Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
oh man...i guess im showing my age

no, but really.. i have heard of some of these films, but no...i havent seen em...never really been into sci-fi though to be honest...
First off, Mad Max is not sci-fi. I would say action/adventure. And Red Dawn, well, let's just say Jack, that you NEED to go rent this asap, especially since you live in Colorado and like the outdoors. Red Dawn is not sci-fi. This film was as monumental, if not more so than Mad Max for me. Regardless of age, check it out. I think you might like it.

Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
and actually no on the cars bart, all of those look like over-heavy hunks of metal.
That's because they are!! I would much rather have a heavy steel monster than a plastic toy. That's what amazed me about the Trooper, the whole thing is made of metal! The thing is a tank!

Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
..i can appreciate them for being a good vehicle for their time, but they are dead now and FAR outdated...
Well sure, of course they are outdated. Hell, the VX is outdated if you really think about it. For me, it has nothing to do with anything but the way they look. I really don't care for ANYTHING that came out of the 70s, but the cars. IMO, there has been NOTHING the American auto industry has produced since then that I even remotely like. IMO, the 80s was the greatest era for exotics and the 90s, well, basically it had nothing at all until the VX. And today, again, I fall back because I think just about everything is boring/looks the same/ugly.

Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
dont get me wrong, i can appreciate that at the time, that was an amazing vehicle..but nowadays, it just seems useless. big, heavy, ugly, stock-has no power....yes with lots of $$$ and time one can make one of those really fast...but that can be said with ANY vehicle...
Useless, true. Expensive, absolutely. Stock-has no power, not sure about that one, I never thought a 351 V8 was powerless, but again, I am strictly talking about the looks here. Do the looks of a vehicle even matter to you, Jack? Or is it all about economy and power?? Given the fact that you own a VX, I have to think you care at least a little about style and aesthetics!

Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
as whitney has watched us discuss throughout this thread she just keeps telling me, "its all about what you grow up with, thats what was cool when they were 16, so to them its cool stll...to you, japanese cars are cool, so its cool to you"....sadly enough, i think shes right again
Well, yes and no. I think she is right to an extent. If she were 100% right, than I really shouldn't like early 70s muscle at all, since I wasn't even alive yet, but for me, it was something that I have always loved since I was a kid. I can't stand 70s music at all (save for the Moody Blues and some late 70s disco and of course punk), and I hate the clothing styles of the 70s, but the short period between 1970 and 1974 produced the coolest looking American cars EVER, imho. I like 80s cars too, and to say I don't like Japanese cars is wrong (I have a VX, remember?). I really love the 80s Japanese sports cars like the Datsun 280z, the old Supras, and cars like that. Going further back, I don't really care for much from the 1960s, but then the 1950s, I have to admit I like a little of that. A well done rat rod can look pretty sweet. And you wanna talk heavy hunks of metal!

I think you and I differ because I won't give anything the time of day if I think it doesn't look cool first. Life is too short to drink cheap beer, drive a boring vehicle, and diet. You only live once, so shoot for the stars, man!


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