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    replacing the ABS module

    so its finally time to replace that abs module.. dusted off the new unit thats been sitting on a shelf for the last year

    but im not sure where to start... should i drain the brake fluid out of the vx first? (start the car, open the bleeder screws and let it drain) or can i remove the abs unit with the system still full then just bleed everything out later?

    any tips?

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    I'm clueless on the ABS. Sorry.
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    Put a smiley after you say that Bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    so its finally time to replace that abs module.. dusted off the new unit thats been sitting on a shelf for the last year

    but im not sure where to start... should i drain the brake fluid out of the vx first? (start the car, open the bleeder screws and let it drain) or can i remove the abs unit with the system still full then just bleed everything out later?

    any tips?
    Might start by lookin' at page 5B2 in the VX shop manual...

    They mention nothing about having to drain down the entire system...

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    well i got the unit replaced (no more abs light hurray!)

    but this brake bleeding is taking forever by myself.. anyone in the downingtown area wanna come push the brake pedal down a few hundred times for me? beer and dinner on me!

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    Tom tsk tsk

    I'm clueless on the ABS. Sorry.

    I just cant say how helpful this must have been to the thread starter

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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    well i got the unit replaced (no more abs light hurray!)

    but this brake bleeding is taking forever by myself.. anyone in the downingtown area wanna come push the brake pedal down a few hundred times for me? beer and dinner on me!
    Vacuum pump from Sears or Harbor Freight...

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    all done! replacing the unit itself took me 15 minutes tops

    bleeding the brake system took about an hour for the rear passenger side (was doing alone... pump brakes.. wedge pipe between seat and pedal.. open bleeder.. close bleeder.. rinse and repeat

    doing the other three wheels took about 15 minutes cause my roommate showed up and became the official brake pusher..

    end result..

    no more abs light and blean brake fluid... mmmm good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    all done! replacing the unit itself took me 15 minutes tops

    bleeding the brake system took about an hour for the rear passenger side (was doing alone... pump brakes.. wedge pipe between seat and pedal.. open bleeder.. close bleeder.. rinse and repeat

    doing the other three wheels took about 15 minutes cause my roommate showed up and became the official brake pusher..

    end result..

    no more abs light and blean brake fluid... mmmm good!
    WOOT !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    WOOT !
    you said it! this time last month.. i had an ABS light, a charging indicator light and a check engine light

    now i have.... a power mode light

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    So where exactly is the module located? Maybe I should try to find a used one myself...good job.

    Bart

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    ill do a photographic writeup later this weekend

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    "I just cant say how helpful this must have been to the thread starter"

    There's method to my madness. His post was about to drop off the first page so I was just bumping it for him Yer welcum!

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    here goes...

    heres how i replaced my abs module.. it was very easy for me.. i have a pretty decent amount of experience working on cars but i am far from being considered a great mechanic too..

    tools i used...

    8mm crescent (open end) wrench
    10mm crescent (open end) wrench
    12mm crescent (open end) wrench
    30" of 1/4" inner diameter (ID) clear tubing
    32oz bottle of gatorade (empty)
    48oz (1.5 quarts) DOT3 synthetic brake fluid (I used valvoline brand)
    someone to sit in vx and push the brake pedal on command

    Disconnect the negative (-) battery cable

    locate your abs module


    find the wire harness connected to it, on the right side of the harness there is a little nub you can grab onto, pull it straight out (sideways from the harness) until it wont go any further (should pull out about 1-1.5 inches


    remove the harness by pulling straight upwards


    using the 10mm crescent wrench, undo all 5 connections on the abs module.. the threads are pretty deep so it will take you a little while, i started in the back, then did the two on the right then the two on the left, but i dont think order matters

    after getting each one unscrewed completely i let it rest in the abs module still to keep debris from getting into the lines

    take the 12mm crescent wrench and undo the two nuts holding the abs module on either side

    be careful not to bend the brake lines, gently move them out of the way and wiggle your abs unit out

    mine took a good amount of wiggling, but i also have about 3 trillion aftermarket wires running through that area

    on either side of the abs module where you had to take off the 12mm nuts, there are rubber stoppers in the unit where the threaded mounting bolts stick out of, pull them out and put them in your new abs unit if you dont have them already

    slide your new abs unit in place, be careful not to bend the brake lines, make sure the mounting bolts and rubber stoppers are in place and secure the unit with the two 12mm nuts you removed before taking out the unit

    reconnect all 5 brake lines, i started with the back, then did the two on the left and then the two on the right, start them by hand as far as you can go to avoid cross-threading

    take care not to overtighten to the point you strip threads

    with the locking slide still pulled all the way out, carefully put the electrical harness back on and lock it into place with the sliding piece you had to pull out to remove the harness before

    double check that all of your connections are secure and that your wiring harness cannot be pulled loose

    reconnect your negative (-) battery cable

    start your VX (BUT DONT DRIVE ANYWHERE!)

