Superbowl XLIII Tampa Florida

[Mark B]

Ok, since I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and Tampa is hosting the Superbowl this year, I thought I would start this thread.
Who are you for? Cardinals or Steelers.
I grew up in St. Louis Missouri and have always loved the Cardinals. They played in St. Louis and I went to many games. They moved to Phoenix and I still follow and love the team. Go Kurt Warner.
Cardinals 32 Steelers 28.

[Solitude]

I am in a quandary. I grew up 90 miles north of pittsburgh and have always been a Steelers fan.

And now I live in Phoenix and am in shock. Gotta love the underdog..

Steelers Win so they can have more rings then those freakin Cowboys

Steelers 35 Cardinals 24

[WormGod]

I am still for the Ravens.

[tomdietrying]

I just like the Kurt Warner storey. Go Cards!
Peace.
Tom
012009

[Ldub]

Uhhhhhhhhh...Go VIKES?...

[Triathlete]

The super Bowl is just a prerequisit to giving the STEELERS yet another ring!

[Riff Raff]

We all know it was the "cheating zebra's" that gave the undeserving victory to the Steeler's in SB-40, so that SB ring is tarnished and doesn't count. As punishment, I sincerely hope the Arizona Cardinal's are victorious and send the Steeler's home licking their wounds. Go "CARDINAL's"!!!

[circmand]

If the NFL and Super Bowls were rigged it would come out. This is just sour grapes from people who root for losing teams. Sure the officiating sucked in the game but calls went against noth teams and neither team really played that well.

[circmand]

Reaction to officiating in Super Bowl XL
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The officiating in Super Bowl XL was met with harsh criticism from both the fans and the media soon after the game. Some columnists decried the officiating for costing the Seattle Seahawks the game, while other columnists and the National Football League said the calls were largely correct. Others suggested that the calls would not have made a difference anyway, and that there were also calls that went against the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers won the game, 21-10.

Contents [hide]
1 Initial reaction
2 Calls against the Seahawks
3 Calls against the Steelers
4 References



[edit] Initial reaction
Shortly after the game, Kansas City Star writer Jason Whitlock encapsulated many views when he wrote the day after the game, "Bill Leavy and his crew ruined Super Bowl XL. Am I the only one who would like to hear them defend their incompetence?"[1]

Initially, fans reacted negatively as well. A February 7 online ESPN poll found that, with 103,167 votes cast, 61.7% of voters felt that "officiating mistakes affected the outcome of Super Bowl XL."[2]

Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren himself took issue with the officiating at a celebration for his team on February 6 at Qwest Field, saying, "We knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well."[3]

Others argued that the calls were largely correct. Kevin Blackistone, a columnist with the Dallas Morning News, expressed this view on ESPN's Around the Horn: "The litmus test for this is the fact when you talk to the Seattle Seahawks after the game, they didn't talk about the referees. They talked about problems they had of their own making."[4]

In response to the criticisms leveled at the officials, the NFL, just two days after the game, released a statement defending the officials' performance. "The game was properly officiated, including, as in most NFL games, some tight plays that produced disagreement about the calls made by the officials," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement. [5]

The game ended a playoffs season that was plagued by complaints about officiating, most notably during the divisional playoff games between the Steelers and Colts, the Broncos and Patriots, and the Bears and Panthers.[6]


[edit] Calls against the Seahawks
The following is a list of the most oft-criticized calls that went against the Seahawks:

