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    Any of you guys carry?

    I have been look at handguns lately. I have been looking at a few Sig Sauers; p220 .45, p226 .40, p239 .40 SAS. what do you guys think and what do you shot?

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    i was gonna get concealed permit this year, but then i thought about it and im gonna be in some type of law enforcement by next year, so ill get the concealed permit without having to pay extra for it...so i just figured i would wait till then...
    oh, and i dont know much about guns, just that ill make a good officer...sorry no input on what to buy
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    For concealed carry, it boils down to a lot of personal preference. How big or small are your hands? Do you like revolvers or semi-autos(sounds like semis)? Do you prefer single action(SA), double action(DA), or SA/DA?Is the gun going to be comfortable to wear for up to 8 hours at a time? What are your plans for summer when it's hot and you are likely wearing shorts and a T-shirt? Do you like to carry inside the waistband(IWB), ankle, belt, pocket, jacket, etc. How accurate are you with said gun? A well placed shot with a .22 does more damage than a miss with a .45.(But not by much). Are you trying to wound someone to get away or kill someone so they don't sue you later? The general rule is to carry the largest caliber you feel comfortable with. Do you live in an area where you will likely be up against someone packing also, where it could develop into a gunfight so ammo capacity is a consideration? Start answering questions like these for yourself and you will start really narrowing things down. I don't know if you're familiar with the 21 foot rule or not, but it simply states that when someone carrying a knife comes within 21 feet of you and you have a concealed pistol, you are pretty much dead before you can fully draw. We practiced this many times in my concealed weapons class, and the knife won every time. My point is to learn to shoot mainly at 20ft. or better since you are screwed otherwise. I personally now carry an EAA Witness Elite Match in 10MM, it is a 15+1 single action. Do some research on that round. It's very nasty (pretty much a .40 cal magnum). EAA makes a model called a P carry in 10MM. The nice thing about the Witness line, is that you can change calibers simply by swapping out the slide. They have conversion kits that are ~$200 each in the following calibers: 10MM, .45, .40, .38 super, .357 SIG(custom), 9MM, .380, and .22 LR. I also recommend looking into a thing called Clipdraw. It's like a knife clip for your gun. Mine weighs about 2-1/4 pounds, and the clipdraw holds it fine. I carry in a cargo pocket since I always wear either cargo pants or cargo shorts. The advantages are that you can reach it from a seated or standing position which is nice. It is also fairly subtle since the cargo pocket is naturally baggy anyways. I do recommend a pad between the gun and your knee or you'll be sorry.
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    WISDOM--- Yes, I carry a handgun in my right-rear pants pocket everyday. In case I'm ever robbed, I'll just say-- "Don't shoot, I'm just gonna' reach for my wallet." Then it's surprize time on him. I practice a mock scenario daily so I'm always trained and prepared should this ever happen to me.

    My daily carry gun is an AMT Back-Up in .380 caliber, fully loaded with Black-Talon ammunition. The .380 caliber is essentially the same as a 9mm, except with a short stubby casing. The .380 caliber is truly a manstopper at close range. However, the .380 caliber is the very smallest caliber I would ever consider to carry for personal protection. The AMT .380 Back-Up is extremely compact and undetectable in my rear pants pocket, even when wearing a tucked-in shirt and no jacket. People only see a slight buldge in my rear pants pocket and naturally assume it's a fat wallet.

    If I was ever going to replace it with an alternate weapon; it would be the Para-Ordnance "Wart Hog" sub-compact .45 ACP. This is the world's smallest .45 ACP with a high capacity magazine which is double-staggered. What I like about the .45 ACP round is that it makes a big hole going in, and a bigger hole going out!!! Personally; I like very big calibers in very small packages with very high capacity, and the Para-Ordnance "Wart Hog" .45 ACP sub-compact meets that criteria unlike any other handgun in the world, period.

    The other self defense weapon I carry is the Kimber - Guardian Angel Pepper Blaster. This is a super lightweight Pepper Spray Blaster that clips to your trouser belt and shoots Pepper Spray out at over 90 MPH with a two-shot capacity.

    I own a Tavern, and have had to use it once already on an unruly bar patron who got outta' hand. He was 6'4" and 260 lbs. It dropped him like a sack of potatoes to the floor, totally rendering him harmless as he whimpered and screamed "I can't see, I can't see!!!" My bouncer's merely picked him up and guided him out the front door like a blind man where he lied in the middle of the parking lot crying and covering his eyes. Priceless.

