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[WormGod]

Heh, true and fair enough. Any Jeep owners probably know that witch hunt well. I'll give you that much. The hardliners of any type of vehicle are always gonna be hard on the guys who can cover the whole field. They can always do 1 thing better, but the other guy can do it all pretty well. There probably never is a winner, heh.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't knocking the Typhoon. It was a nasty piece of machinery for it's time. The Typhoon's application was not exactly geared towards being THAT versatile. I think anyone who has to deal with random and annoying east coast winters knows that versatility is golden, heh.

I think if I lived down south or out west, I would have a hangar of RWD machines.

[JHarris1385]

This is all old news at least the vehicle that is. Here is a thread I started a couple years ago. http://vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=10374

Other cool vehicles too search are the jdm trucks made specifically for people living in iceland and so forth.

[vt_maverick]

Back to topic... this is one of my favorite front/rear hatchet jobs:

[nfpgasmask]

I think the haters need to take a step back and think about the broad picture.... your VX really isn't much different than the STi.

It's funny how this discussion has evolved. Because Worm, with the above statement, I still feel 100% differently. The VX looks super cool, I think we can all agree on that. The Subis (REGARDLESS OF THEIR CAPABILITIES) look like a regular old 4-door sedan. If you can describe to me how the don't, that would be great. Then maybe I can begin to sympathize. That was really my only original point. I do not doubt the capabilities and reliability of a Subaru. They are obviously quality vehicles for their price range. It's just that, imho, they look like nothing more than a Honda Civic. And being a person who likes the whole package, I simply don't understand.

In addition to that, I guess I just don't understand the "ricer" or "street racer" thing. I know I am no better with a wheeling rig, but the difference is (again this is just my opinion) that I ACTUALLY OFFROAD in my VX. Now, maybe I am totally wrong, but I would venture to believe that most people who own Subi's are not rallying them or drifting them or whatever. I mean, I saw a 350Z last weekend with a farbon kiber hood, body kit, spoiler, loads of racing stickers and NISMO crap, and couldn't help but wonder if that person just did all that modding to make his car "look cool". Does the driver ACTUALLY race his 350Z? Somehow I doubt it. But again, maybe I am wrong. Who knows.

Bart

[WormGod]

I can't answer for the 350 owner. Maybe it's for show. But no matter what it is, it's his and I am sure he likes it. *shrug* If he races it, cool. If not, cool. We don't have to like it, but we CAN poke fun at it.

As for looks of the VX vs a Sube, I wasn't playing that card. I was talking about usability/versatility. Both are physically designed to be cross trainers. They can take the beating of various terrains. Sorry, sounds like miscommunication there. On the look factor, oh ya, night and day. Subaru was NEVER known for looks. Still yet, I think my '09 is pretty ugly. I agree with Jeremy from Top Gear when he said the front of the new STi looks like a rhino's buttocks. Needless to say, I didn't really get it for it's looks. Symmetrical AWD, DCCD, big brakes, extra room to boot (so far.... dog, groceries, camping gear, passengers, etc), and simply fun to drive when I want. It is a perfect DD for every day that mother nature smiles or rears her ugly head. In the end, it sounds like a struggle over "form over function". I guess I just see it the other way around, heh.

But yes, I will agree with you all if I was misunderstood with your point.... my STi is butt ugly, but I love it, heh.

I do love the heritage though. RallyX and Colin Mcrea are what started it all with me....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaKiA4KjZ4o

And ya, back on topic.... this was forwarded to me by a co-worker today. Just.... wow....

[Triathlete]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...you guys just need to agree to disagree! Now kiss and make up!

[nfpgasmask]

And ya, back on topic.... this was forwarded to me by a co-worker today. Just.... wow....

Yeah, I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

Bart

[Triathlete]

When did you buy that?

[djvx]

nah, lets keep going with this....im certain harleys are hated too. So go on and start your diatribes on how lousy that American Icon is.
I'd take a harley any day of the week. I don't like them because of there performance, but rather the social fun that goes along with them. I like the extra weight and the riding position and generally feel more comfortable on them. I know Harley owns Buell-which actually makes crotch bikes so they aren't completely a oneway company. I'm sure I'm horribly off base about them and will soon learn how useless these overweight pieces of trash are, just like old hotrods.