First Quarter, 2:08 left, score tied 0-0: Seattle quarterback Matt Hasselbeck threw a 16-yard pass that wide receiver Darrell Jackson caught in the end zone, but the play was called back on an offensive pass interference call. Back Judge Bob Waggoner, a Pittsburgh native[7], flagged Jackson for pushing off Steelers safety Chris Hope. Seattle had to settle for a Josh Brown field goal. Critics claimed both Jackson and the defensive player were jostling for position and that officials should not have flagged either player. Michael Smith of ESPN wrote that "Jackson extended his arm, yes, but both players were fighting for position, and he didn't create any separation by doing so."[8] Adding to the controversy was the fact that Waggoner's flag was thrown several seconds after the play ended, which some saw as proof that Hope had lobbied for the call[9].
Second Quarter, 2:00 left, Seahawks lead 3-0: On third down from the Seattle one-yard line, Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger took the snap, faked a handoff, and dove toward the left side of a pile along the goal-line before being hit by Seahawks linebacker D.D. Lewis. He then extended his arm that was holding the ball to the goal line, though it is unclear as to whether the extension was before or after he was officially down. After first raising one hand (as if to indicate that the quarterback was down), head linesman Mark Hittner raised a second arm to signal a touchdown. The play stood after review, to the considerable ire of Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren, who berated Leavy on the way to the locker room following the first half.[10] The play was hotly debated in the media between those who thought the play should have resulted in a fourth-down-and-inches situation[11] and those who thought the ball crossed the goal line.[12] Roethlisberger appeared on the The Late Show with David Letterman the day after the game and told the host that, immediately after the play, he had told Cowher, "I don’t think I got in," but that the team was "ready to go for it on fourth down anyway."[13] He later explained that he was referring to his initial impression only, and believes "the ball crossed the plane."[14]
Fourth Quarter, 12:35 left, Steelers lead 14-10: Hasselbeck completed an 18-yard pass to tight end Jerramy Stevens at the Steelers 1-yard line. The play was nullified by a penalty against Seattle right tackle Sean Locklear for holding Pittsburgh linebacker Clark Haggans. Critics of the call dubbed it a "phantom hold,"[15] but others argued that, since NFL rules prohibit the encircling of a defender with hands or arms (i.e., "hooking") and since Locklear did appear briefly to have an arm around Haggans’ neck, the call was correct and not unusual.[16] In addition, there is a dispute whether Haggans was offsides during the play, but in slow motion, "it looks like he crossed the line right at the snap, not early". [16]
Fourth Quarter, 10:54 left, Steelers lead 14-10: Three plays after the nullified pass to Stevens, Hasselbeck threw an interception to Pittsburgh cornerback Ike Taylor, who returned the ball 24 yards. A 15-yard personal foul was whistled against Hasselbeck for a "low block," advancing the Steelers to their own 44-yard line. During the American television broadcast, commentator Al Michaels said, "We think this was a bad call," suggesting that Hasselbeck was not blocking another Pittsburgh player but was instead making a low tackle on a ball carrier, which is legal. However, NFL Network announcer Rich Eisen in a column he wrote for nfl.com claims it was the right call by the rules, even if the rule itself may be defective.[17] Mike Pereira, the Director of Officiating for the NFL, has said that "the call was not correct" and "should not have been made."[18]
Fourth Quarter, 4:45 left, Steelers lead 21-10: With the Steelers' hoping to convert a first down on third-and-six in order to take more time off the clock, Roethlisberger was forced to call a timeout when Pittsburgh had difficulty getting a play off as the play clock ran down. The Steelers were awarded a timeout, but some contended that the play clock hit zero seconds before Roethlisberger called for a timeout, which would have constituted a delay-of-game and resulted in a five-yard penalty against Pittsburgh.[19]

[edit] Calls against the Steelers
Although the negative media reaction against the officials was largely due to calls that did not go the Seahawks way, others suggested that there were calls that didn't go the Steelers' way. Gregg Easterbrook of NFL.com wrote:

Four of the six big officiating decisions went against Seattle. Does this mean a pro-Steelers bias, as some in the sports yak world are saying, or perhaps a slap at Mike Holmgren by the officiating guild? ... The two decisions that favored the Hawks were the fourth-quarter replay reversal that gave possession, initially awarded to Pittsburgh, back to Seattle; and the no-call of a block in the back by Seattle during Kelly Herndon's record interception return. Of the four big decisions that favored the Steelers, two seemed correct to me.[20]
Pittsburgh was not called for any penalties during the second half while Seattle had three, including two of the disputed calls mentioned above.[21]

[Riff Raff]

VXR; well said, thanks for putting CIRCMAND in his proper place!!! As was stated earlier; the Steeler's did not deserve to win SB-40, as it was totally "rigged" by the cheating zebra's. It was probably one of the worst officiated games in all of NFL history; and undoubtedly, "THE WORST" Officiated "Super Bowl" ever in NFL history!!!

