Oh no, you mean to tell me there aren't neat little park signs saying things like:
"Fins and Things" fine seafood dining ahead 500yds.
"Dome Plateau" Please don't feed the bald headed old men
"Colorado River" 500yds (straight down)
"Kane Creek" feel free to use crutches
"Hell's Revenge" tacos and other mexican food next exit
"Poison Spyder" Ahead 50yds...keep your windows rolled up
"Rest Area" next exit (next Rest Area 5 miles)
"Slower Traffic and Jeeps right lane only"
"Amber Alert" Missing Proton VX w/too much off-set
warning driver has dementia and will insist he is not lost....
So I said to myself, I said "Handee"
and this voice came back and said..
"He's not in, may we take a message?"
you may not be too good at filling the radio waves with information. but you definately know your way around.... you havent steered me wrong every time i've followed you yet.
dont worry... with 20 VX'ers im sure we can fill the radio waves with useless info to keep everyone entertained.
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OK, well we're not doing Fins 'n Things then... although I don't think I've ever gotten lost more than once there...but always at least once!
Well let's talk about this, whether I lead or not. [gets out new, 2nd edition, spiral bound, Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-wheel Drive Trails ]
I was thinking of going to Elephant Hill again, love that trail...but you guys did it a few years ago. If you guys could keep moving along we could go do the Joint Trail hike along the way, very cool. But I suspect with a group that large it would be problematic to do all that without getting back very late.
I've never done Top of the World, have you guys?
Thompson Canyon/Polar Mesa looks interesting, climbs to 8000 feet in the La Sal mountains, and starts on Onion Creek Road which offers a bunch of creek crossings early on.
Chicken Corners or Bull Canyon might be good choices.
Hey Joe Canyon might be good, except for likely brush scratches...
Thoughts?
I've always wanted to do Top of the World!!
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just my 2 cents.....but...
a creek crossing trail probably isnt the best thing to do for the newbie's as that generally creates 'pin-striping' that some may not want on their ride.. (i dont give a crap, i just got done ripping my mirror off)
but thats just what i think...how bout hell's revenge?? easy trail, has some challenges... stock VX should have no problems at all...always a good one for newbs (i know we have all done it a bazillion times, but for the new guys its a legendary trail)
or poison spider?? their are bypasses around anything crazy on that trail...
Did Top of the World a couple of Moab's ago, and it is fairly easy. I don't remember there being anything that a stock VX couldn't handle. I remember it being relatively short too (compaired to some all day VX runs of years past).
Hell's Revenge isn't too bad, but the first obsticle (mini Lion's Back) freaked the crud out of me so I would think a first timer would really wig out. I also seem to remember some long climbs that the VX can handle, but could be a little unsettling to newbies.
Just my two cents, but I'm up for anything.....almost.
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I was a noob and stock...I can't even recall that obstacle....maybe was just so intoxicated with the cool scenery and everything was new to me. Rubble trouble at the end of Hell's Revenge was the only part I recall as being that challenging for stock height. Didn't someone say they changed/re-routed the end of that trail and rubble trouble is no more?
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Heh, I don't think I have heard of anybody not getting lost, at least a little, leading FnT. Fortunately when I got lost I was able to discover and correct my error pretty quickly. But somebody GPS savvy along wouldn't hurt...
BTW do you have the 2nd edition? I believe all the waypoints have been updated and improved.