Wheel and Tire question

[Mile High VX]

So I got the Dragon today...

I took it to my local Discount Tire whee I had the 18" Razors with -6 offset and Nitto Terras in 285/65/18.

Major rubbing in the rear of the front wells. Front of these wells was as expected and easy to fix.

How do I make the rear accpet these? They look awesome, but I'm not sure I want to refabricate the rear of the front wells to make it work.

Help is appreciated.

[Riff Raff]

Major rubbing in the rear of the front wells. Front of these wells was as expected and easy to fix.

How do I make the rear accpet these?

First off, congrats on your purchase!!! The Dragon is my second favorite color and the paint is breath-taking in bright sunshine.

The Nitto T/G in 285/65R18 (32.52" O.D.) tires are both wide & tall, and you have them mounted on very wide rims which greatly magnify their "swing arc" when turning. The same height tire in 265/70R18 (32.64" O.D.) will have a lesser degree of "swing arc" due to its narrower 265 series width and may have less rubbing conflict within the tightly cramped VX front wheelwells.

I would guess that one of your major rubbing points is the famous protruding "bolt" located at the extreme bottom inner fenderwell rear on the front-left driver side when the front wheels are turned full-lock left. This "bolt" can simply be removed and may solve your problem; if not, then you have a series of other options to choose from:

A. After removing famous "bolt", check "swing arc" fitment. Consider using a BFH to customize the rear of the inner fenderwells until appropriate tire clearance is gained. If you don't like the BFH idea, then move on to other options below.
B. Switch to a same height, but much narrower tire in 265/70R18 (32.64" O.D.) and check fitment.
C. Switch to a slightly smaller & narrower tire in 275/65R18 (32" O.D.) and check fitment. This is probably your best option.
D. Switch to the short & stubby 285/60R18 (31.3" O.D.) and check fitment.

If you're after both a "wider" look with "taller" O.D., then option "C" may be your best option without further damaging your new Dragon purchase with a BFH.

[Mile High VX]

Hey Riff Raff thanks for all the help.

The biggest issue was the lower portion of the wheel well where the cladding and inner fender meet. We couldn't ever turn the wheels all the way it had so much contact!

What about moving down to a 17" rim? They have this wheel in a 17" size with a +25 offset.

Not sure that's the look I'm after, but also not sure that there would be a marked difference.

First off, congrats on your purchase!!! The Dragon is my second favorite color and the paint is breath-taking in bright sunshine.

The Nitto T/G in 285/65R18 (32.52" O.D.) tires are both wide & tall, and you have them mounted on very wide rims which greatly magnify their "swing arc" when turning. The same height tire in 265/70R18 (32.64" O.D.) will have a lesser degree of "swing arc" due to its narrower 265 series width and may have less rubbing conflict within the tightly cramped VX front wheelwells.

I would guess that one of your major rubbing points is the famous protruding "bolt" located at the extreme bottom inner fenderwell rear on the front-left driver side when the front wheels are turned full-lock left. This "bolt" can simply be removed and may solve your problem; if not, then you have a series of other options to choose from:

A. After removing famous "bolt", check "swing arc" fitment. Consider using a BFH to customize the rear of the inner fenderwells until appropriate tire clearance is gained. If you don't like the BFH idea, then move on to other options below.
B. Switch to a same height, but much narrower tire in 265/70R18 (32.64" O.D.) and check fitment.
C. Switch to a slightly smaller & narrower tire in 275/65R18 (32" O.D.) and check fitment. This is probably your best option.
D. Switch to the short & stubby 285/60R18 (31.3" O.D.) and check fitment.

If you're after both a "wider" look with "taller" O.D., then option "C" may be your best option without further damaging your new Dragon purchase with a BFH.

[samneil2000]

I recently put 33x12 tires on my VX and had the clearance issue you are talking about. I took a sawzall with a metal blade and cut inward at the bottom of the well. I left the outside corner (where people see it) intact but cut in from that point. I only removed probably 3/4 inch or so, but it was enough to clear them.

Check this thread http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16761
to see what I had to do.

[rowhard]

The biggest issue was the lower portion of the wheel well where the cladding and inner fender meet. We couldn't ever turn the wheels all the way it had so much contact!

What about moving down to a 17" rim? They have this wheel in a 17" size with a +25 offset.

Not sure that's the look I'm after, but also not sure that there would be a marked difference.

I had the same issue (rubbing at the back) and that was with a +18 offset. Had to take a BFH and knock the bottom bolt in. It is just a sheet metal tab to hold the cladding. With a 17 at a +25, I'd be surprised if you have any issues and if so, it would be a easy fix. I run the 285-60-18's

[tom4bren]

Major rubbing in the rear of the front wells. Front of these wells was as expected and easy to fix.

Mine rubbed deep inside the wheel well at full lock. The tires are so worn now though that they don't rub any more. I'll be breaking out the BFH whenever I get new tires tho.

Mine also rubbed the NERF bar brackets that I got from Tone so they've never been installed (offset at fault ... not Tone).

[nfpgasmask]

Modding the cladding a little is VERY insignificant. I didn't wanna do it either when I got bigger tires, but it really is no big deal.

Bart

[samneil2000]

Same here. I was scared at first, but it was soooo worth it once I got them on.

Modding the cladding a little is VERY insignificant. I didn't wanna do it either when I got bigger tires, but it really is no big deal.

Bart

[Mile High VX]

Well I took the plunge (sorry Riff Raff, just couldn't let 'em go but you tried)

MB Razors / 18x8.5 / offset -6 Yokohama Geolander A/T-S in 275/60/18

[Riff Raff]

Well I took the plunge (sorry Riff Raff, just couldn't let 'em go but you tried)

MB Razors / 18x8.5 / offset -6 Yokohama Geolander A/T-S in 275/60/18

Hi Earl--- No harm, no foul. Actually, I feel pretty proud of you because you took one of my first initial suggestions in using the Yokohama Geo in 275/60R18 (31" O.D./42 lbs) that I recommended in a very early E-Mail to you. Fellow VX member "ScottinMA" had very simular difficulty with his wide 9" rims and we found that the Yoko was the only true A/T manufactured in that size that still allowed "swing arc" clearance on the VX.

Your VX looks simply stunning with a "Tom4Bren" kinda' flair. If you had heavy 285/65R18 (60 lb) tires on your VX before, then I'm sure your VX is extremely nimble now with a very sporty feel. Well done, Earl.

[Mile High VX]