Supercharger

[Robbomaz]

Your sweet plywood intake reminded me...

I'm just throwi'n this out there as food for "you know what"...

I haven't looked at my stock intake plenum in years, but remember the top & bottom halves come apart...

Would it be possible to utilize the bottom half of the stock intake, to connect to the intake ports on the heads, & fabricate/machine a flat plate to seal the top, that the S/C would be attached to? I was thinking 1/2" aluminium plate.

Like i said, it's been years, so I've probably overlooked a detail or two, but I always thought that this might be an improvement over the cast iron intake lump that I originally received from Alpine.

Cast iron? You scared me there, I had to check.....the one we will be getting (from Alpine or elsewhere) is aluminum.
Regarding the stock intake idea, I actually consider the manifold in the kits to be a worse design! It would be great to be able to take advantage of those beaut vertical runners to slam the charge into the engine. (An engineer here in OZ actually developed 350 Chev heads that used that principle for drag boats - the manifold looked like a big spider sitting on the engine!) and maybe even retaining the dual length runner system - but there is one major issue: height. The SC would sit so high you would need a Pro Stock bonnet scoop

Anyway, my Frankenstein project 'Jackadeo' will have body back on chassis soon so I will be able to seriously measure & see - that has a 60mm body lift but will still give us an idea
Cheers for now
Rob

[Gussie2000]

It's very obvious that many Vx'ers are interested in the supercharger upgrade,including me so if australia's fellow mamber can help us get our nads onto those kits it shall be great & well appretiated.shipping shouldn't be a issue at all,UPS,fedex & other shipping carriers are all suitable.

But is also obvious that in order for alpine to built more of those kits it got to be on a group buy method.

[Robbomaz]

It's very obvious that many Vx'ers are interested in the supercharger upgrade,including me so if australia's fellow mamber can help us get our nads onto those kits it shall be great & well appretiated.shipping shouldn't be a issue at all,UPS,fedex & other shipping carriers are all suitable.

But is also obvious that in order for alpine to built more of those kits it got to be on a group buy method.

Exactly! The rest of the parts are not so much of an issue, as I have a secondary supplier and/or can batch fab them myself.
Manifold batch run is 10. There are 3 cars waiting here and I can afford to put one under the counter as an interest generator - so if 6 people on here are willing to put up a deposit of AUD500 each to reserve a manifold that I estimate will cost between AUD700 and AUD1000 plus shipping we are in business :bgwp:

Sorry I can't pin down tighter as neither party that do the manifolds has come back to me with a firm price yet. As soon as I have that you guys will know!

If I was a touch more cashed up I would spring for the entire production run myself, I am BUSTING to get this blower on my car!
Cheers for now
Rob

[Gussie2000]

So approximetly how much each kit would come up for with all assembly parts included ?

[Robbomaz]

So approximetly how much each kit would come up for with all assembly parts included ?

Without a SC I would think no more than AUD2500

[Gussie2000]

Without a SC I would think no more than AUD2500

Pardon my misunderstannding,you said without the S/C ?
I question meant the whole kit with every thing included

[Robbomaz]

Pardon my misunderstannding,you said without the S/C ?
I question meant the whole kit with every thing included

Sure, I understood that, but that was not what we are trying to do with this for these reasons:
We are in daily contact with Alpinesport in South Africa and I can tell you the cost of the SC is the reason the Alpine kits are no longer available!
Consider, for us to source a SC from California, ship it to us in AU, send it back to you in NY with the kit, adding shipping both ways, import duties and taxes that will be levied in BOTH countries would easily double the cost.

We plan to supply every specialised part (snout support, idler pulley, crank pulley etc) you need in a kit from here, and a comprehensive list of the SIMPLE hardware (fasteners & hose clamps etc) required, as well as the EXACT spec of the SC which you can then get from Magnusson at their '48 states' pricing
So you order a kit from us, and the SC from Cali, and the fasteners from a local supplier - 3 phone calls instead of one, and you save hundreds if not thousands of $:bgwp:
I understand this would not appeal to everyone, and a full turn-key kit may follow later, but I know after the Aus and US govts have finished with us the kit will be expensive - even leaving it a no margin sideline - in the order of $6K or more.
Dunno about you, but if I wanted to spend THAT kind of $ I would go buy the (compromised) off-the shelf kit from CAPA here - $8000 thank you!

Rob

[Gussie2000]

Sure, I understood that, but that was not what we are trying to do with this for these reasons:
We are in daily contact with Alpinesport in South Africa and I can tell you the cost of the SC is the reason the Alpine kits are no longer available!
Consider, for us to source a SC from California, ship it to us in AU, send it back to you in NY with the kit, adding shipping both ways, import duties and taxes that will be levied in BOTH countries would easily double the cost.

