IRS(not I.R.S.) in VX

[pbkid]

sorry about my last post, i didnt mean to be aggressive towards your idea i just dont understand it...

perhaps you would have an intelligent argument for doing it... in comparison to most of the people who lower suv's and trucks just because everyone else they know does it...

[Bieredalsace]

Do you think those silly Lamborghini doors look good on the VX?
I don't! I'm not suggesting sliding doors so it will look like a van. I am suggetsing them so they will be as unique as the rest of the VX. I saw them on the proposed Mini SUV and they looked awesome. Besides I'll bet 90 % of VX drivers have been caught parked sideways on an angle and trying to operate those heavy doors up against gravitys pull usually leaving a big gash in your leg as gravity takes over and closes the door for you before you get your leg fully in or out of the vehicle.
Now imagine the same off kilter operation with doors that slide open. Pretty cool Huh!? I ain't as krazy as you think.

[Bieredalsace]

Now as far as the IRS unit. I will be honest. I have never seen the rear suspension system of the VX. I only know how hard the vehicle rides. Many many SUV owners never see a bush or mud unless they live near the Cali coast like Malibu. So why not try and find a way to give a sophisticated imaginative unique vehicle a sophisticated ride? No, Rock crawling would be out of the question, but isn't that what chopped up Jeeps are for?
With all this talk about reverse cut pinion gears meshing with ring gears etc it would be easier, less confusing and probably the same cost as dropping in one of those units in Kodiak's note above.

[pbkid]

ya i suppose it depends on your ultimate goal....

i just get really frusterated when i see lowered trucks or SUV's with body kits. the way i figure it, if you want low center of gravity with good handling buy a vehicle designed for that...

thus is why i have 2 vehicles (along with other owners).. one suv that is used for one thing and a sports car for going fast and throwing you left to right without a worry of rolling or having to seriously modify it...

i dunno, i can understand where you are coming from because i love to have a sporty vehicle...however, i think once you see the abilities of the vehicross you will be happier with the way it is than you think...

but ya driving the VX all the time lately has had me itching for something more sporty and wishing i had the money for an STI...

[VX1032]

Sounds like your issue with the VX ride can partailly be attributed to the short wheelbase of the vehicle, not the suspension. Remember, this thing is really short and you are hitting bumps very close together. A different shock package could help with that. How many miles were on the VX you test drove and were they still the original shocks?

[TheGanzman]

Sounds like your issue with the VX ride can partailly be attributed to the short wheelbase of the vehicle, not the suspension. Remember, this thing is really short and you are hitting bumps very close together. A different shock package could help with that. How many miles were on the VX you test drove and were they still the original shocks?

I drove a 16,500 mile pampered '99. Stock shocks and highway (non-aggressive tread pattern) tires. And yes, much of the "issue" with the ride on these IS the short wheelbase. It's also "oversprung/overshocked" for a (primarily freeway-driven) SUV. Ya' can't fix the wheelbase - ya' CAN set up the suspension to be more compliant for highway driving, which I would/will do. I've had really good luck w/variable rate springs on previous vehicles that I've owned; those, combined with some high-end "P" road tires and some good quality shocks will go a long way, IMHO. We're talking well under $2K total for virtually "the best of the best" of those three items...

[Scott Harness]

I'll take your stock shocks,when you throw them away.

[nfpgasmask]

It's also "oversprung/overshocked" for a (primarily freeway-driven) SUV.

I think the above statement clearly points out the "friction" here in this thread. There are a group of people on here who have street VXes, and then there are the offroad VXes.

You all know what category I fall into, and I agree with The Paint Ball Kid. You want a street machine, drive a Subi or a Porsche, you want a compact, short wheel based, 4x4 that loves to be off the pavement but does just fine on the highway, drive a VX.

Again, just my 2 cents worth of opinion.

