CarSystem Refinish Restorer

[VX KAT]

Hey sue can you tell me where did you bought the kit ?

I'm interested doing the same application with my cladding.

Here ya go Gussie!
http://yhst-13811118617756.stores.ya.../carere1l.html

I think this is the only place any of us have found to buy this stuff. If I could find a place to get a secure metal canister that wouldn't leak I'd be able to sell you half of mine. Like I said I used maybe 5 oz of the 33+ oz in can. I'm going to do some of Dave's trim on the FJ, but still I'll NEVER use all this stuff. This can came with a seal inside the top (like the kind on milk cartons now with the pull tab ring). Want me to look into seeing if I can find an appropriate type of can to ship it in?

[Petos]

Hi, folks, I applied R/R on my VX last week-end and made a bad mistake... applied with a brush, and decided to take a break before wiping off the excess... unfortunately, a football game was on tv and l lost control of the time... when I came back, it turned out R/R already dried up and it was impossible to wipe it off... and now I have ugly streaks all over my plastic, which also collected some dust and do look awful...
any suggestions on how to deal with this will be very much appreciated!

[Ldub]

Hi, folks, I applied R/R on my VX last week-end and made a bad mistake... applied with a brush, and decided to take a break before wiping off the excess... unfortunately, a football game was on tv and l lost control of the time... when I came back, it turned out R/R already dried up and it was impossible to wipe it off... and now I have ugly streaks all over my plastic, which also collected some dust and do look awful...
any suggestions on how to deal with this will be very much appreciated!

In an area that is least noticable, try re-applying a fresh coat with a sponge or wax applicator.
You might get lucky, & find that the restorer, in liquid form, MAY dissolve the dried stuff & even out the appearance...
I have no experience with this stuff, so it's a WAG on my part...

[Riff Raff]

PETOS--- Refinish Restorer turns into a varnish-like hard coating very simular to varnished wood furniture if not buffed-off within 10 minutes (per instructions) after application.

Excess build-up can be removed with a "terpintine substitute" per the manufacturer's instructions. Basically, use paint thinner on a rag and lots and lots of elbow grease to get it off. Be sure and wear a face mask or enjoy getting high off the paint thinner fumes.

For the official manufacturer's instructions, please do a "search" for specific thread entitled: "Alternative To Gatorback - Faded Cladding Solutions"

Once at the thread, then scroll-down and look at Posting #30

In addition, a printable "PDF" file is also available by clicking on the "link" in Posting #30

[vt_maverick]

Excess build-up can be removed with a "terpintine substitute" per the manufacturer's instructions. Basically, use paint thinner on a rag and lots and lots of elbow grease to get it off. Be sure and wear a face mask or enjoy getting high off the paint thinner fumes.

Yikes! I don't know if I would try that with the cladding still on the vehicle... can't imagine what paint thinner would do to the paint if you slipped.

[VX KAT]

I ended up putting on too thin of a coat the first time last June because I used a soaked rag, and since then, the front bumper has had some slight flaking off I believe from wind and abrasion.

So I hit it yesterday cuz it hit 68 degrees, the min. for working with this stuff. I used a foam brush which worked much better and it looks great. I actually applied it generously, then brushed and brushed to keep it from slowly dripping. After about 7-8 mins it gets thicker and it stops dripping and the brush strokes disappear for a nice even, satin finish. Doesn't really darken the cladding (unfortunately) or cover up any discolorations but it sure makes it look brand new otherwise.

This hard coating will last for years now I believe....and there's still at least 8 or 9 applications remaining in the can.

[vt_maverick]

...Doesn't really darken the cladding (unfortunately) or cover up any discolorations but it sure makes it look brand new otherwise...

The more I read on this stuff the more I'm inclined to think its only advantage is that you don't have to apply it very often. My cladding was terribly faded last fall before I did my first coat of Back to Black, and in one detail it was tremendously darker. A few months ago I accidentally stained a large section of the cladding below the gas cap, but the next coat of B2B made it completely disappear. Even when I neglected the B2B for a couple of months, the stain still never came back.

In my mind B2B is simply a better product, IF you can tolerate applying it every 2-4 weeks.

[VX KAT]

The more I read on this stuff the more I'm inclined to think its only advantage is that you don't have to apply it very often. My cladding was terribly faded last fall before I did my first coat of Back to Black, and in one detail it was tremendously darker. A few months ago I accidentally stained a large section of the cladding below the gas cap, but the next coat of B2B made it completely disappear. Even when I neglected the B2B for a couple of months, the stain still never came back.

In my mind B2B is simply a better product, IF you can tolerate applying it every 2-4 weeks.

They're really two different animals, as R/R is a permanent hard coating (that says it penetrates the plastic), not a treatment. My front had some areas that flaked off as I mentioned from abrasion from airborne stuff, but everywhere else was fine. I just didn't apply it correctly first time. I'll never have to do it again now.

Wish I'd tried the B2B on my gasoline stain last year. I can see where that kind of product could kind of dissolve the gasoline. Now mine's covered with R/R so nothing will penetrate...so my "gas tat" stays.

[Grif]

Hi, folks, I applied R/R on my VX last week-end and made a bad mistake... applied with a brush, and decided to take a break before wiping off the excess... unfortunately, a football game was on tv and l lost control of the time... when I came back, it turned out R/R already dried up and it was impossible to wipe it off... and now I have ugly streaks all over my plastic, which also collected some dust and do look awful...
any suggestions on how to deal with this will be very much appreciated!

I would try a heavy coat to loosen up the existing application, let sit 5 mins MAXIMUM, and wipe off the excess with a microfiber cloth. I used the kind of microfiber cloths designed for cleaning windows and camera lenses. Not the fuzzy kind, use the with a real smooth very tight weave, almost like satin. You will ruin your expensive cloth, but additional lint sticking to the cladding will not be an issue. Hopefully it will take off the accumulated dust too. After your heavy coat to try to work out the errant dust etc... try a couple more VERY light coats one coat later that night, and one the next day to completely work out he swirls and streaks. I'm not an expert with this stuff, but have used it enough to get a feel for its qualities.

[Petos]

Cheers, guys... I will give it a shot (apply another coat and whipe it off hoping that it will loosen up the existing excess), and post on the result.. thanks again
Petos

[Riff Raff]

PETOS--- Any results yet on getting the varnish-like goo off the cladding???

[Chopper]

Pressure washer will blow it off. Turps will clean it up fully. The power wand at a carwash blew some off an Avalanche I did for a customer...Try the PW

[Petos]

PETOS--- Any results yet on getting the varnish-like goo off the cladding???

Sorry, fellows, forgot to post a reply... well, I went with the suggested route of reapplying RR and then rubbing hard trying to get rid of the earlier stuff... well, I had limited success, I would say, looks better now, I guess the good old Russian winter will help to make the goo go off
also, I suspect that the previous owner actually painted the cladding (really hard to see but i think he did do that), so application of RR maybe was not a good idea in the first place.. maybe it is the reason why it did not work well when I applied it the fist time...