[nfpgasmask]

nah, lets keep going with this....im certain harleys are hated too. So go on and start your diatribes on how lousy that American Icon is.
I'd take a harley any day of the week. I don't like them because of there performance, but rather the social fun that goes along with them. I like the extra weight and the riding position and generally feel more comfortable on them. I know Harley owns Buell-which actually makes crotch bikes so they aren't completely a oneway company. I'm sure I'm horribly off base about them and will soon learn how useless these overweight pieces of trash are, just like old hotrods.

LOL, I actually don't care for 99% of the Harleys I have seen. I just don't like hogs. That said I don't like Crotch Rockets either. I am definitely right in the middle. If I was buying a bike right now it would be a Kaw KLR most likely. But, if money was no object I would be on this bike in a hot minute:



Bart

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

LOL, I actually don't care for 99% of the Harleys I have seen. I just don't like hogs. That said I don't like Crotch Rockets either. I am definitely right in the middle. If I was buying a bike right now it would be a Kaw KLR most likely. But, if money was no object I would be on this bike in a hot minute:



Bart

I had a Harley....not planning on going back anytime soon. Would try/buy a Victory before going back to Harley. Know a few Victory owners and they LOVE their bikes. The styling of Victory bikes is more my taste...kind of Hot Roddy in an automotive way. Don't believe me? Take a look @ their website and see the Hammer S....makes you think Carol Shelby Cobra!

I did fall for the Harley V-Rod but quickly fell out of Love. Not comfortable for longer rides...small gas tank.....hated by traditionalists. Its pretty hard to pay $$$$ for a Harley that other Harley owners hate!

I felt my V-Strom was too much bang for the buck to say no and it reminds me so much of the VX! I've already had it up to 130mph on asphalt and it loves dirt/gravel back roads. Plus, I get complements on the sound of a racing V-Twin with performance mufflers all the time. **If you would like to hear a close approximation go to www.holeshot.com (and select video clips from menu...go down to SV1000 section and select from 1 of 4 vid's)

I watched a show called "Twist the Throttle" and one episode featured BMW and the bike you like Bart was featured in a segment. I DO like that bike!

Sorry for straying off topic!

I have been attracted to the Suburu Baja with turbo & manual trannie but they dropped it from their lineup....before they started painting the "cladding"...like pre-2005.

[pbkid]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

yup...thank you!!!

nah, lets keep going with this....im certain harleys are hated too. So go on and start your diatribes on how lousy that American Icon is.
I'd take a harley any day of the week. I don't like them because of there performance, but rather the social fun that goes along with them. I like the extra weight and the riding position and generally feel more comfortable on them. I know Harley owns Buell-which actually makes crotch bikes so they aren't completely a oneway company. I'm sure I'm horribly off base about them and will soon learn how useless these overweight pieces of trash are, just like old hotrods.

lol calm down djvx...its not a personal attack against you. you dont need to get defensive about it...

but if you really wanna know? i think harleys are annoying...a bunch of chrome (really cool back in the 70's and 80's)... annoyingly loud exhausts (they all sound the same)...
and im not going to discuss the harley riders here in colorado..because i dont want to make this personal (its a opinion...calm down)


isnt he f'in awesome???

[djvx]

[QUOTE=pbkid;163779]


yup...thank you!!!



lol calm down djvx...its not a personal attack against you. you dont need to get defensive about it...

but if you really wanna know? i think harleys are annoying...a bunch of chrome (really cool back in the 70's and 80's)... annoyingly loud exhausts (they all sound the same)...
and im not going to discuss the harley riders here in colorado..because i dont want to make this personal (its a opinion...calm down)


I didn't use any exclamation points or capitol letters. I don't need to calm down at all. I love my chrome and my Harley. Would you like to see a 65 year old man on a crotch rocket? Should he like them because a younger age group considers them "cool" ? Should my grampa where gangsta type clothing because thats what a certain age group deems as cool?
I think with age one's definition or appreciation of whats cool is totally subjective. So when you say chrome is bad you are looking at it from what your generation deems as uncool. Someday you will be where I am. And you might be trying to defend you're liking of "graphite" hoods. And some youger kid is going to tell you how uncool it is, your old subaru was and your plasticy looking motorcycle----it's just the way it is.

[pbkid]

true...
i agree 100%..
finally, something we agree on..