We; devoted Seattle Seahawk fans, will never ever forget how we were cheated out of that SB-40 victory. All of us Seattle Seahawk fans are totally rootin' for the Arizona Cardinal's to kick the Steeler's @ss in this year's SB as part pay-back for that unworthy victory of SB-40.

May the Steeler's highest honor this year remain only as AFC Champions (and as this year's SB loser's)!!! Go "CARDINAL's"!!!

[circmand]

stating the calls upon review were correct and that the 4 most questionable calls went 2 against each team put me in my place? The whole article must be read otherwise you may jump to conclusions that are incorrect. I understand 2 birds being against it Ravens and Seahawks but I forgive them because I know they are just upset they got beaten by a better team. Though I have to admit had the Ravens been healthy it may have been a different game. But as for SB 40 officiating aside the Seahawks played very poorly.

[Triathlete]

So, what does anything that the REF's did in SB40 have to do with the Steelers team that is going to win the SB this year. The Steelers simply played the game they didn't make the calls. Blame the officials not the teams. Bad calls happen all the time...its not the teams fault.

[circmand]

Kevin Blackistone, a columnist with the Dallas Morning News, expressed this view on ESPN's Around the Horn: "The litmus test for this is the fact when you talk to the Seattle Seahawks after the game, they didn't talk about the referees. They talked about problems they had of their own making."[4]

In response to the criticisms leveled at the officials, the NFL, just two days after the game, released a statement defending the officials' performance. "The game was properly officiated, including, as in most NFL games, some tight plays that produced disagreement about the calls made by the officials," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement. [5]

[VXR]

Kevin Blackistone, a columnist with the Dallas Morning News, expressed this view on ESPN's Around the Horn: "The litmus test for this is the fact when you talk to the Seattle Seahawks after the game, they didn't talk about the referees. They talked about problems they had of their own making."[4]

one guys opinion

In response to the criticisms leveled at the officials, the NFL, just two days after the game, released a statement defending the officials' performance. "The game was properly officiated, including, as in most NFL games, some tight plays that produced disagreement about the calls made by the officials," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement. [5]

really an NFL spokesman really what did you expect them to say???

OK I will help you. Here is a poll ESPN did. Notice the amount of people who voted. A few more opinions than your two guys (one of whom did not give his opinion on the calls themselves and the other who said only two were bad). oh ya and the NFL guy

Do you think officiating mistakes affected the outcome of Super Bowl XL? (103,167 votes)
61.7% Yes
38.2% No

Which played the biggest role in determining the outcome of the game? (118,130 votes)
57.5% Officials missing calls
28.3% Seahawks not making plays
14.2% Steelers making plays

What grade would you give referee Bill Leavy's officiating crew for Super Bowl XL? (118,130 votes)
50.6% F
24.8% D
13.9% C
8.8% B
1.9% A

Do you think the official made the right call on Darrell Jackson's offensive pass interference in the endzone, negating a Seattle touchdown in the first quarter? (118,130 votes)
73.8% No
20.5% Yes
5.7% I'm not sure

Do you think the football broke the plane of the goal line on Ben Roethlisberger's touchdown run in the second quarter? (118,130 votes)
59.3% No
25.9% Yes
14.8% I'm not sure

Do you think the official made the right call on Sean Locklear's holding penalty in the fourth quarter, negating an 18-yard reception to the one-yard line by Jerramy Stevens? (118,130 votes)
74.3% No
15.3% Yes
10.4% I'm not sure

[Triathlete]

You are right it is not the Steelers fault that two refs born and raised in Pittsburgh called the game. Maybe they were 49er fans growing up.

So, the Steelers hired the refs?