Bart

[Bieredalsace]

ya i suppose it depends on your ultimate goal....

i just get really frusterated when i see lowered trucks or SUV's with body kits. the way i figure it, if you want low center of gravity with good handling buy a vehicle designed for that...

thus is why i have 2 vehicles (along with other owners).. one suv that is used for one thing and a sports car for going fast and throwing you left to right without a worry of rolling or having to seriously modify it...

i dunno, i can understand where you are coming from because i love to have a sporty vehicle...however, i think once you see the abilities of the vehicross you will be happier with the way it is than you think...

but ya driving the VX all the time lately has had me itching for something more sporty and wishing i had the money for an STI...

pbkid....I agree it would be more desirable to have dedicated vehicles for specific applications....I myself have the VX, a 1998 Ram Air Trans Am, a Cadillac, a new Suzuki Sx4 crossover (which is a really cool but underpowered unit) and I had a Mazda 323 GTX which was a real screaming 4x4. ..........so I guess I have a different vehicle for each driving application .........but the VX is so unique it is a thrill to drive it in the city and on the highway and get so much attention. I've even had people ask if it was a 2010 Isuzu model..and that feels great.
However if you feel the VX is more dedicated to off road operation then isn't it unnecessary overkill for members to add Superchargers? I assume the S/C is for street performance rather than rock crawling.
So the VX has universal applications. And to modify the suspension to give a more comfortable ride while still lookijng awesome gives it the best of almost all applications. IMHO

[nfpgasmask]

...but, in addition to what I said above, I think this spells it out clearly:

THIS:


Makes about as much sense as THIS:


But then again, as many have said, "to each his own".

Bart

[Bieredalsace]

...but, in addition to what I said above, I think this spells it out clearly:

THIS:


Makes about as much sense as THIS:


But then again, as many have said, "to each his own".

Bart

I love that SMART ForFun2, especially towing that big CAT dozer as a spare!

[pbkid]

pbkid....I agree it would be more desirable to have dedicated vehicles for specific applications....I myself have the VX, a 1998 Ram Air Trans Am, a Cadillac, a new Suzuki Sx4 crossover (which is a really cool but underpowered unit) and I had a Mazda 323 GTX which was a real screaming 4x4. ..........so I guess I have a different vehicle for each driving application .........but the VX is so unique it is a thrill to drive it in the city and on the highway and get so much attention. I've even had people ask if it was a 2010 Isuzu model..and that feels great.
However if you feel the VX is more dedicated to off road operation then isn't it unnecessary overkill for members to add Superchargers? I assume the S/C is for street performance rather than rock crawling.
So the VX has universal applications. And to modify the suspension to give a more comfortable ride while still lookijng awesome gives it the best of almost all applications. IMHO

i agree that the stock VX has plenty of power, however, if you ask dub he will easily inform you that his VX really isnt much more powerful then it was stock (with current supercharger)....however with the heavy 33" nitto mud grapplers he's running and probably well over 500lbs in interior addition/modifications, he needs the extra power just to keep it moving...

also, dub is definately towards the wheeling side, but he does use his VX to tow a trailer, so consider the extra weight of that also...

from what i understand this is why he has a supercharger, (well i guess it sounds great and makes it fun to drive also).....

so, i dont know about other people with superchargers but dub does have his for offroad application....(hopefully im not making incorrect assumptions)

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

However if you feel the VX is more dedicated to off road operation then isn't it unnecessary overkill for members to add Superchargers? I assume the S/C is for street performance rather than rock crawling.
So the VX has universal applications. And to modify the suspension to give a more comfortable ride while still lookijng awesome gives it the best of almost all applications. IMHO

For those of us that drive great distances to go off-roading.....the S/C helps with churning those bigger meats along & tends to raise the mpg up while highway driving.

I also tow from time to time and not only enjoy the greater performance but noticed my avg mpg was better towing with S/C than without.

But, you are right about the actual off-roading; the S/C probably adds nothing towards off-road abilities.

Plus, I S/C'ed mine before getting into any off-roading And, my butt-dyno likey!!

[nfpgasmask]

I wish I had an S/C installed! With the 4.77's and an S/C, Zeus would be a riot! Of course, my fantasy is not IRS it is SFA... that could get expensive fast too.

A little bird told me that Ascinder may be starting his SAS soon...but we'll see. I have heard that kinda talk before...*cough*

Bart