Timing Belt Parts

[nfpgasmask]

So, I am probably going to do my timing belt within the next 2 months. I have been seeing on eBay Timing Belt kits that come with a water pump. So, is it common practice to change the water pump at the same time as doing the timing belt?

Can someone give me a breakdown of all the parts that are needed to do the Timing Belt swap? Also, any special tools needed?

I found this thread which talked about a lot of extra parts and not just a belt.

http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ht=timing+belt

Thanks- Bart

[tom4bren]

The only reason to do the water pump at the same time is 'cause you're already 97.2% there & Gooney Bird says that your water pump will start leaking 2 days after you replace your timing belt.

Sorry, I don't have any info on the parts you'll need.

[kodiak]

I just did the timing belt on my montaro about 2 months ago. I tried to save money by not doing the water pump too. 1 week later the water pump started leaking. So, yes replacing the WP is a good idea. It will save you a lot of time.

is it common practice to change the water pump at the same time as doing the timing belt?

[iamironman]

nfp,

I bought THIS timing belt and waterpump kit last July when I blew my engine and had it replaced witha used engine. The mechanic threw the labor in with the R&R since the engine was already out and EVERYBODY I talked to said to do the TB change since the price diff between the belt alone and the pump alone is way more cost effective to buy the full kit and do the pump at the same time... and as I watched the mechanic do the pump at the same time, it took him like an extra 15 mins to switch the pump then do the belt.

[newthings]

I am having the timing belt done Monday.
This is what I am replacing:

Tensioner/pulley 89713 62561
Push rod 8973285120
Timing Belt 89713-63210

A/C Idler Pulley 8971783540
Tensioner arm/pulley 8971258601
Serpentine belt (Gatorback) 4060900
Supercharger Belt GTR 4060485

Radiator Hose upper
Radiator Hose lower
New Super aluminum Radiator with fans!
Hose Heater bypass 8-97167694-2
(May not be accessible)
Water pump 8971675540
Water pump gasket included
Post/stud 8971362660

I do not know what "Seals for the cam" is/are, noted in Aussie post
EBAY kit cost a lot less the Isuzu parts.

Roy

[Chopper]

Do the pump and gasket, make sure you replace the tensioner. Don't let anyone talk you out of it, brother Bart

[Ldub]

Do the pump and gasket, make sure you replace the tensioner. Don't let anyone talk you out of it, brother Bart

Good advice...

My two cents is this...any time I replace something that's "deep in" which will most likely entail a bill that's more than 60-70% labor cost(if I weren't doing it myself), I either go with OEM from Merlin, or an aftermarket source, if it's been proven as good or better than OEM...
Never shop for "internals" with price in mind...

[kpaske]

Hey Bart,

Make sure you read the Timing Belt TSB in my gallery - when I did mine I had instructions from two different sources that were both WRONG (including the CD manual) and I screwed up my timing real bad. I finally took it to a shop and it took THEM two tries before they found this info and got it right.

Kyle

[ScottinMA]

Where did you get the parts? From Merlin? And do you recall how much all that cost?

I am having the timing belt done Monday.
This is what I am replacing:

Tensioner/pulley 89713 62561
Push rod 8973285120
Timing Belt 89713-63210

A/C Idler Pulley 8971783540
Tensioner arm/pulley 8971258601
Serpentine belt (Gatorback) 4060900
Supercharger Belt GTR 4060485

Radiator Hose upper
Radiator Hose lower
New Super aluminum Radiator with fans!
Hose Heater bypass 8-97167694-2
(May not be accessible)
Water pump 8971675540
Water pump gasket included
Post/stud 8971362660

I do not know what "Seals for the cam" is/are, noted in Aussie post
EBAY kit cost a lot less the Isuzu parts.

Roy

[nfpgasmask]

I think Merlin does have all these parts. The list adds up fast. I think for everything above (that list sounds about right) it was close to $600.

I will be doing this in the spring as well.

Bart

[ScottinMA]

Bart,

Appreciate the info. I'm planning on a spring makeover as well.

I think Merlin does have all these parts. The list adds up fast. I think for everything above (that list sounds about right) it was close to $600.

I will be doing this in the spring as well.

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

So, going back to this again, I am planning to order up my parts from Merlin soon.

So, now, the question is, to do myself or not to do myself?

How many of you out there have tackled the timing belt change and associated part swaps/maintenance?

I am not afraid of taking my VX down for a week or so, because we have 2 cars now, so that is not a huge problem, but I am more so wondering if this is simply to involved to handle in my own garage. I know the entire front end has to be taken apart, but what about any special tools/etc?

Thanks- Bart

[tom4bren]

Bart,

You should be able to do it yourself. I don't think there are any special tools required. Of course I've never done it on the VX so I could be talking out my arse.

If you do it yourself, one word of advice. When all is put back together, turn the engine by hand first before you hit the starter. When I replaced the timing belt on an old Eclipse for the second time, I figured I had the process down & almost talked myself out of turning the engine by hand. Somehow I had messed up & the timing was waaaay off. If I had hit the starter, the engine would have siezed.

Tom

[etlsport]

also make sure you get the proper TSB for the timing belt change... iirc many have had issues with following the repair manual only to be fixed by following the tsb

[nfpgasmask]

Thanks guys, I think I have all the paperwork I need. So now I just need to order up the parts.

When I do this, I will be sure to photograph the whole process and put together a new how to.

Bart