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Thread: I don't care what they say but.... RUSSIANS built the first Vehicross!

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    Talking I don't care what they say but.... RUSSIANS built the first Vehicross!

    Yep... we build one, called BA-64, almost 70 years ago, back in 1942...

    Here is the proof:

    - limited edition:
    1942 - 2.486
    1943 - 1.800
    1944 - 3.000
    1945 - 868
    Total - 9.910 ever made

    - AWD system

    - initially designed by foreign firm (Eisenwerken Weserhütte)

    - tons of modifications, each BA-64 was pretty much unique:
    * different armor upgrades (skidplates??)
    * machine gun upgrades (incl. the massive heavy-caliber DShKM 12.7 heavy machine gun, for those who know )
    * wheels and tires upgrades (including metal railroad wheels and caterpillar belts)
    * capacity upgrades to convert to armored infantry carrier (similar to 4-door VX)

    - still doubtful?? LOOK AT THE PICTURES!!!!!

    Vodka... Connecting people

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    Thats awesome, i also think that the Volvo 'Sugga' is an old VX too !!! and again it was the Russians using them!!







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    All you guys who attend the University of Kentucky (UK) need to seriously lay-off the vodka!!!

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    If you had attended the University of Kentucky, like I did, then you would know that the drink of choice is Bourbon, not Vodka (and yes all UK students drink too much Bourbon).

    That aside, where their body panels made with ceramic dies? Did they have fancy KYB racing shocks?

    I think Not!
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    Okay I will settle this

    The BA-64 could definately be a VX prototype

    The swedish Volvo looks more like a Hudson or a Packard

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    Germans built it first, back in 1935. SdKfz 221

    I don't have any reliable data on total production of all the 221/222/223 variants but it was roughly 2118 total.

    I'd post pics but can't figure out how
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    ha-ha-ha !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tworavens View Post

    I'd post pics but can't figure out how

    Try this, let me know if you need more.

    http://www.vehicross.info/modules.ph...egory&cid=7#38
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    The functional purpose of the VX was multiple surface type, high speed cornering capability. This was made possible by three inovations linked together. Full-time AWD Torque on Demand, which was rear wheel biased. That was unique. Second, external expansion chamber shocks. Third, dual mode transmission linked with the first two advancements. It had 4High and 4Low modes. The total package was functionally revolutionary. Hang onto yours, they will be worth something as automotive firsts someday, soon.

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    Talking I have looked all over

    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post




    Bart

    Cant find the 50 cal machine gun option/modification anywhere.

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    Attachment 1150 Wow this picture really thru me off. I thought Marlin had finished his Mods (painted his VX) and was driving by to dubs to show it off. The shovel on the right front is a nice addition too.
    Also did ya notice the guy jumping in the jeep. VX's have that effect.
    Last edited by handeeman : 09/02/2009 at 11:20 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by handeeman View Post
    Attachment 1150 Wow this picture really thru me off. I thought Marlin had finished his Mods (painted his VX) and was driving by to dubs to show it off. The shovel on the right front is a nice addition too.
    Also did ya notice the guy jumping in the jeep. VX's have that effect.
    Ah yes, I have been away on the project, the garage is being epoxied, which has a one week cure time, so two weeks while doing each half one at a time...I am bored out of my mind.

    The side by side pics from Bart, very enlightening, that thing looks a lot like a VX. Of course, I look at some of the older santa fe's and think the same thing, the flared fenders, rounded body lines...just my opinion.






    I bet the Russian version had drink holders...and comfy arm rests on the door, and you can bet your ace that it has more than one way to open the top turret access...
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    1rst vehicross ?

    Well........... all i can say is that i don't see the VehiCROSS pillar bagdes any where on those VehiCROSS
    Dakar was just the begining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gussie2000 View Post
    Well........... all i can say is that i don't see the VehiCROSS pillar bagdes any where on those VehiCROSS
    So,all I need is some extra VX badges, and that makes it a VX? No way, that is like saying that the "Trail Rated" badge on a Jeep means its actually "trail rated".
    Nope, it is just a fancy sticker.

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