Supercharger

[Robbomaz]

Hi folks!
Don't have a VX, unfortunately the cute little critters have never been available Downunder - do they even come in RHD? I have a Jackaroo (Trooper) chassis wearing a four door P'up body........
Anyway, I noticed some interest in supercharging - those with 3.5s heads up! I have made contact with the South Africans responsible for the Alpine Sports supercharger kits - they stopped making them because the exchange rates made the SC's themselves uneconomical. They have offered tech assistance and manufacture of small parts What is spurring this is this: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170322053311

We are looking at making parts to suit this SC on the 6VE1. I am hesitant to call them 'kits' per se, as you will need to have some DIY skills & input, but we are looking at supplying all the machined parts required, and support, so that someone who knows how to use a spanner will be able to do this.
We are doing this on 3 6VE1 vehicles here, and can make as many parts as there are people interested.
If interested reply here or PM me :bwgr:
Rob

[Petos]

Rob:

I can tell you one thing - depending on the price of the equipment, you can count on AT LEAST 3 orders from Russia, and, if the price is right, this number will be significantly higher. We can arrange shipping, we've done that before

Please keep us posted as soon as you have more detail!

thanks
Petr

p.s. FYI - the split between RHD and LHD Vehicrosses in Russia is approx. 50/50, and we used the same alpine kit to supercharge both 3.5L LHD and 3.2L LHD

[Robbomaz]

Rob:

I can tell you one thing - depending on the price of the equipment, you can count on AT LEAST 3 orders from Russia, and, if the price is right, this number will be significantly higher. We can arrange shipping, we've done that before

Please keep us posted as soon as you have more detail!

thanks
Petr

p.s. FYI - the split between RHD and LHD Vehicrosses in Russia is approx. 50/50, and we used the same alpine kit to supercharge both 3.5L LHD and 3.2L LHD

Petr
First let me point out that we are not doing this for profit as such, it is a sideline project of 3 Soozoo driving workshop owners
Here is where we are so far.
We have bought 4 superchargers from the EBay sale (link in previous). We have 3 6VE1's to do here - one is for a Range Rover.
We are currently negotiating the price of the manifold. Alpine in SA want to make the manifolds for us, but want a minimum run of 10. Cost around AUD 600 each - but we don't have enough $ to buy 10 and hope they sell.
I have an Australian vendor that does not have a minimum run who is quoting, I think it will be around the AUD1000 mark. If I can get 10 serious deposits, that is 7 more, we will go for the SA solution.
We are not planning on supplying the supercharger, although we can help people get them. The manifold is designed around the generic M90/MP90 unit, which is an amazing bargain on Ebay at the moment!
Manifold & SC are the biggest $ value.

We will be sourcing/making bracketry, fuel rails and all other pieces over the course of the next few months. Most of this stuff falls into the AUD$ 100-300 range

We were not thinking of marketing a kit at this early stage, more doing this in the 'accumulation of parts' way: Getting the manifold, getting the SC, mounting the SC, working out the ancilliaries & making them as we go. Anyone who joins us we simply make an extra part for as we manufacture.

I envisage the cost WITHOUT the SC to be around AUD $2000-2500, add that USD275 SC and you have a bargain basement price installation!

Will keep everyone posted

Rob

[Petos]

Rob:
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Here in Russia, we had several attempts to do similar projects, but manifold has always been a hitch!

i will disseminate the news among Russian Vehicross / Isuzu enthusiasts and will come back to you with the result..

Thanks
Petr

[johnnyapollo]

The SC that shipped from Alpine was an MP62. I'm not sure about the differences but I can tell from the photo in the eBay ad that the drive (*nose) is considerably longer. I have one of the earlier cast drives (later units shipped with a billet aluminum drive) and the bearings are shot - I'm looking to get it rebuilt now. I know from some threads on here that the Alpine configuration on the drive is less than ideal - you might want to research it a bit as several have had their units rebuilt.

I'm thinking about porting the manifold before putting it back on - the whole kit has been sitting in a box since the middle of last year - fortunatly I had an extra complete manifold (from a Trooper) that I used to swap out so I didn't have to deal with the o-rings and fuel rails - just left them on the kit manifold.

-- John

[Robbomaz]

The SC that shipped from Alpine was an MP92. I'm not sure about the differences but I can tell from the photo in the eBay ad that the drive (*nose) is considerably longer. I have one of the earlier cast drives (later units shipped with a billet aluminum drive) and the bearings are shot - I'm looking to get it rebuilt now. I know from some threads on here that the Alpine configuration on the drive is less than ideal - you might want to research it a bit as several have had their units rebuilt.

