question and poll regarding abs module

[etlsport]

iirc the only way anyone was able to remove the electrical side of it without removing it from the VX was to break the bottom mounting tabs off.. seriously.. its easier to just replace the whole thing and bleed the brakes

[Marlin]

I am sure I will get flamed for this, but I know there are some other VXers that run with the ABS fuse pulled. ABS is not really needed. Mine only activated when I am wheeling and brake on a loose surface, just feather the brakes, problem goes away. I am not a big fan of ABS in general. Mine currently works, but if it fails, that fuse goes bye bye.

[PK]

I have heard a lot of people say that they don't need ABS.

I would like to relate my experience -

A few years ago my son and I attended an Advance Sport driving day.
The day was held at a race track, 8 students, 4 small Alfa Romeos, 4 x experienced racing car drivers as instructors.
We were taught all types of braking techniques including ABS, cadance braking, feathering, and hand brake use for turns etc.
The Alfa's were set up with a dashboard switch that turned on / off the ABS.
A section of track was wet down and we all tried emergency stops from 50MPH with different techniques we had been taught. After trying in the Alfa's, we also tried in our own cars.

No one, including the race car drivers, could stop in less distance without ABS, as they could with ABS.
The different techniques we had learnt certainly made a difference, but the closest anyone got to an ABS stop (without using ABS) was about 2 car lengths.
By all means, drive your vehicle without ABS if you want to, but don't think you can stop as quick. It just ain't gonna happen.

Just thought it worth mentioning.

Of course Marlin doesn't need to stop any more, he can just crash right through.

PK

[don moore]

Of course Marlin doesn't need to stop any more, he can just crash right through.

PK

i like that

[mrtew]

A section of track was wet down and ...No one, including the race car drivers,[/U][/B] could stop in less distance without ABS, as they could with ABS...

On smooth wet pavement ABS might help but on a bumpy road I bet I could stop at least 50 car lengths shorter now that my abs has gone out. I LOVE my truck twice as much since the light came on! With all the snow now and my new Coopers I just slam on the brakes and slide to quick silent graceful stop every time. No more clattering and shuttering and grinding vibration. So peaceful and reassuring to just have the truck freaking stop when you press down on the pedal. I've almost had a crash at least three times when I slammed on the brakes on bad pavement (always seems to occur where everyone slams on their brakes) and the ABS decided that it was better to keep the wheels spinning than let them lock up. And around here there's more bad pavement than good. I LOVE having no ABS!!!

I finally did get sick of looking at that ABS light though and so I bent the pin like it shows in this thread http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12016 and it's still on. Then I pulled the fuse and it's still on! Then I replaced the fuse and unhooked the battery for a minute and it's still on!!! What am I missing??? How do I shut off the dash light!

[VX crazy]

I am sure I will get flamed for this, but I know there are some other VXers that run with the ABS fuse pulled. ABS is not really needed. Mine only activated when I am wheeling and brake on a loose surface, just feather the brakes, problem goes away. I am not a big fan of ABS in general. Mine currently works, but if it fails, that fuse goes bye bye.

I agree Marlin, but what benefit is there to pull the fuse? The light will remain on with fuse pulled wont it? I didnt have ABS in the other VX and I dont in the current VX, just want to get the light to go off so inspection is not an issue.

[deermagnet]

...just want to get the light to go off so inspection is not an issue.

Lisa, it's so easy and just takes a few minutes to do-
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12016

Open hood, remove ABS module connector, bend over the #16 pin, replace connector, close hood. Two to three minutes tops.

Say goodbye to ABS forever.

Mark Griffin

[VX crazy]

Thank you!! I too have no intention of fixing it whatever IT is.....

[Anita]

Even though I have the parts to fix my ABS I wont. I have had several extremely close calls when it was working. Slammed down on the brakes and it just kept on going and going, stopping just inches from the car in front of me.

Since it stopped working I have never had a close call... my stops have been quicker and in control. Maybe that is just my experience but I would never restore the ABS function while I posess my truck.

[deermagnet]

Anita, I agree 100%. That is the worst feeling when you hit the brakes and keep going 'cuz the ABS won't let you stop. Lots of other 'Zu owners over at the Planet have the same complaints. This Isuzu ABS system is too sensitive! If you think it's bad on pavement, try it on snow sometime. Holy crap! Very scary stuff.

All the new VX owners should test their ABS on a couple surfaces to see how sensitive it is on their VX so they don't get a big surprise when they need to stop quick. If I buy another ABS vehicle, I'll check it out right away and if it's too sensitive it'll get disabled immediately. Word.

Mark Griffin