We plan to supply every specialised part (snout support, idler pulley, crank pulley etc) you need in a kit from here, and a comprehensive list of the SIMPLE hardware (fasteners & hose clamps etc) required, as well as the EXACT spec of the SC which you can then get from Magnusson at their '48 states' pricing
So you order a kit from us, and the SC from Cali, and the fasteners from a local supplier - 3 phone calls instead of one, and you save hundreds if not thousands of $:bgwp:
I understand this would not appeal to everyone, and a full turn-key kit may follow later, but I know after the Aus and US govts have finished with us the kit will be expensive - even leaving it a no margin sideline - in the order of $6K or more.
Dunno about you, but if I wanted to spend THAT kind of $ I would go buy the (compromised) off-the shelf kit from CAPA here - $8000 thank you!

Rob

Hmmmmmmm.I got you;I'll give magnusson a buzz on the following days let me hear what they have to say about the manifold.

Do you have the magnusson phone # so i can arrange the manifold right away ?

[Ldub]

Hmmmmmmm.I got you;I'll give magnusson a buzz on the following days let me hear what they have to say about the manifold.

Do you have the magnusson phone # so i can arrange the manifold right away ?

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/wheretobuy.htm ..

[Gussie2000]

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/wheretobuy.htm ..

Thank you !

I'm dead serious about superblowing my horse.

got few things in mind to do

1 Paint my calipers,not sure about going red,black or silver
2 Change the charcoal canister,gives me p0446 code,got to call merlin for availability

3 Tire rotation,alignment & balancing

[Gussie2000]

Hi folks!
Don't have a VX, unfortunately the cute little critters have never been available Downunder - do they even come in RHD? I have a Jackaroo (Trooper) chassis wearing a four door P'up body........
Anyway, I noticed some interest in supercharging - those with 3.5s heads up! I have made contact with the South Africans responsible for the Alpine Sports supercharger kits - they stopped making them because the exchange rates made the SC's themselves uneconomical. They have offered tech assistance and manufacture of small parts What is spurring this is this: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170322053311

We are looking at making parts to suit this SC on the 6VE1. I am hesitant to call them 'kits' per se, as you will need to have some DIY skills & input, but we are looking at supplying all the machined parts required, and support, so that someone who knows how to use a spanner will be able to do this.
We are doing this on 3 6VE1 vehicles here, and can make as many parts as there are people interested.
If interested reply here or PM me :bwgr:
Rob

Hi robbo i'm a bit confused here,the original manifold is a M62 1rst generation,but the one offered on ebay.com is a M90 4th generation.

I assumed the M90 has more power since it's a 4th generation design & i also recall reading from tone monday that any further S/C generation can place at risk blowing the trans which according to records by GM is capable of pushing up to 285 pounds-per square feet.

I guess the nose pulley may make the difference here isn't it ?

[Ldub]

Hi robbo i'm a bit confused here,the original manifold is a M62 1rst generation,but the one offered on ebay.com is a M90 4th generation.

I assumed the M90 has more power since it's a 4th generation design & i also recall reading from tone monday that any further S/C generation can place at risk blowing the trans which according to records by GM is capable of pushing up to 285 pounds-per square feet.

I guess the nose pulley may make the difference here isn't it ?

Re-read posts 12 & 13...

[Gussie2000]

Re-read posts 12 & 13...

Got more cunfused

What is blowing my mind here is that the M-90 is bigger,wonder if mods are needed on the hood to fit the manifold.

Then which nose pulley is best suitable to avoid any damaged to the trans when that is spinning at 80 + miles per hour pushing that extra horses load.

I'll settle with the M-62 though just for insurance

[Robbomaz]

Got more cunfused

What is blowing my mind here is that the M-90 is bigger,wonder if mods are needed on the hood to fit the manifold.

Then which nose pulley is best suitable to avoid any damaged to the trans when that is spinning at 80 + miles per hour pushing that extra horses load.

I'll settle with the M-62 though just for insurance

M90 is bigger DISPLACEMENT, not actually physically bigger than the M62.
Torque and hp are a product of the boost, which is controlled by the pulley size. We will be sizing the pulley to boost 5 psi, which is mild.
Doesn't get any cheaper than this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

Rob

[Robbomaz]

Got more cunfused

What is blowing my mind here is that the M-90 is bigger,wonder if mods are needed on the hood to fit the manifold.

Then which nose pulley is best suitable to avoid any damaged to the trans when that is spinning at 80 + miles per hour pushing that extra horses load.

I'll settle with the M-62 though just for insurance

M62 WILL NOT fit the manifold we are going to make!