    The other weapon I use in my Tavern is a Police Model M-26 Taser with bright yellow striping and built-in Laser Sight. Over the past 10 years I've Tasered a total of 6 people for various disturbances. 100% success rating, regardless of physical build. A very effective, and extremely intimidating weapon; especially with the bright red Laser Sight activated in a dark dim-lit tavern environment. The sheer sight of it will immediately calm down an unruly tavern crowd in a matter of seconds. However, the Taser is the exact same size as a full-sized Glock handgun and just way too big to carry, so it remains behind the bar counter until absolutely needed. That's why the Kimber - Guardian Angel Pepper Blaster is my #1 choice for a non-lethal weapon to carry daily on my trouser belt.

    I'm so impressed with the Kimber - Guardian Angel, that I now carry two(2) units; one belt-clipped on each hip (left & right) like "Billy The Kid", giving me a total of four(4) Pepper Blaster Shots. Most people think it's some sort of pager or blackberry when clipped to the trouser belt. This item is available from CABELA's for only about $40 each and is very, very wicked. Small, lightweight, and extremely effective while being a non-lethal weapon. Highly recommended, and perfect for both men & women.

    Thus, between my twin Kimber - Guardian Angel's on each hip and my AMT .380 Back-Up with Black Talon's in my rear pants pocket; I'm totally armed to the teeth and nobody knows the wiser. I always wear a tucked-in shirt without a jacket and cover-up nothing. Riff Raff

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    I'm very ANTI GUNS...


    ...it's the British thang in me.


    ""Our Cops dont carry weapons""...and the 'killed by guns" % is WAY below the US stats.


    Look at the figures...look at the "accidental"' shootings.

    Yea Yea..I know.."the right to bear arms"....


    ..but it leads to escalation of harm........



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    I have a concealed weapon permit ,but the gun I have now is to big to carry. It is a ruger 44 magnum single action revolver. It was my dads pistol.I personally like the Glock G19 9mm I used to have in Fl. If I had to choose right now I would choose the G26 "Baby" Glock 9mm. shawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychos2 View Post
    I have a concealed weapon permit ,but the gun I have now is to big to carry. It is a ruger 44 magnum single action revolver. It was my dads pistol.I personally like the Glock G19 9mm I used to have in Fl. If I had to choose right now I would choose the G26 "Baby" Glock 9mm. shawn
    I'll have to agree with Shawn, I'll be a Glock fanboy till' they pry my cold dead fingers from it's empty, & still smoking frame...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    I'll have to agree with Shawn, I'll be a Glock fanboy till' they pry my cold dead fingers from it's empty, & still smoking frame...

    I would have sworn that Larry's response would be about "carrying", not packing. As in, "Hey Dude! Are you carrying?" Learn something new everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    I'll have to agree with Shawn, I'll be a Glock fanboy till' they pry my cold dead fingers from it's empty, & still smoking frame...
    You forgot to add a descriptor in there... it should be: "from it's empty, JAMMED, and still-smoking frame..."

    Yeah, I know what I just started. But I don't think much of Glocks. Whether it's at the range or in the news (like the guy who just shot the priest at the church) when I hear of a pistol jamming, it's almost always a Glock. Notice how most po-po depts don't use them anymore?

    I'm a Heckler & Koch man, myself. I have an H&K USP .40 compact. A good carry pistol, but I don't carry. Buy quality if you're going to rely on a pistol for your safety.

    Riff Raff's advice seems very solid to me, but his needs are different than most people's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoFotoz View Post
    Go watch a very profound movie called .."Green Street Hooligans"...
    That is an awesome movie. A must see.

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    I had a 220 years ago. (similar to below)



    When I moved my condo assoc. had an HOA clause that would not permit renters to have guns of any kind on the property. I sold it and have been weaponless since (2004). I would like to get another as using friend's handguns and renting at the range has become tiresome.

    MD legal dictates you can NOT carry a weapon, but there are a few ways to get a permit to. It's actually isn't too difficult but it is a lengthy process.

    When it comes to weapons and regulations, I follow the rules/laws to a "T" so's not to mess it up for everyone else. I wish more would do the same. Though, when you look at the broad picture, those that mes sit up for us tend to be committing crimes with weapons that aren't even registered to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiSDoM View Post
    I have been look at handguns lately. I have been looking at a few Sig Sauers; p220 .45, p226 .40, p239 .40 SAS. what do you guys think and what do you shot?
    I love my Walther PPK .380 .. has enough snap to it to make it a fun shoot. Quite accurate. Yea it's not a 9mm or .40 or .45 ... but in a pinch im sure the CorBon or HydraShock will do their job

    Just renewed my carry permit for PA ... but I rarely ever carry.. I have a pocket holster that fits inside my front jeans pocket nicely...
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