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    Wrench On Board Air Options??

    As my rear seats are now removed and i've had two occasions where i have un beaded a tyre and needed a tyre guy to take my tyre off and re-seat it i am going to build a decent rear boot build. i.e tools, compressor subs etc. Means i can also let the tyres down in muddy conditions etc

    My options are;

    a simple single cyliner pump. Will be enough (just) to inflate the 33" tyre
    http://www.mm-4x4.com/t-max-heavy-du...sor-2929-p.asp

    a twin cylinder pump, faster and tougher
    http://www.firstfour.co.uk/compresso...76--564062.php


    The other idea is to have a 2 - 3 gallon tank hooked up to a pump. however im not sure if that will work on the pumps above? i.e the tank is pressurised and the pump only kicks in when the air pressure in the tank drops to a pre-determined pressure?
    http://www.dsengineering.co.uk/showproduct-s.php?pid=57


    this means instant and powerfull air for re-seating an un beaded tyre as you need it to POP back onto the rim.

    The other advantage of this is i can hook one of these bad boys up to it and get back at the people that cut me up daily in London

    http://www.hornblasters.com/products...-and-air-horns

    http://www.hornblasters.com/video.php?pic=35


    The options are anoyingly small for this set up if the pumps above don't work with an air tank as i cant find a 12v compressor linked to a tank in the UK.

    Could get this
    http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...er=ShoppingCom

    with a 1000 watt power invertor? May be handy to have 240v in the boot at some point anyway?

    Other option is this, a proper set up but bloody expensive

    http://www.devon4x4.com/products_a/k...ir-system.html

    What do you recon?
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    I've got the twin cylinder compressor and it's very fast. Pumps my 33" tyre up in little over a minute. I use it in conjunction with the ARB Deflator: http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p...-deflator.html

    The tanks would be nice, but considering how often you'd use it I recon you could make better use of the space.

    Ideally go for this: http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p...nch-12000.html

    As for de-deading, I would strongly suggest you buy some beadlockers or failing that get some Staun internal bead lockers: http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p...-inch-7/9.html

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    I say tank if you don't mind using the space in the back. The reason being is you can go with a non-100% duty cycle compressor and use it to build up the tank, which will allow you to get better use out of air tools when you are out and about. Small 3-5 gallon tank would probably be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alterastro View Post
    I've got the twin cylinder compressor and it's very fast. Pumps my 33" tyre up in little over a minute. I use it in conjunction with the ARB Deflator: http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p...-deflator.html

    The tanks would be nice, but considering how often you'd use it I recon you could make better use of the space.

    Ideally go for this: http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p...nch-12000.html

    As for de-deading, I would strongly suggest you buy some beadlockers or failing that get some Staun internal bead lockers: http://www.devon4x4.com/products_b/p...-inch-7/9.html

    Nick


    what about the train horn though

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    looks like i've got even longer to consider this, just got car tax and a new passport...... 280 quid!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crotchrocket View Post
    what about the train horn though
    http://www.airhorns.co.uk/product.as...228&deptid=290

    118dB is more than enough and a fraction of the price of the other ones

    ...and if you want to get through the London traffic, get some of these: http://www.airhorns.co.uk/product.as...559&deptid=283



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    that train horn should just barely fit behind the front bumper... the one shown here is about 45cm


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    Here is another option if you're a diver, or know one who can get your tank refilled.

    A fifty cu. ft. aluminium scuba bottle.
    A bit dangerous for leaving in the boot in the event of a catastrophic rear end collision, but works good for filling tyres & powering air tools...





    I've incorporated tool storage bins on the sides, & a sub/amp into the design.

    Also, check Kenny's gallery, he has a slick CO2 tank that's another good option.

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    LDUB..............as always thats awesome.....all hail the king!!!!!!

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    you've given me some ideas now too !!!

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    CR, some others have installed an air tank in their rear door (JollyRogerVXer comes to mind) since they aren't using the space to store the standard spare tire any more.

    Jay Dunford (former VX owner and current FJ owner) has a nice compressor set up on his FJ so maybe he'll chime in here. I "borrowed" some air from him during Moab and his set up filled my tires faster than any gas station compressor ever has. I'm trying to find room in the VX somewhere to do something similar.
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    Here's a discussion on this very topic...

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...&highlight=CO2

    Search CO2 for more...much more...

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    Yup, here is my solution.



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    Who's the cat in Moab this year that had the air compresser that clipped up to the battery? It was small, portable, and worked great. Whoever that was please chime in and tell me the make/model of it.
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    I was one of those people. I have THIS ONE

    These will not re-bead a tire though. About the only thing that will do that is a Co2 tank. To re-bead a tire it takes a stong fast burst of air. But for airing up tires after the trail the above compressor is great. I was fortunate enough to get mine for $25 when the company that makes them first put them out on the market. The jeepers got wind of them and the positive reviews and they sold out FAST at that price. Even at the current price it is still a great value. They have been compaired to the much more expensive Viars.
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