I'm thinking about porting the manifold before putting it back on - the whole kit has been sitting in a box since the middle of last year - fortunatly I had an extra complete manifold (from a Trooper) that I used to swap out so I didn't have to deal with the o-rings and fuel rails - just left them on the kit manifold.

-- John

Thanks for that John. Good to hear of problems with the Alpine system. Keep the complaints coming folks

Agreed good snout support is vital for longevity of the drive
We are looking at how the V8 boys support the snout on the big blowers, and the sort of maintenance they get, and I am talking to a firm here in OZ that uses MP90 on Isuzu 3.5's in aircraft. Can't just pull over if you have a failure.....
The vehicles we are doing here are taking us to very remote locations on so very rough roads so reliability is paramount - last year one guy made an 1100 mile round trip to civilisation & back when a wheel bearing on a vehicle failed on the Canning Stock Route The driver of the broken car got to camp in Nowhere, AUS for a week - possible to get a VERY long way from anything at all in this place!
Rob

[SaltLakeVehi]

I am definately interested Robbomaz

[johnny010]

Interested in turn key

[Gussie2000]

Hi folks!
Don't have a VX, unfortunately the cute little critters have never been available Downunder - do they even come in RHD? I have a Jackaroo (Trooper) chassis wearing a four door P'up body........
Anyway, I noticed some interest in supercharging - those with 3.5s heads up! I have made contact with the South Africans responsible for the Alpine Sports supercharger kits - they stopped making them because the exchange rates made the SC's themselves uneconomical. They have offered tech assistance and manufacture of small parts What is spurring this is this: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170322053311

We are looking at making parts to suit this SC on the 6VE1. I am hesitant to call them 'kits' per se, as you will need to have some DIY skills & input, but we are looking at supplying all the machined parts required, and support, so that someone who knows how to use a spanner will be able to do this.
We are doing this on 3 6VE1 vehicles here, and can make as many parts as there are people interested.
If interested reply here or PM me :bwgr:
Rob

Hi robbo i'm a bit confused here,the original manifold is a M62 1rst generation,but the one offered on ebay.com is a M90 4th generation.

I assumed the M90 has more power since it's a 4th generation design & i also recall reading from tone monday that any further S/C generation can place at risk blowing the trans which according to records by GM is capable of pushing up to 285 pounds-per square feet.

I guess the nose pulley may make the difference here isn't it ?

[Ldub]

Hi robbo i'm a bit confused here,the original manifold is a M62 1rst generation,but the one offered on ebay.com is a M90 4th generation.

I assumed the M90 has more power since it's a 4th generation design & i also recall reading from tone monday that any further S/C generation can place at risk blowing the trans which according to records by GM is capable of pushing up to 285 pounds-per square feet.

I guess the nose pulley may make the difference here isn't it ?

Re-read posts 12 & 13...

[Gussie2000]

Re-read posts 12 & 13...

Got more cunfused

What is blowing my mind here is that the M-90 is bigger,wonder if mods are needed on the hood to fit the manifold.

Then which nose pulley is best suitable to avoid any damaged to the trans when that is spinning at 80 + miles per hour pushing that extra horses load.

I'll settle with the M-62 though just for insurance

[Robbomaz]

Got more cunfused

What is blowing my mind here is that the M-90 is bigger,wonder if mods are needed on the hood to fit the manifold.

Then which nose pulley is best suitable to avoid any damaged to the trans when that is spinning at 80 + miles per hour pushing that extra horses load.

I'll settle with the M-62 though just for insurance

M90 is bigger DISPLACEMENT, not actually physically bigger than the M62.
Torque and hp are a product of the boost, which is controlled by the pulley size. We will be sizing the pulley to boost 5 psi, which is mild.
Doesn't get any cheaper than this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

Rob

[Robbomaz]

Got more cunfused

What is blowing my mind here is that the M-90 is bigger,wonder if mods are needed on the hood to fit the manifold.

Then which nose pulley is best suitable to avoid any damaged to the trans when that is spinning at 80 + miles per hour pushing that extra horses load.

I'll settle with the M-62 though just for insurance

M62 WILL NOT fit the manifold we are going to make!

[Gussie2000]

M62 WILL NOT fit the manifold we are going to make!

All the manifolds at ebay.com has gone,sold pretty fast


Now i'm more confident about the MP-90.

[Robbomaz]

Still working on this folks, currently addressing clearances around the SC itself and it's actual position on the manifold
Rob