Why did you leave Chicago Bart?

[nfpgasmask]

Just because the media labeled the states red and blue does not give any comparison to gangs. Hey I own a pair of broen shoes does that make me a member of Hitlers brown shoes? Govts whether the DEm or Republican agree that society needs system of rules and punishment that everyone should follow they disagree on what the rules should be. Gangs are made up of idiots who are not smart enough to get ahead when they are made to follow the same rules everyone else is and they ignore those rules. Having rules but no enforcement or punishment or not having the punishment meted out equally makes the rules ineffectual. No punishment much like gun laws ensures only those who are civilized will follow the rules. Afterall do you really think the Virginia sniper who shot something like 13 people would never have done it if owning the gun was against the law? I can see him now "Geez I would love to murder people (which is against the law) but I can not buy a gun legally so I guess I will not be able to do it.

Honestly, I agree with what Justin was saying. Obviously, your average gang-banger is different than George W. and Dickless Chaney. But, Justin was drawing a comparison to the way that things are run. Gang turf is disputed in a crude, uncivilized, violent manner. But in a nut-shell, it is no different than any other turf war carried out by an organized and supposedly civilized government military. The only difference is, one group has no money, power or resources, while the other group does.

I hate to say it, but there is absolutely no convincing me that any war waged by this country has been anything more than a complicated turf war. You killed my homie on the corner of 22nd street and Kedzie last night, so I am gonna do a drive by and shoot at your house. You attacked Pearl Harbor and killed a whole bunch of my men and destroyed my battleship fleet, so I am gonna nuke the hell outta your two biggest strategic targets. The only difference here is scale.

We are all humans, and humans ARE animals. Once you accept that, and stop believing the nonsense that says otherwise, you can accept a whole lot of things you never imagined. Of course, you may choose NOT to accept it, you may choose to ignore it, you may choose to believe in fictional ideals and contrived "facts". You may choose to fight against nature till the day you die. Most people do. But I personally find much peace in realizing that all the "crazy" things happening today, have been happening since the dawn of time. The only difference between yesterday and today is scale and accessibility.

Bart

[nocturnalVX]

The thing is, most Chicagoans do not make use of the Great Lake we live next to.

The vast majority of crimes are due to repeat offenders and "known gang members". All the government needs to do is load them all onto an old cargo ship, tow it out to the middle of Lake Michigan, and then sink it. Crime plummets, scumbags that are thinking of misbehaving are more leary of the consequences, and the majority of us live in a more civilized land. Problem solved.

[nfpgasmask]

Or, we just call Batman.

Bart

[circmand]

Honestly, I agree with what Justin was saying. Obviously, your average gang-banger is different than George W. and Dickless Chaney. But, Justin was drawing a comparison to the way that things are run. Gang turf is disputed in a crude, uncivilized, violent manner. But in a nut-shell, it is no different than any other turf war carried out by an organized and supposedly civilized government military. The only difference is, one group has no money, power or resources, while the other group does.

I hate to say it, but there is absolutely no convincing me that any war waged by this country has been anything more than a complicated turf war. You killed my homie on the corner of 22nd street and Kedzie last night, so I am gonna do a drive by and shoot at your house. You attacked Pearl Harbor and killed a whole bunch of my men and destroyed my battleship fleet, so I am gonna nuke the hell outta your two biggest strategic targets. The only difference here is scale.

We are all humans, and humans ARE animals. Once you accept that, and stop believing the nonsense that says otherwise, you can accept a whole lot of things you never imagined. Of course, you may choose NOT to accept it, you may choose to ignore it, you may choose to believe in fictional ideals and contrived "facts". You may choose to fight against nature till the day you die. Most people do. But I personally find much peace in realizing that all the "crazy" things happening today, have been happening since the dawn of time. The only difference between yesterday and today is scale and accessibility.

Bart

The US has never fought in a war where we did not give back everything we won and assist in repairingthe damage we caused. Japan Germany we kicked but in WWII but as soon as it was over we helped rebuild and gave money besides. The Marshall Plan etc. Also withall the nukes and advanced weapons we have we could have conquered the world or blown it to smithereens but we have always been war as a last resort. Even Iraq, sure a lot of america haters tried to claim we were in it for oil and nation building but we are now pulling soldiers out and leaving Iraq to Home Rule of its country withthem voting for the first time in decades. If you see no difference I do not see how you can have hope for a better world

[nfpgasmask]

If you see no difference I do not see how you can have hope for a better world

Exactly, I don't. Not one shred.

Bart

[CrnCnn]

Ok, so its not like I am watching chicago news or anything. I find this stuff on Drudge report and what not.

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