Well Marlin, Map Quest says 3hrs. 50 minutes, but I have a 1 hour bladder so make it 4:15, Hey, I'm old.

For sure I need to attend Todd's 4x4 class. I did the sand trap last month with the Baxman out of Seattle and made a mess of it, but what a blast, so want all the learning I can get. last time before the sand trap was like, 1963, riding shotgun in a 48 willies, for young'in's that is the jeep that was in WWII! And if nothing else, would like to buy a belated birthday drink for Kodiak. Enough of this cyber birthday toast crap. We should be in salt town about 1'ish, please do give the motel a call, both of ya. Love to met up, have a drink, make some plans. PM if you want cell phone number