DONE!! '02 AXIOM engine switch works!!

[iamironman]

(I hope it's ok with everyone to start a new thread for the completion)

ALL done and it runs GREAT!!

Spent two days trying to get the AXIOM intake to work with the VX ECM but alas, kept throwing so many codes had to splice into wires... was a nightmare... no go... Spent several hours trying to get the Axiom ECM to work with the the whole VX, but different connectors and the TOD wouldn't work either so absolutely no go... so I guess I'm getting the 215 HP as the Axiom had 230 HP but I think, if I've researched right, it's because of the intake that it had 230. The VX intake bolted right up to the Axiom engine... no difference there. It runs awesome... seems way faster off the line... All in all... problem solved, dispute (if any) solved, hopefully oil consumption problem solved. I'll be keeping my eye on the oil... and let y'all know if there's any problems... if anyone blows a VX engine... go get a used '02 Axiom engine to replace it!! they can be had from about $1200 up to $2500... I got lucky and paid $500 for mine... but after all incidentals, fluids, gaskets, yada,yada, cost me $1100. R&R of engine(s): $1600 (paid for the extra time to work with the ECM's seperately so that doesn't count for the R&R)

[iamironman]

One other thing... I buried the needle this evening... and after I hit 100mph, the TOD showed all lights on... like I was doing 4 wheel drive at WELL over 100 MPH...


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[pbkid]

One other thing... I buried the needle this evening... and after I hit 100mph, the TOD showed all lights on... like I was doing 4 wheel drive at WELL over 100 MPH...


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

shouldnt you break it in before you bury the needle??

great news though!!!

[Ldub]

GOOD ON YOU, IAMIRONMAN!...

Congrats on being the first!.........

Do tell...with the Ax being DI, is it no longer direct injected, because you used the stock intake? Since the injectors are an integral part of the stock intake?
Inquiring minds wanna know...

[iamironman]

Interesting! So you have an Axiom motor with a VX intake and ECM, correct? Would love to hear about some mileage readings when you get time!

Will post them as soon as available!

Nicely done! Yeah, the Axiom ECU is very different. Doesn’t the Axiom have an electronic throttle that the ECU controls? That’s probably why you were having trouble with the Axiom intake.

Again, Very cool!

That was probably most of the trouble.

shouldnt you break it in before you bury the needle??

great news though!!!

It's a used engine...from a wrecked Axiom with 55k or maybe a little more... don't remember exactly, But I believe it's broke in already, lol.

Oh man that's good,good news,as i always thought the axiom engine can work,of course the ECU & the axiom TOD is unmatcheable but the engine it self is 100% compatible.

Congrats on the good job

Thanks Gussie... keep the faith!!

GOOD ON YOU, IAMIRONMAN!...

Congrats on being the first!.........

Do tell...with the Ax being DI, is it no longer direct injected, because you used the stock intake? Since the injectors are an integral part of the stock intake?
Inquiring minds wanna know...

Thanks LDub.
Yes, it is no longer direct injected...
Ok... Bottom line... it's the whole topside of the VX engine on the Axiom block and heads... intake, TB, just about everything from the heads up to the underside of the hood... I even had to use the valve covers from the VX engine, as the Axiom valve covers were shaped just slightly different and stuff wouldn't fit with the Axiom valve covers on.

[Ldub]

Thanks LDub.
Yes, it is no longer direct injected...
Ok... Bottom line... it's the whole topside of the VX engine on the Axiom block and heads... intake, TB, just about everything from the heads up to the underside of the hood... I even had to use the valve covers from the VX engine, as the Axiom valve covers were shaped just slightly different and stuff wouldn't fit with the Axiom valve covers on.

OK, was a bit curious...that'll certainly have an effect on HP & mileage...but still, this should be a sweet setup!

What you gonna do with the old ticker?

