I, for one, am not beating up on your idea, Chris... just the results thus far. I like the idea of a Road Armor style winch bumper. The thing is... it's best to learn how to walk before you learn how to run. So I don't get why someone with no skills or experience with metal work would take on something this massive, except, of course, to say you were the first to build a bumper. To me, telling people "I bet you couldn't do this your first time out" is like saying "I bet you guys wouldn't have as much success at learning how NOT to do something". But, at the same time nobody has ever said anything negative about your growing skills as we all know you are not done and we all know you are learning as you go; however, your bumper mimics that, and now your VX mimics that, and that is where all the flack is coming from.