    smile at the fact that your abs light is out, admire how easy the replacement was and wonder why you didnt do it weeks ago

    stop the vx

    take your bottle, pour 1-2" of clean brake fluid in the bottom of it

    cut a hole in the lid just large enough to pass the clear plastic tubing through

    insert the plastic tubing through the hole, make sure the end is completely submerged in the brake fluid or you will get more air in your lines!

    remove the abs fuse



    find someone to sit in the drivers seat of your vx and step on the brake pedal

    did you remember to remove the abs fuse?

    start the vx... curse the fact that the abs light is back

    if your abs light is not back on... remove the ABS fuse!

    make sure your brake fluid reservoir is full, and remains full during the entire process (black cap, yellow fluid)




    do not leave the cap off the of the brake fluid reservoir! debris in your brake fluid = very bad


    get under your vx behind the rear passenger wheel

    locate the bleeder valve, it is on the caliper towards the rear of the vehicle (note this photo is the front drivers side but you must start at the rear passenger side!)

    in this photo it is the cleanish looking round black piece on the caliper



    remove the cap off of the bleeder valve and put is somewhere you wont lose it



    this is your bleeder valve



    slide the end of your tubing over the valve, make sure its snug, be sure the other end is fully submerged in brake fluid in your bottle



    fit the 8mm crescent wrench onto the bleeder valve (just below the clear tubing)

    check
    did you pull your abs fuse?
    is your brake fluid reservoir full?
    is your vx running?

    have the person in the drivers seat pump the brake pedal at least 3 times and hold the pedal firmly down

    while the pedal is being held down, turn the wrench to open the bleeder valve, a surge of brake fluid should come down the tube and the brake pedal will drop to the floor, once the initial surge is over, close the bleeder valve

    pump the brake pedal 3 times, firmess should return to the pedal by the 3rd pump, hold the brake pedal down

    open the bleeder valve and close after the surge of fluid

    keep an eye on the brake fluid reservoir!! if it goes dry you have to bleed the master cylinder and then start the brake bleeding process over again! mine would get down to the "add" line after every 3-4 times i opened the bleeder valve.. if you have another person around to just keep an eye on the reservoir it would be a good idea, otherwise just remember to keep an eye on it

    repeat this 12-15 times at minimum but continue until no air comes out with the brake fluid

    be sure the bleeder valve is fully closed, remove the tube from the valve (watch your eyes for spray)

    replace the cap for the bleeder valve

    check brake fluid reservoir!!!

    move to the rear drivers side tire

    have helper pump the brakes again and repeat process 12-15 times or until all air is removed, watch your head and arms, the exhaust pipe/muffler will be very hot

    check brake fluid reservoir!!!

    move to the front passenger tire
    repeat bleeding process 8-10 times or until all air is removed

    check brake fluid reservoir!!!

    move to front drivers tire
    repeat bleeding process 8-10 times or until all air is removed

    turn off the vx

    replace your abs fuse

    top off your brake fluid



    tips

    i had no brake fluid coming out of the lines disconnected from the abs module, but have a rag handy just in case.. brake fluid eats paint

    make sure make sure make sure that your brake fluid reservoir stays full the whole time

    there is no such thing as over-bleeding your brakes.. worst thing that could happen is you waste brake fluid, so take your time and be thorough



    any thing else i should add to this feel free to chime in before i turn this into a how-to
    Last edited by etlsport : 11/10/2008 at 09:27 AM

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    Awesome write up, E! One question though, why do you have to bleed the lines? Is it because air gets in there when you remove the ABS unit?

    Bart

    EDIT: One more question, do you feel the return of your ABS? And how do you like it compared to before? I haven't done mine simply because I actually like the feel of no ABS when stopping, especially offroad, but I may change my tune this winter...we'll see.

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