Custom Bumper Project

[WormGod]

I saw Ldubs at Moab, looks sweet, but I was not impressed by the power difference. I talked to some of the gear heads at work, our engine just isn't made to handle too much boost, so I imagine a SC might get you an extra littl bit of uuumph, but for crawlin and playin in mud, I don't think it matters. For those with SC, no offense, but it just doesn't seem worth it at all.

No offense taken. Us S/C'd urban mall crawlers don't have all the offroad gear and are turning smaller meat, so the S/C is quite noticeable.

I am confused about something though. It is almost as though you see the S/C as being "too weak" for offroad activities, yet you are adding extra weight (ala this monster bumper) on top of your stock 3.5L? I would assume that, even offroad, the S/C would pitch in to help push/pull that weight, on top of what the stock 3.6L is already doing. *shrug*

[Marlin]

No offense taken. Us S/C'd urban mall crawlers don't have all the offroad gear and are turning smaller meat, so the S/C is quite noticeable.

I am confused about something though. It is almost as though you see the S/C as being "too weak" for offroad activities, yet you are adding extra weight (ala this monster bumper) on top of your stock 3.5L? I would assume that, even offroad, the S/C would pitch in to help push/pull that weight, on top of what the stock 3.6L is already doing. *shrug*

My reference point is Ldubs SC VX. We played in the sand at Moab, I would expect the SC VX to throw up some sand, and I am on just under 33s stock gearing as well. I kept up with him just fine with my NA Injen intake with K&N cone filter. I don't know what a S/C costs for the VX, but I would guess >$1K. Just doesn't seem worth it to me, but that is my opinion, I would much rather have lockers if I was gonna spend that much money. But once again, to each their own, hence my barbaric looking bumper Hopefully some new pics should be up this weekend, if I can get a hydraulic press with my cladding money, I can bend some tubing, and play with that project.
More to come...
Thanks for all the info, keep it coming.

[pbkid]

chris..another thing...

make sure you give some bracing backwards off of your 'stinger' to make sure if it gets some pressure from rocks or the rear end of a yukon that it doesnt bend in and ruin the front end of your VX...

[Ldub]

My reference point is Ldubs SC VX. We played in the sand at Moab, I would expect the SC VX to throw up some sand, and I am on just under 33s stock gearing as well. I kept up with him just fine with my NA Injen intake with K&N cone filter. I don't know what a S/C costs for the VX, but I would guess >$1K. Just doesn't seem worth it to me, but that is my opinion, I would much rather have lockers if I was gonna spend that much money. But once again, to each their own, hence my barbaric looking bumper

Uhhhh, yeah, whatever you say there chief...




If I'd have known you were tryin' to keep up, I woulda put my foot in it...
But then you would'v been buried, & I woulda had to dig you out...

You definitely have the whole "function before form" thing goin' on there...nice.

[tom4bren]

Izzat the 'embarassing exhaust' everyone was talkin bout recently?

[WormGod]

My reference point is Ldubs SC VX. We played in the sand at Moab, I would expect the SC VX to throw up some sand, and I am on just under 33s stock gearing as well. I kept up with him just fine with my NA Injen intake with K&N cone filter. I don't know what a S/C costs for the VX, but I would guess >$1K. Just doesn't seem worth it to me, but that is my opinion, I would much rather have lockers if I was gonna spend that much money. But once again, to each their own, hence my barbaric looking bumper Hopefully some new pics should be up this weekend, if I can get a hydraulic press with my cladding money, I can bend some tubing, and play with that project.
More to come...
Thanks for all the info, keep it coming.

Fair enough. I would go with gears and lockers for your application. Boost ain't gonna be of much use crawling anyways. It's damn nice when you wanna make that fast lane pass at 65+mph though.

Some advice though.... next time you wanna play with Dub, show him that it's the pedal on the RIGHT.

[Marlin]

Fair enough. I would go with gears and lockers for your application. Boost ain't gonna be of much use crawling anyways. It's damn nice when you wanna make that fast lane pass at 65+mph though.

Some advice though.... next time you wanna play with Dub, show him that it's the pedal on the RIGHT.

Ha ha ha ha ha. At his age, he is lucky he is even allowed to drive...
Anyway, you being stuck on that ledge and throwing up sand does not count. Kodiak threw some sand there as well, and he is on street tires!!!
I was talking more about when we played in the dunes, and your (Ldub) VX was severely bogged down, and I thought you were going to have to back up or get snatched, and we all played in the same sand.
As for function before form, I take that as a compliment, a "birds of a feather thing" or "the pot calling the kettle black".

As for the power at 65mph, my VX rarely goes on the freeway, and if it does, it doesn't go fast...I do believe lockers may be my next project after the whole bumper thing is done. Probably just front locker, I am happy with the LSD rear end. We shall see. One thing at a time boys, one thing at a time.

[ZEUS]

I was talking more about when we played in the dunes, and your (Ldub) VX was severely bogged down, and I thought you were going to have to back up or get snatched, and we all played in the same sand.

Have you noticed how aggressive Ldub's tires are and that your's are fairly smooth? Have you realized different tires perform differently in different terrains? In other words, would you think the S/C was the greatest thing since breastmilk if you saw Ldub blow thru a mud hole you got stuck in?

[Marlin]

Well, my VX has never been stuck in or on anything that was due to a lack of power. Tires of any kind are breaking loose regardless of medium with what horsies we already have.
All I am saying is, for the thousands it would cost to SC my VX, the gain is just not worth it for a crawler or general purpose off roader. Maybe baja, or street would be different.

[Ldub]

As for function before form, I take that as a compliment, a "birds of a feather thing" or "the pot calling the kettle black".

In your dreams...maybe......... ...

[pbkid]

play nice guys....

he is just saying for his application.... 5 or 6k could be spent more efficiently....
LDUB is pulling A LOT of extra weight in his VX daily, and he also regularly pulls a trailer...so a SC for him makes more sence for his application...

[Marlin]

play nice guys....

he is just saying for his application.... 5 or 6k could be spent more efficiently....

5 or 6K, is that what it costs to S/C a VX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You could do an entire V8 swap for that kind of money!!!!!!!! I could SAS, locked front and rear and new gears for that much!!!!!!!!!