show us your dyno charts to support your claims please.

ECU reset between each run for consistancy

John C.

[Chopper]

It ain't negativity....it's science. You give it a whirl. Good luck

[Chopper]

Don't be hatin' on the fuel line magnets Chopper...I've had some for over two years & the "art" on my fridge hasn't gotten ANY closer to the floor.

What did you end up doing with the electric, rust preventer?...when you're not using it to prevent rust?

[etlsport]

What did you end up doing with the electric, rust preventer?...when you're not using it to prevent rust?

come on chop.. its for tightening up the abs with electric pulses

AZ - all in good fun......i dont know much about this mod, curious to see how the dyno numbers (or 1/4 mile times) come back

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

they have plenty of dyno charts from other applications
on their site
(helix's site) Street and Performance...
anywhere from 8-28 hp depending on vehicle
so even if our cars got 5-8 hp, which is very plausable
then imho its worth the $. If we got more, great.

Plus anyone who believes in a product, just because of the
dyno sheet and not there to monitor how it was done, is kidding
themselves.
Personally, I test my stuff, on the street against an actual
other vehicle.
4 races, 2 prior to the part installed
2 after.. racing the same car. Both autos and similar in
size, motor etc.
And see what the end results are on the street (or frontage
rd in our case).
It either that or take it to the track for some passes before
and after. Which makes more sense and are actual results.

I dont offer parts I dont personally try and or have tried or believe in.