[WormGod]

Yes, it is no longer direct injected...
Ok... Bottom line... it's the whole topside of the VX engine on the Axiom block and heads... intake, TB, just about everything from the heads up to the underside of the hood... I even had to use the valve covers from the VX engine, as the Axiom valve covers were shaped just slightly different and stuff wouldn't fit with the Axiom valve covers on.

Aye, tis the rub! That right there would have been the nail in the coffin were it my project, heh. Seems like any and all advantages (aside from cheaper price) would be flushed. Good job though. Glad to see someone finally came through with a swap of ANY kind.

[nfpgasmask]

Sounds awesome, but wait, everything is running, but you are saying the ECM and TOD don't work at all now or did you figure it out?

Very cool news. Can you post pics of what it looks like under your hood now?

Bart

[iamironman]

Sounds awesome, but wait, everything is running, but you are saying the ECM and TOD don't work at all now or did you figure it out?

Very cool news. Can you post pics of what it looks like under your hood now?

Bart

No, the VX ECM would not work with the AXIOM intake, multitude of problems... it works fine with the VX intake... and TOD would not work with the AXIOM ECM, but hardly anything else would work either, it would start up with the AXIOM ECM but as soon as you hit the throttle it would choke sputter and stall then you couldn't restart it unless you disconnected the battery and reset the ECM.

I'll post pics soon.

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[jdm monkey]

Thats awesome! got pics/vids?

[Gussie2000]

(I hope it's ok with everyone to start a new thread for the completion)

ALL done and it runs GREAT!!

Spent two days trying to get the AXIOM intake to work with the VX ECM but alas, kept throwing so many codes had to splice into wires... was a nightmare... no go... Spent several hours trying to get the Axiom ECM to work with the the whole VX, but different connectors and the TOD wouldn't work either so absolutely no go... so I guess I'm getting the 215 HP as the Axiom had 230 HP but I think, if I've researched right, it's because of the intake that it had 230. The VX intake bolted right up to the Axiom engine... no difference there. It runs awesome... seems way faster off the line... All in all... problem solved, dispute (if any) solved, hopefully oil consumption problem solved. I'll be keeping my eye on the oil... and let y'all know if there's any problems... if anyone blows a VX engine... go get a used '02 Axiom engine to replace it!! they can be had from about $1200 up to $2500... I got lucky and paid $500 for mine... but after all incidentals, fluids, gaskets, yada,yada, cost me $1100. R&R of engine(s): $1600 (paid for the extra time to work with the ECM's seperately so that doesn't count for the R&R)

Oh man that's good,good news,as i always thought the axiom engine can work,of course the ECU & the axiom TOD is unmatcheable but the engine it self is 100% compatible.

Congrats on the good job

[ZEUS]

Interesting! So you have an Axiom motor with a VX intake and ECM, correct? Would love to hear about some mileage readings when you get time!

[deermagnet]

Very Nice!!! You got a rock solid engine at an UNBEATABLE price.

Mark

[kodiak]

Nicely done! Yeah, the Axiom ECU is very different. Doesn’t the Axiom have an electronic throttle that the ECU controls? That’s probably why you were having trouble with the Axiom intake.

Again, Very cool!

[ZubrAZ]

I got a rod knock I'm pretty sure i do. going to bring the car to mechanic tomorrow to confirm. I found trooper's engine for $1,700 and labor was quoted as $1,000. plus something else that comes up at such works - i'm looking at $3,000. most likely i will not be able to afford such an expense. even the engine itself... but if i'll come up with money for the engine, isnt it pretty straight-forward procedure? i do realize it is time-consuming, requires special tooling, engine lift, etc, but what are the hardstops i can face while replacing the engine? i shall highly appreciate any inputs. and im very interested in axiom engine in particular. i'm trying to brainstorm the procedure and seeing that beside the engine i shall need numerous gaskets, something tells me i shall be needing new bolts, if im going to deal with the VX intake on the top of axiom engine...

is there anybody insterested in 1999 Ebony with 111k miles on a body? nice 17" rims with yoko geo is the only mod. that is my worst case scenario, and i have a week to make a decision