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    Quote Originally Posted by VehiGAZ View Post
    I'm not the expert on this topic, but it seems that lifting puts stress on the CVs making them susceptible to failure.

    Experts - does flipping the CVs help in this case? Or am I thinking of something else that gets flipped (ball joints?)?
    Yes, you are thinking of the ball-joint flip, which may or may not help with aligning your VX after the lift.

    Ascinder's CV boots most likely tore because his lift (which is roughly 1-2"s more than mine) put his CV joints at an extreme angle, which will eventually cause them to tear. My lift (OME 912s with about 10-12 cranks of the torsion bars) was much less than Ascinder's, and my CV boots seem to be ok, for the moment. CrnCnn has the same lift as me and his tore. I think it also depends on how dry rotted your boots are also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post
    That I don't know. I don't think you want the heavy duty ones, I think those are the 914s???? I am not sure on this. I would call Rocky-Road and ask.

    Bart
    I believe those to be the 919's, which I have.
    Great if you drag all your tools & spare parts with you everywhere you go.
    Probably not so great if you travel with a "normal" load...would lift maybe "slightly" more (maybe 1/8-1/4") & also make the ride more harsh, especially over speed bumps etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VehiGAZ View Post
    I'm not the expert on this topic, but it seems that lifting puts stress on the CVs making them susceptible to failure.

    Experts - does flipping the CVs help in this case? Or am I thinking of something else that gets flipped (ball joints?)?

    You can not "flip" CV joints. The ball joint flip will do nothing for relieving stress on your CV's. It only makes wheel alignments easier. The only way to relieve the stress on the CV's for a lifted VX is to have some diff drop bracets fab'd up to rlieve the angle of your axle shafts....or just chop all that IFS stuff off and do a SAS!
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    OK, so I do not need the heavy duty 919's, since I only drive around with SnowtrooperJR and myself.
    Any one have experience if the Independedt4X 912's are worth the extra dough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowtrooper1966 View Post
    OK, so I do not need the heavy duty 919's, since I only drive around with SnowtrooperJR and myself.
    Any one have experience if the Independedt4X 912's are worth the extra dough?
    Best,
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    was the Ascinder CV failure because of the lift or age of the CV's.
    The lift, but probably the way the way the cvs were put on. I replaced the old boots with mecatechs when I did the lift. The two inners failed, the outers are both still fine. I think the shaft angle in the inner cup is higher than the outer cup resulting in the inners having to flex a lot more as the shaft rotates, leading to increased wear. Different boot placement may alleviate this by helping the boot not fold in on itself on the bottoms and stretching at the tops, both causing extra wear.

    I'm not the expert on this topic, but it seems that lifting puts stress on the CVs making them susceptible to failure.

    Experts - does flipping the CVs help in this case? Or am I thinking of something else that gets flipped (ball joints?)?
    Yes, lifting stresses the cvs. But they will be fine for a good long time as long as they stay nice and lubed and the boots stay together.

    Ball joints get flipped, cvs get more angled the higher they get lifted. Installing diff drop brackets reduces that angle somewhat(less stress and wear). With the drop brackets and 4.5" lift, my cvs are only seeing a 2"~2.5" lift. That is why I maintain the boots were put in wrong initially.
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