Timing Belt Parts

[nfpgasmask]

So, I am probably going to do my timing belt within the next 2 months. I have been seeing on eBay Timing Belt kits that come with a water pump. So, is it common practice to change the water pump at the same time as doing the timing belt?

Can someone give me a breakdown of all the parts that are needed to do the Timing Belt swap? Also, any special tools needed?

I found this thread which talked about a lot of extra parts and not just a belt.

http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ht=timing+belt

Thanks- Bart

[tom4bren]

The only reason to do the water pump at the same time is 'cause you're already 97.2% there & Gooney Bird says that your water pump will start leaking 2 days after you replace your timing belt.

Sorry, I don't have any info on the parts you'll need.

[kodiak]

I just did the timing belt on my montaro about 2 months ago. I tried to save money by not doing the water pump too. 1 week later the water pump started leaking. So, yes replacing the WP is a good idea. It will save you a lot of time.

is it common practice to change the water pump at the same time as doing the timing belt?

[iamironman]

nfp,

I bought THIS timing belt and waterpump kit last July when I blew my engine and had it replaced witha used engine. The mechanic threw the labor in with the R&R since the engine was already out and EVERYBODY I talked to said to do the TB change since the price diff between the belt alone and the pump alone is way more cost effective to buy the full kit and do the pump at the same time... and as I watched the mechanic do the pump at the same time, it took him like an extra 15 mins to switch the pump then do the belt.

[newthings]

I am having the timing belt done Monday.
This is what I am replacing:

Tensioner/pulley 89713 62561
Push rod 8973285120
Timing Belt 89713-63210

A/C Idler Pulley 8971783540
Tensioner arm/pulley 8971258601
Serpentine belt (Gatorback) 4060900
Supercharger Belt GTR 4060485

Radiator Hose upper
Radiator Hose lower
New Super aluminum Radiator with fans!
Hose Heater bypass 8-97167694-2
(May not be accessible)
Water pump 8971675540
Water pump gasket included
Post/stud 8971362660

I do not know what "Seals for the cam" is/are, noted in Aussie post
EBAY kit cost a lot less the Isuzu parts.

Roy

[Chopper]

Do the pump and gasket, make sure you replace the tensioner. Don't let anyone talk you out of it, brother Bart

[Ldub]

Do the pump and gasket, make sure you replace the tensioner. Don't let anyone talk you out of it, brother Bart

Good advice...

My two cents is this...any time I replace something that's "deep in" which will most likely entail a bill that's more than 60-70% labor cost(if I weren't doing it myself), I either go with OEM from Merlin, or an aftermarket source, if it's been proven as good or better than OEM...
Never shop for "internals" with price in mind...

[kpaske]

Hey Bart,

Make sure you read the Timing Belt TSB in my gallery - when I did mine I had instructions from two different sources that were both WRONG (including the CD manual) and I screwed up my timing real bad. I finally took it to a shop and it took THEM two tries before they found this info and got it right.

Kyle

[nfpgasmask]

Do the pump and gasket, make sure you replace the tensioner. Don't let anyone talk you out of it, brother Bart

Well, even good 'ol Merlin tried to talk me out of that $287.88 part, but I resisted my internal sense of cheapness and bought it anyway.

Here is a breakdown of what I purchased for the timing belt stuff and the price tag from Merlin:

1) Timing Belt - $58.79
2) Water Pump - $156.79
3) Tensioner Pulley - $287.88
4) Push Rod - $77.74
5) Post/Stud - $14
6) Upper Radiator Hose - $25.13
7) Lower Radiator Hose - $18.07
8) O-rings (coolant leak fix) - $6.58
9) Idler Pulley - $101.44

Plus a few other bits and pieces bringing me to a *quite* painful $784.88!!!

Now, at that cost, I definitely need to do the job myself. I ain't paying another huge sum for a mech to do it!!

I also asked Merlin about changing the radiator itself, and he said it really isn't necessary unless you are having problems. So, I didn't order a new radiator. But, I will be pulling it out, so is there a way to clean a radiator? I would at least like to do that.

Thanks everyone for the excellent help.

Bart

[kodiak]

That’s where I got it! Sorry deermagnet. I should just assume that all the VX wmv files I have are yours.

Bart,
All I’d do to the radiator is clean it really good. You could go get it pressure tested, But other then that there’s not mush ells you can do.

[ScottinMA]

Where did you get the parts? From Merlin? And do you recall how much all that cost?

I am having the timing belt done Monday.
This is what I am replacing:

Tensioner/pulley 89713 62561
Push rod 8973285120
Timing Belt 89713-63210

A/C Idler Pulley 8971783540
Tensioner arm/pulley 8971258601
Serpentine belt (Gatorback) 4060900
Supercharger Belt GTR 4060485

Radiator Hose upper
Radiator Hose lower
New Super aluminum Radiator with fans!
Hose Heater bypass 8-97167694-2
(May not be accessible)
Water pump 8971675540
Water pump gasket included
Post/stud 8971362660

I do not know what "Seals for the cam" is/are, noted in Aussie post
EBAY kit cost a lot less the Isuzu parts.

Roy

[nfpgasmask]

I think Merlin does have all these parts. The list adds up fast. I think for everything above (that list sounds about right) it was close to $600.

I will be doing this in the spring as well.

Bart

[ScottinMA]

Bart,

Appreciate the info. I'm planning on a spring makeover as well.

I think Merlin does have all these parts. The list adds up fast. I think for everything above (that list sounds about right) it was close to $600.

I will be doing this in the spring as well.

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

Ok, I am going to get up early and tackle my timing belt change. I plan to document/photograph the process with hopes to put together a nice how-to.

If anyone has any tips/pointers let me know!

Beau/Clint, if you guys wanna come by and observe/help, just gimme a call.

Bart

[etlsport]

good luck!

only advice i can give is.. have a few beers handy for when you are done